Truly, I do hope all this helps! Thanks, Bill, for your patience. >>>>>> I find that in most of these discussions, I usually learn something new. There are so many different skippers and captains out there, with so many different boats, in so many different conditions, with so many different experiences.....that there invariably different techniques and modifications to consider.....and people learn in different ways. I’ve often said that experience is the best teacher, but education certainly helps cut down or soften those bad experiences! Thanks.... TWINS Stay safe, and enjoy every sandwich!