Re: [PCW] Wind Turbine cat (was Hybrid powercats)

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brian eiland
Wed, Dec 19, 2007 1:04 AM

How about a vertical axis wind turbine that would accept air flow from ANY
direction without needing to align itself??
Brian

Back in the mid 70's the USF had a conference on sail assisted
commercial craft. Dick Newick, Myself and 200 others attended with a
variety of papers, models and some full size working versions.

One craft from the University Engineering Students was a windmill on a
cat, driving a prop. Would also go directly to weather.

Only thing wrong was it was stepped at the normal mast step (used a
sailing cat) and that blade was close to the deck.

This was straight mechanical no electric motors or batteries.

There are lots of options on motorsailor /power multihulls out there
besides the huge solar panels.

len

Malcolm Tennant wrote:

I must say that I agree with Pat reischmann. What is wrong with the normal

catamaran as a motor sailer?

However I might deviate slightly from that contention and fit a rig to one

of

our CS power cat designs. The only real advantages of this would occur if

you

wanted to go a bit faster than the sail boat hull was capable of.

If you are still determined to "boldly go where no man has gone before" you

could go where we went in 1992 and fit a wind turbine driving in the water

propellers [see web site- the "Revolution"]. However today I would go and

buy

a reasonably substantial "off the shelf" wind turbine electric generator and

fit it to one of our CS hulled stock power cat designs. This would drive a

couple of electric motors in the hulls.

Incidentally, despite what several physicists have to say on the internet,

the

Revolution would proceed directly to windward.

Regards,

Malcolm Tennant.

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PO Box 60513, Titirangi.
Waitakere 0642
NEW ZEALAND
Ph: +64 9 817 1988
e-mail: malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz
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How about a vertical axis wind turbine that would accept air flow from ANY direction without needing to align itself?? Brian Back in the mid 70's the USF had a conference on sail assisted commercial craft. Dick Newick, Myself and 200 others attended with a variety of papers, models and some full size working versions. One craft from the University Engineering Students was a windmill on a cat, driving a prop. Would also go directly to weather. Only thing wrong was it was stepped at the normal mast step (used a sailing cat) and that blade was close to the deck. This was straight mechanical no electric motors or batteries. There are lots of options on motorsailor /power multihulls out there besides the huge solar panels. len Malcolm Tennant wrote: >I must say that I agree with Pat reischmann. What is wrong with the normal >catamaran as a motor sailer? > >However I might deviate slightly from that contention and fit a rig to one of >our CS power cat designs. The only real advantages of this would occur if you >wanted to go a bit faster than the sail boat hull was capable of. > >If you are still determined to "boldly go where no man has gone before" you >could go where we went in 1992 and fit a wind turbine driving in the water >propellers [see web site- the "Revolution"]. However today I would go and buy >a reasonably substantial "off the shelf" wind turbine electric generator and >fit it to one of our CS hulled stock power cat designs. This would drive a >couple of electric motors in the hulls. > >Incidentally, despite what several physicists have to say on the internet, the >Revolution would proceed directly to windward. > >Regards, > >Malcolm Tennant. > >MALCOLM TENNANT MULTIHULL DESIGN LTD >PO Box 60513, Titirangi. >Waitakere 0642 >NEW ZEALAND >Ph: +64 9 817 1988 >e-mail: malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz >www.tennantdesign.co.nz >www.catdesigners.com >_______________________________________________ >Power-Catamaran Mailing List > > > > -- Live Long and Prosper Capt. Len Susman, retired trikini23@trikini.com After Dec. 13,2007 Email : trikini2007@comcast.net What's New http://www.trikini.com/whatn.htm _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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Captnlen
Wed, Dec 19, 2007 1:19 AM

Fletner Rotor ?  Cousteau used that on one of his vessels and that hull
form was very hybrid cross between cat/tri and sea sled if I remember.

brian eiland wrote:

How about a vertical axis wind turbine that would accept air flow from ANY
direction without needing to align itself??
Brian

Back in the mid 70's the USF had a conference on sail assisted
commercial craft. Dick Newick, Myself and 200 others attended with a
variety of papers, models and some full size working versions.

One craft from the University Engineering Students was a windmill on a
cat, driving a prop. Would also go directly to weather.

Only thing wrong was it was stepped at the normal mast step (used a
sailing cat) and that blade was close to the deck.

This was straight mechanical no electric motors or batteries.

There are lots of options on motorsailor /power multihulls out there
besides the huge solar panels.

len

Malcolm Tennant wrote:

I must say that I agree with Pat reischmann. What is wrong with the normal

catamaran as a motor sailer?

However I might deviate slightly from that contention and fit a rig to one

of

our CS power cat designs. The only real advantages of this would occur if

you

wanted to go a bit faster than the sail boat hull was capable of.

If you are still determined to "boldly go where no man has gone before" you

could go where we went in 1992 and fit a wind turbine driving in the water

propellers [see web site- the "Revolution"]. However today I would go and

buy

a reasonably substantial "off the shelf" wind turbine electric generator and

fit it to one of our CS hulled stock power cat designs. This would drive a

couple of electric motors in the hulls.

Incidentally, despite what several physicists have to say on the internet,

the

Revolution would proceed directly to windward.

Regards,

Malcolm Tennant.

MALCOLM TENNANT MULTIHULL DESIGN LTD
PO Box 60513, Titirangi.
Waitakere 0642
NEW ZEALAND
Ph: +64 9 817 1988
e-mail: malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz
www.tennantdesign.co.nz
www.catdesigners.com


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Fletner Rotor ? Cousteau used that on one of his vessels and that hull form was very hybrid cross between cat/tri and sea sled if I remember. brian eiland wrote: >How about a vertical axis wind turbine that would accept air flow from ANY >direction without needing to align itself?? >Brian > > > > > Back in the mid 70's the USF had a conference on sail assisted >commercial craft. Dick Newick, Myself and 200 others attended with a >variety of papers, models and some full size working versions. > >One craft from the University Engineering Students was a windmill on a >cat, driving a prop. Would also go directly to weather. > >Only thing wrong was it was stepped at the normal mast step (used a >sailing cat) and that blade was close to the deck. > >This was straight mechanical no electric motors or batteries. > >There are lots of options on motorsailor /power multihulls out there >besides the huge solar panels. > >len > >Malcolm Tennant wrote: > > > >>I must say that I agree with Pat reischmann. What is wrong with the normal >> >> > > > >>catamaran as a motor sailer? >> >>However I might deviate slightly from that contention and fit a rig to one >> >> >of > > > >>our CS power cat designs. The only real advantages of this would occur if >> >> >you > > > >>wanted to go a bit faster than the sail boat hull was capable of. >> >>If you are still determined to "boldly go where no man has gone before" you >> >> > > > >>could go where we went in 1992 and fit a wind turbine driving in the water >> >> > > > >>propellers [see web site- the "Revolution"]. However today I would go and >> >> >buy > > > >>a reasonably substantial "off the shelf" wind turbine electric generator and >> >> > > > >>fit it to one of our CS hulled stock power cat designs. This would drive a >> >> > > > >>couple of electric motors in the hulls. >> >>Incidentally, despite what several physicists have to say on the internet, >> >> >the > > >>Revolution would proceed directly to windward. >> >>Regards, >> >>Malcolm Tennant. >> >>MALCOLM TENNANT MULTIHULL DESIGN LTD >>PO Box 60513, Titirangi. >>Waitakere 0642 >>NEW ZEALAND >>Ph: +64 9 817 1988 >>e-mail: malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz >>www.tennantdesign.co.nz >>www.catdesigners.com >>_______________________________________________ >>Power-Catamaran Mailing List >> >> >> >> >> >> > >-- >Live Long and Prosper >Capt. Len Susman, retired >trikini23@trikini.com >After Dec. 13,2007 >Email : trikini2007@comcast.net >What's New >http://www.trikini.com/whatn.htm >_______________________________________________ >Power-Catamaran Mailing List >_______________________________________________ >Power-Catamaran Mailing List > > > > -- Live Long and Prosper Capt. Len Susman, retired trikini23@trikini.com After Dec. 13,2007 Email : trikini2007@comcast.net What's New http://www.trikini.com/whatn.htm