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casa umile

Sun, Feb 17, 2013 10:38 PM

All this wonderful information on anchors has inspired me to as the Forum for advice on a new windlass. The boat I'm renovating had an Ideal which corroded to death. I need to replace it.

The boat is a Huckins 46' sedan, Gross tonnage - 29, Net tonnage 20. We will be cruising the East coast and the Bahama's. Since my wife isn't as strong as Jill, the windlass will have to do all the work.

Thanks to one and all,

George

SUBITIO
Huckins 46 (on the hard, CT.)
Charleston, SC

All this wonderful information on anchors has inspired me to as the Forum for advice on a new windlass. The boat I'm renovating had an Ideal which corroded to death. I need to replace it. The boat is a Huckins 46' sedan, Gross tonnage - 29, Net tonnage 20. We will be cruising the East coast and the Bahama's. Since my wife isn't as strong as Jill, the windlass will have to do all the work. Thanks to one and all, George SUBITIO Huckins 46 (on the hard, CT.) Charleston, SC

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Al Thomason

Sun, Feb 17, 2013 11:12 PM

Hard to beat an Ideal one, esp with what is available today. I know Ideal
will do a 'rebuild' package for several of their units - even old ones. You
might try contacting them and see if yours qualifies. Might come out about
the same price as a lesser quality new brand. . . .

http://www.idealwindlass.com/Upgrades.htm

-al-

Viking Star
45' Monk Sr. / McQueen
mvVikingStar.blogspot.com

Hard to beat an Ideal one, esp with what is available today. I know Ideal will do a 'rebuild' package for several of their units - even old ones. You might try contacting them and see if yours qualifies. Might come out about the same price as a lesser quality new brand. . . . http://www.idealwindlass.com/Upgrades.htm -al- Viking Star 45' Monk Sr. / McQueen mvVikingStar.blogspot.com

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Ron Rogers

Sun, Feb 17, 2013 11:28 PM

You are lucky! The excellent Ideal Company is in East Greenwich, RI and
they will refurbish your winch regardless of age. Everyone on this list who
has dealt with them has raved about their service.

http://www.idealwindlass.com/

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:38 PM, casa umile casaumile@gmail.com wrote:

All this wonderful information on anchors has inspired me to as the Forum
for advice on a new windlass. The boat I'm renovating had an Ideal which
corroded to death. I need to replace it.

The boat is a Huckins 46' sedan, Gross tonnage - 29, Net tonnage 20. We
will be cruising the East coast and the Bahama's. Since my wife isn't as
strong as Jill, the windlass will have to do all the work.

Thanks to one and all,

George

You are lucky! The excellent Ideal Company is in East Greenwich, RI and they will refurbish your winch regardless of age. Everyone on this list who has dealt with them has raved about their service. http://www.idealwindlass.com/ On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:38 PM, casa umile <casaumile@gmail.com> wrote: > All this wonderful information on anchors has inspired me to as the Forum > for advice on a new windlass. The boat I'm renovating had an Ideal which > corroded to death. I need to replace it. > > The boat is a Huckins 46' sedan, Gross tonnage - 29, Net tonnage 20. We > will be cruising the East coast and the Bahama's. Since my wife isn't as > strong as Jill, the windlass will have to do all the work. > > Thanks to one and all, > > George >

GW

G W

Sun, Feb 17, 2013 11:38 PM

Thanks for the information, but I'm told by the yard that the whole inside
works is dead and can't be repaired. Sad, since I understand they are very
good. But it didn't have a chain gypsy either and that would add a
considerable amount to the repair/upgrade.

George

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Al Thomason thomason.al@gmail.com wrote:

Hard to beat an Ideal one, esp with what is available today. I know Ideal
will do a 'rebuild' package for several of their units - even old ones.
You
might try contacting them and see if yours qualifies. Might come out about
the same price as a lesser quality new brand. . . .

http://www.idealwindlass.com/Upgrades.htm

-al-

Viking Star
45' Monk Sr. / McQueen
mvVikingStar.blogspot.com

Thanks for the information, but I'm told by the yard that the whole inside works is dead and can't be repaired. Sad, since I understand they are very good. But it didn't have a chain gypsy either and that would add a considerable amount to the repair/upgrade. George On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Al Thomason <thomason.al@gmail.com> wrote: > Hard to beat an Ideal one, esp with what is available today. I know Ideal > will do a 'rebuild' package for several of their units - even old ones. > You > might try contacting them and see if yours qualifies. Might come out about > the same price as a lesser quality new brand. . . . > > http://www.idealwindlass.com/Upgrades.htm > > > -al- > > > Viking Star > 45' Monk Sr. / McQueen > mvVikingStar.blogspot.com > > >

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Ted or Sally

Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:15 AM

Get an opinion from Ideal, not your yard. Ideal can tebuild anything!
Ted G
On Feb 17, 2013 7:11 PM, "G W" casaumile@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for the information, but I'm told by the yard that the whole inside
works is dead and can't be repaired. Sad, since I understand they are very
good. But it didn't have a chain gypsy either and that would add a
considerable amount to the repair/upgrade.

George

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Al Thomason thomason.al@gmail.com
wrote:

Hard to beat an Ideal one, esp with what is available today. I know

Ideal

will do a 'rebuild' package for several of their units - even old ones.
You
might try contacting them and see if yours qualifies. Might come out

about

the same price as a lesser quality new brand. . . .

http://www.idealwindlass.com/Upgrades.htm

-al-

Viking Star
45' Monk Sr. / McQueen
mvVikingStar.blogspot.com

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Get an opinion from Ideal, not your yard. Ideal can tebuild anything! Ted G On Feb 17, 2013 7:11 PM, "G W" <casaumile@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the information, but I'm told by the yard that the whole inside > works is dead and can't be repaired. Sad, since I understand they are very > good. But it didn't have a chain gypsy either and that would add a > considerable amount to the repair/upgrade. > > George > > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Al Thomason <thomason.al@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hard to beat an Ideal one, esp with what is available today. I know > Ideal > > will do a 'rebuild' package for several of their units - even old ones. > > You > > might try contacting them and see if yours qualifies. Might come out > about > > the same price as a lesser quality new brand. . . . > > > > http://www.idealwindlass.com/Upgrades.htm > > > > > > -al- > > > > > > Viking Star > > 45' Monk Sr. / McQueen > > mvVikingStar.blogspot.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. >

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Ron Rogers

Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:31 AM

My God, yes. Consult Ideal, not the yard! Do you always seek biased
opinions? Ideal doesn't need your business; you need Ideal. They are
embarrassed that they have some windlasses that corroded and are ready to
replace those parts with SS and bronze. For them, replacing or rebuilding a
motor is routine.

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Ted or Sally tedorsally@gmail.com wrote:

Get an opinion from Ideal, not your yard. Ideal can tebuild anything!
Ted G
On Feb 17, 2013 7:11 PM, "G W" casaumile@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for the information, but I'm told by the yard that the whole

inside

works is dead and can't be repaired. Sad, since I understand they are

very

good. But it didn't have a chain gypsy either and that would add a
considerable amount to the repair/upgrade.

My God, yes. Consult Ideal, not the yard! Do you always seek biased opinions? Ideal doesn't need your business; you need Ideal. They are embarrassed that they have some windlasses that corroded and are ready to replace those parts with SS and bronze. For them, replacing or rebuilding a motor is routine. On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Ted or Sally <tedorsally@gmail.com> wrote: > *Get an opinion from Ideal, not your yard. Ideal can tebuild anything!* > Ted G > On Feb 17, 2013 7:11 PM, "G W" <casaumile@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks for the information, but I'm told by the yard that the whole > inside > > works is dead and can't be repaired. Sad, since I understand they are > very > > good. But it didn't have a chain gypsy either and that would add a > > considerable amount to the repair/upgrade. >

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Al Thomason

Mon, Feb 18, 2013 5:57 AM

Maybe what you need is a new yard. Even a rusted out 60 year old Ideal is
better than 90% of what is sold today. Your call, but myself I would ring
up Ideal Monday and talk to them, and if the yard gives you flack consider
that a very bad warning sign....

-al-

Viking Star

45' Monk Sr. / McQueen

mvVikingStar.blogspot.com

From: G W [mailto:casaumile@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 3:38 PM
To: Al Thomason
Cc: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: Windlass advice

Thanks for the information, but I'm told by the yard that the whole inside
works is dead and can't be repaired. Sad, since I understand they are very
good. But it didn't have a chain gypsy either and that would add a
considerable amount to the repair/upgrade.

George

Maybe what you need is a new yard. Even a rusted out 60 year old Ideal is better than 90% of what is sold today. Your call, but myself I would ring up Ideal Monday and talk to them, and if the yard gives you flack consider that a very bad warning sign.... -al- Viking Star 45' Monk Sr. / McQueen mvVikingStar.blogspot.com From: G W [mailto:casaumile@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 3:38 PM To: Al Thomason Cc: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com Subject: Re: Windlass advice Thanks for the information, but I'm told by the yard that the whole inside works is dead and can't be repaired. Sad, since I understand they are very good. But it didn't have a chain gypsy either and that would add a considerable amount to the repair/upgrade. George

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Paige

Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:01 AM

On 18/02/2013 05:57, Al Thomason wrote:

Even a rusted out 60 year old Ideal is
better than 90% of what is sold today.

Taken from the Ideal Windlass Company's web site:

IDEAL will rebuild any of its equipment. Nearly all old windlasses sent
to IDEAL can be rebuilt and this is a cost effective alternative to
purchasing a new unit. We frequently rebuild windlasses from the 1940's
and 1950's. See some amazing examples!!!

To have your windlass rebuilt:

Remove it from the boat.
Send it to to the address below with a note inside the box including
your name, address and phone number and what you would like done.

We will call you with an estimate before proceeding.
Repairs generally take 1-2 weeks.

Re-chroming of above deck parts is also available.

http://www.idealwindlass.com/faq.htm

P.

On 18/02/2013 05:57, Al Thomason wrote: > Even a rusted out 60 year old Ideal is > better than 90% of what is sold today. Taken from the Ideal Windlass Company's web site: IDEAL will rebuild any of its equipment. Nearly all old windlasses sent to IDEAL can be rebuilt and this is a cost effective alternative to purchasing a new unit. We frequently rebuild windlasses from the 1940's and 1950's. See some amazing examples!!! To have your windlass rebuilt: Remove it from the boat. Send it to to the address below with a note inside the box including your name, address and phone number and what you would like done. * We will call you with an estimate before proceeding. * Repairs generally take 1-2 weeks. Re-chroming of above deck parts is also available. http://www.idealwindlass.com/faq.htm P.

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Scott Welch

Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:42 PM

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:38 PM, G W casaumile@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for the information, but I'm told by the yard that the whole inside
works is dead and can't be repaired.

Having had my Ideal apart more than once, I can say that this is
horsepucky. The Ideals have about 10 moving parts, all of which can be
replaced. Call Ideal, talk to The Man (grandson of the founder, I think),
he'll set you up. You can also go visit their shop, it's a cool place.

Scott
Island Eagle

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:38 PM, G W <casaumile@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the information, but I'm told by the yard that the whole inside > works is dead and can't be repaired. > Having had my Ideal apart more than once, I can say that this is horsepucky. The Ideals have about 10 moving parts, all of which can be replaced. Call Ideal, talk to The Man (grandson of the founder, I think), he'll set you up. You can also go visit their shop, it's a cool place. Scott Island Eagle

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Alec McLocklin (amclockl)

Thu, Feb 21, 2013 10:23 PM

The yard guy is full of bull. I took my Ideal windless to the Ideal shop in RI. Was driving to Boston so I dropped by. The owner took me through the shop. A True machine shop!
My boat is from 1973. He took a look at the serial number on the windless, opened a filing cabinet and pulled out the original bill of sale!

The windless was completely seized. He took 2 days to rebuild to brand new, what a piece of machinery.

Alec
GB 49 Alaskan

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 6:38 PM
To: Al Thomason
Cc: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: T&T: Windlass advice

Thanks for the information, but I'm told by the yard that the whole inside works is dead and can't be repaired. Sad, since I understand they are very good. But it didn't have a chain gypsy either and that would add a considerable amount to the repair/upgrade.

George

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Al Thomason thomason.al@gmail.com wrote:

Hard to beat an Ideal one, esp with what is available today. I know
Ideal will do a 'rebuild' package for several of their units - even old ones.
You
might try contacting them and see if yours qualifies. Might come out
about the same price as a lesser quality new brand. . . .

http://www.idealwindlass.com/Upgrades.htm

-al-

Viking Star
45' Monk Sr. / McQueen
mvVikingStar.blogspot.com

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The yard guy is full of bull. I took my Ideal windless to the Ideal shop in RI. Was driving to Boston so I dropped by. The owner took me through the shop. A True machine shop! My boat is from 1973. He took a look at the serial number on the windless, opened a filing cabinet and pulled out the original bill of sale! The windless was completely seized. He took 2 days to rebuild to brand new, what a piece of machinery. Alec GB 49 Alaskan -----Original Message----- From: Trawlers-and-Trawlering [mailto:trawlers-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of G W Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 6:38 PM To: Al Thomason Cc: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com Subject: Re: T&T: Windlass advice Thanks for the information, but I'm told by the yard that the whole inside works is dead and can't be repaired. Sad, since I understand they are very good. But it didn't have a chain gypsy either and that would add a considerable amount to the repair/upgrade. George On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Al Thomason <thomason.al@gmail.com> wrote: > Hard to beat an Ideal one, esp with what is available today. I know > Ideal will do a 'rebuild' package for several of their units - even old ones. > You > might try contacting them and see if yours qualifies. Might come out > about the same price as a lesser quality new brand. . . . > > http://www.idealwindlass.com/Upgrades.htm > > > -al- > > > Viking Star > 45' Monk Sr. / McQueen > mvVikingStar.blogspot.com > > > _______________________________________________ http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.