Friends, I DO NOT want to start another discussion of which is the best anchor, but I would appreciate hearing of experiences , pro and con, specifically regarding the Rocna in the Chesapeake. I am considering a Rocna model 55 for my Carver 560 (all chain rode). I have had good experience there in the past with a Fortress (on a different, smaller boat) but now am considering the Rocna. Thanks.

We have both the Fortress and Rocna. We since getting the Rocna we only use it (33kg all chain rode over sized for our boat) as our primary anchor and we have never had it drag (now I'm cursed) in our travel in various bottoms. Very very pleased. Super Max is also a great anchor and the Manson Supreme also. Get as big as your windlass will tolerate. Joe Carolyn Ann GH N-37 On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Joe <joroy40@hotmail.com> wrote: > Friends, I DO NOT want to start another discussion of which is the best > anchor, but I would appreciate hearing of experiences , pro and con, > specifically regarding the Rocna in the Chesapeake. I am considering a > Rocna model 55 for my Carver 560 (all chain rode). I have had good > experience there in the past with a Fortress (on a different, smaller > boat) but now am considering the Rocna. Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > -- Joe Pica Carolyn Ann GH N-37 MTOA #3813, AGLCA #5485 http://carolynann-n37.blogspot.com/

Excellent advise from Joe Pica. I used a SuperMax for years and the Loop which put it in a wide variety of bottoms. I will also note that we prefer to anchor out rather than marinas. Never used the Rocna but always hear good things about it. But that is what you will hear from most boaters- they love the anchor they have chosen. Rarely will you find a guy who says he spend hundreds of dollars on a big new anchor and it was an awful mistake. The problem with any anchor question is there are hidden variables to the questions about anchors. Primarily, what is hidden is the skill of the skipper and his anchoring experience. Some guys regularly use lots of chain and others don't. Many 40ft trawlers use 5/16" chain whereas we used 3/8" (150lbs for each 100ft deployed). Does the skipper REGULARLY pull in his anchor when he deploys? I regularly pulled back on my anchor set at 1100 RPM (single screw) to verify it was set AND that the bottom was sufficient. (Had several instances where the bottom was so soft it would not hold when backed on it). My minimum set was 60ft of 3/8" chain no matter how shallow the water, then I went longer in deeper water as needed. (My philosophy was I owned all that chain and had a nice big winch to haul it in and out, so why not utilize it? It does nothing for you if it stays in the boat). Has the skipper used that anchor more than occasionally in "strong winds"? Or, did he only anchor in fair weather. Was the skipper a Marina-Marina boater that regularly frequented marinas and only occasionally anchored? So in order to evaluate the anchor, you really need to normalize the whole anchoring process....its not just the anchor that makes it hold. R, -----Original Message----- From: Great-Loop [mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Pica Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:22 PM To: Joe Cc: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com Subject: Re: GL: Rocna Performance in Chesapeake Mud We have both the Fortress and Rocna. We since getting the Rocna we only use it (33kg all chain rode over sized for our boat) as our primary anchor and we have never had it drag (now I'm cursed) in our travel in various bottoms. Very very pleased. Super Max is also a great anchor and the Manson Supreme also. Get as big as your windlass will tolerate. Joe Carolyn Ann GH N-37

I'm glad that the one poster is having success with a Delta. I also had a 55lb delta all chain rode however I had many occasions when it would not set, had difficulty setting and/or it would drag. Once set it was a bear to recover. We traveled our first great loop with a friend on an identical boat that was using Rocna 33kg and it set quickly and recovered much more easily once set then did our Delta. After the first loop experience anchoring side by side with our friend I went to the Rocna 33 and it has performed wonderfully for our second loop and all our western river cruising and Chesapeake Bay gunkholing to include Oxford and some other pea soup locations. That said the Rocna is 20+ lbs heavier than the Delta and I did upgrade to 3/8th" chain from 5/16ths". I was so amazed at the difference when we cruised and anchored side by side with our friend. This was as close to a controlled test as possible ... given the difference in weight. Joe On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Ralph Yost <ralph@alphacompservices.com>wrote: > > Excellent advise from Joe Pica. I used a SuperMax for years and the Loop > which put it in a wide variety of bottoms. I will also note that we prefer > to anchor out rather than marinas. > Never used the Rocna but always hear good things about it. But that is what > you will hear from most boaters- they love the anchor they have chosen. > Rarely will you find a guy who says he spend hundreds of dollars on a big > new anchor and it was an awful mistake. > > The problem with any anchor question is there are hidden variables to the > questions about anchors. Primarily, what is hidden is the skill of the > skipper and his anchoring experience. > Some guys regularly use lots of chain and others don't. Many 40ft trawlers > use 5/16" chain whereas we used 3/8" (150lbs for each 100ft deployed). > Does the skipper REGULARLY pull in his anchor when he deploys? I regularly > pulled back on my anchor set at 1100 RPM (single screw) to verify it was > set > AND that the bottom was sufficient. (Had several instances where the bottom > was so soft it would not hold when backed on it). My minimum set was 60ft > of > 3/8" chain no matter how shallow the water, then I went longer in deeper > water as needed. > (My philosophy was I owned all that chain and had a nice big winch to haul > it in and out, so why not utilize it? It does nothing for you if it stays > in > the boat). > > Has the skipper used that anchor more than occasionally in "strong winds"? > Or, did he only anchor in fair weather. > Was the skipper a Marina-Marina boater that regularly frequented marinas > and > only occasionally anchored? > > So in order to evaluate the anchor, you really need to normalize the whole > anchoring process....its not just the anchor that makes it hold. > > R, > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Great-Loop [mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On > Behalf > Of Joseph Pica > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:22 PM > To: Joe > Cc: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com > Subject: Re: GL: Rocna Performance in Chesapeake Mud > > We have both the Fortress and Rocna. We since getting the Rocna we only use > it (33kg all chain rode over sized for our boat) as our primary anchor and > we have never had it drag (now I'm cursed) in our travel in various > bottoms. > Very very pleased. Super Max is also a great anchor and the Manson Supreme > also. Get as big as your windlass will tolerate. > > Joe > Carolyn Ann GH N-37 > > > -- Joe Pica Carolyn Ann GH N-37 MTOA #3813, AGLCA #5485 http://carolynann-n37.blogspot.com/