Power cats under 30 feet and trailerability

GK
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Tue, Jun 7, 2005 12:04 PM

John Grabowski  wrote:
Here is the site for a 30 foot trailerable cat made in Poland, I
believe.  I have read several  reviews that seemed pretty favorable but
do not know anything else about it.  If anyone has hands on experience
i would be interested.
http://www.motorcat.com/

Yes, the Motorcat 30 does indeed look interesting, As a matter of
fact, when I visit my native Latvia in September, I'll be stopping
over in Poland for a closer look at the boat, the people behind it,
and the factory.

Regarding trailerability of the Motorcat, because of its beam of 9.5
feet, I believe you'd be needing wide-load permits in North America.

A friend, Mike Schooley, has researched trailerability in depth
because of his plans to build a trailerable passagemaker of about 50
feet in length, monohulled. Below is a summary of his findings.

--Georgs

If you want to stay with the legal limits then most states have an 8.5' beam
limit and legal height is 13.5' in most states and 14' is most of the rest.

If you looking at getting a wide load permit, then it depends. I draw the
line where the transit costs start to escalate, which I believe is when you
need to hire a pilot car. If you stay off narrow 2 lane roads then you can
go to 12' beam in most states (11' 11" in Maine). On height you can go to
16", but I would stay within the legal height if possible because your
liability goes up if you exceed the legal height limit. In addition routing
gets very complicated very fast. Maximum length is about 60' to 65' but it
is really a maneuverability issue. Most semi-trailers are 53' so once you go
past that you are is uncharted territory. OTOH the main factor for
maneuverability is wheel base or the distance from the king pin to the
center trailer axle, which determines the turning radius. Since boat trailer
axles are further forward than semi-trailer axles you can go to about 65'
and have the same turning radius. Maximum weight is about 80,000 lbs.

As you can see the beam is the main limiting factor followed by height.
Length and weight are not really an issue.

>John Grabowski wrote: >Here is the site for a 30 foot trailerable cat made in Poland, I >believe. I have read several reviews that seemed pretty favorable but >do not know anything else about it. If anyone has hands on experience >i would be interested. >http://www.motorcat.com/ Yes, the Motorcat 30 does indeed look interesting, As a matter of fact, when I visit my native Latvia in September, I'll be stopping over in Poland for a closer look at the boat, the people behind it, and the factory. Regarding trailerability of the Motorcat, because of its beam of 9.5 feet, I believe you'd be needing wide-load permits in North America. A friend, Mike Schooley, has researched trailerability in depth because of his plans to build a trailerable passagemaker of about 50 feet in length, monohulled. Below is a summary of his findings. --Georgs If you want to stay with the legal limits then most states have an 8.5' beam limit and legal height is 13.5' in most states and 14' is most of the rest. If you looking at getting a wide load permit, then it depends. I draw the line where the transit costs start to escalate, which I believe is when you need to hire a pilot car. If you stay off narrow 2 lane roads then you can go to 12' beam in most states (11' 11" in Maine). On height you can go to 16", but I would stay within the legal height if possible because your liability goes up if you exceed the legal height limit. In addition routing gets very complicated very fast. Maximum length is about 60' to 65' but it is really a maneuverability issue. Most semi-trailers are 53' so once you go past that you are is uncharted territory. OTOH the main factor for maneuverability is wheel base or the distance from the king pin to the center trailer axle, which determines the turning radius. Since boat trailer axles are further forward than semi-trailer axles you can go to about 65' and have the same turning radius. Maximum weight is about 80,000 lbs. As you can see the beam is the main limiting factor followed by height. Length and weight are not really an issue.
JS
JKM SErvice
Tue, Jun 7, 2005 12:14 PM

Hello John

If You would like to know more about MC30 please contact with me at :
motorcat@tlen.pl

I try to send You directly email but it has been stoped by anty spam system
on Your server

Regards

Kris

PS

You second name sounds polish as well

-----Original Message-----
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Kolesnikovs
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:05 PM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: [PCW] Power cats under 30 feet and trailerability

John Grabowski  wrote:

Here is the site for a 30 foot trailerable cat made in Poland, I

believe.  I have read several  reviews that seemed pretty favorable but

do not know anything else about it.  If anyone has hands on experience

i would be interested.

http://www.motorcat.com/

Yes, the Motorcat 30 does indeed look interesting, As a matter of fact, when
I visit my native Latvia in September, I'll be stopping over in Poland for a
closer look at the boat, the people behind it, and the factory.

Regarding trailerability of the Motorcat, because of its beam of 9.5 feet, I
believe you'd be needing wide-load permits in North America.

A friend, Mike Schooley, has researched trailerability in depth because of
his plans to build a trailerable passagemaker of about 50 feet in length,
monohulled. Below is a summary of his findings.

--Georgs

If you want to stay with the legal limits then most states have an 8.5' beam
limit and legal height is 13.5' in most states and 14' is most of the rest.

If you looking at getting a wide load permit, then it depends. I draw the
line where the transit costs start to escalate, which I believe is when you
need to hire a pilot car. If you stay off narrow 2 lane roads then you can
go to 12' beam in most states (11' 11" in Maine). On height you can go to
16", but I would stay within the legal height if possible because your
liability goes up if you exceed the legal height limit. In addition routing
gets very complicated very fast. Maximum length is about 60' to 65' but it
is really a maneuverability issue. Most semi-trailers are 53' so once you go
past that you are is uncharted territory. OTOH the main factor for
maneuverability is wheel base or the distance from the king pin to the
center trailer axle, which determines the turning radius. Since boat trailer
axles are further forward than semi-trailer axles you can go to about 65'
and have the same turning radius. Maximum weight is about 80,000 lbs.

As you can see the beam is the main limiting factor followed by height.

Length and weight are not really an issue.

Hello John If You would like to know more about MC30 please contact with me at : motorcat@tlen.pl I try to send You directly email but it has been stoped by anty spam system on Your server Regards Kris PS You second name sounds polish as well -----Original Message----- From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Georgs Kolesnikovs Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:05 PM To: Power Catamaran List Subject: [PCW] Power cats under 30 feet and trailerability John Grabowski wrote: Here is the site for a 30 foot trailerable cat made in Poland, I believe. I have read several reviews that seemed pretty favorable but do not know anything else about it. If anyone has hands on experience i would be interested. http://www.motorcat.com/ Yes, the Motorcat 30 does indeed look interesting, As a matter of fact, when I visit my native Latvia in September, I'll be stopping over in Poland for a closer look at the boat, the people behind it, and the factory. Regarding trailerability of the Motorcat, because of its beam of 9.5 feet, I believe you'd be needing wide-load permits in North America. A friend, Mike Schooley, has researched trailerability in depth because of his plans to build a trailerable passagemaker of about 50 feet in length, monohulled. Below is a summary of his findings. --Georgs If you want to stay with the legal limits then most states have an 8.5' beam limit and legal height is 13.5' in most states and 14' is most of the rest. If you looking at getting a wide load permit, then it depends. I draw the line where the transit costs start to escalate, which I believe is when you need to hire a pilot car. If you stay off narrow 2 lane roads then you can go to 12' beam in most states (11' 11" in Maine). On height you can go to 16", but I would stay within the legal height if possible because your liability goes up if you exceed the legal height limit. In addition routing gets very complicated very fast. Maximum length is about 60' to 65' but it is really a maneuverability issue. Most semi-trailers are 53' so once you go past that you are is uncharted territory. OTOH the main factor for maneuverability is wheel base or the distance from the king pin to the center trailer axle, which determines the turning radius. Since boat trailer axles are further forward than semi-trailer axles you can go to about 65' and have the same turning radius. Maximum weight is about 80,000 lbs. As you can see the beam is the main limiting factor followed by height. Length and weight are not really an issue.