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GPSDO loss of satellite question

M
mscott@northernradar.com
Mon, May 13, 2013 4:03 PM

I  have a question about if there is a case where the GPS satellite is not
available to the GPSDO board.

I understand that with the GPSDO board I would be able to put two receivers
in two separate locations and they would both get the same timing signal.
If the GPSDO modules were to lose the satellite signal for some reason would
they still be able to provide a 10 MHz reference?  Or is that if you don't
have a satellite signal the receivers just fallback to the onboard internal
clock.

I guess what I'm asking is what exactly happens with the timing if you have
a GPSDO module connected and it loses or is not receiving a signal from the
satellites?

Mike

I have a question about if there is a case where the GPS satellite is not available to the GPSDO board. I understand that with the GPSDO board I would be able to put two receivers in two separate locations and they would both get the same timing signal. If the GPSDO modules were to lose the satellite signal for some reason would they still be able to provide a 10 MHz reference? Or is that if you don't have a satellite signal the receivers just fallback to the onboard internal clock. I guess what I'm asking is what exactly happens with the timing if you have a GPSDO module connected and it loses or is not receiving a signal from the satellites? Mike
MD
Marcus D. Leech
Mon, May 13, 2013 4:17 PM

I  have a question about if there is a case where the GPS satellite is
not available to the GPSDO board.

I understand that with the GPSDO board I would be able to put two
receivers in two separate locations and they would both get the same
timing signal. If the GPSDO modules were to lose the satellite signal
for some reason would they still be able to provide a 10 MHz
reference?  Or is that if you don't have a satellite signal the
receivers just fallback to the onboard internal clock.

I guess what I'm asking is what exactly happens with the timing if you
have a GPSDO module connected and it loses or is not receiving a
signal from the satellites?

Mike

The way GPSDOs work is that there's an internal clock, usually of quite
high quality.  The GPS satellite signals are used to provide estimates of
timing slip between the on-board clock and the satellites.  Assuming
that the on-board clock on the GPSDO has recently been "in synch", it will
slowly drift out-of-synch according to it's "natural" proclivities as
a piezoelectric crystal oscillator of reasonably high quality.  Once the
satellites
come back, it will be caused to drift back into synchronization with
the satellites.

--
Marcus Leech
Principal Investigator
Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium
http://www.sbrac.org

> I have a question about if there is a case where the GPS satellite is > not available to the GPSDO board. > > I understand that with the GPSDO board I would be able to put two > receivers in two separate locations and they would both get the same > timing signal. If the GPSDO modules were to lose the satellite signal > for some reason would they still be able to provide a 10 MHz > reference? Or is that if you don't have a satellite signal the > receivers just fallback to the onboard internal clock. > > I guess what I'm asking is what exactly happens with the timing if you > have a GPSDO module connected and it loses or is not receiving a > signal from the satellites? > > Mike > > The way GPSDOs work is that there's an internal clock, usually of quite high quality. The GPS satellite signals are used to provide estimates of timing slip between the on-board clock and the satellites. Assuming that the on-board clock on the GPSDO has recently been "in synch", it will slowly drift out-of-synch according to it's "natural" proclivities as a piezoelectric crystal oscillator of reasonably high quality. Once the satellites come back, it will be caused to drift back into synchronization with the satellites. > > -- Marcus Leech Principal Investigator Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium http://www.sbrac.org