S
Scott
Tue, Oct 27, 2009 10:59 PM
You are correct that a true military spec laptop, reasonably priced
could be a positive thing for boaters.
However given the degree of problems I have had with a variety of
"military spec" electronics and a variety of manufacturer's laptops I am
not ready to substitute.
I hope the Dell is tougher than my Panasonic "Toughbook" whose screen
did not survive shipment by FedEx of which neither Panasonic, Amuras
(the online retailer), FedEx or American Express (purchased through)
will take responsibility for so I'm out $3500.
Thank you for your post. Should you or another member decide to go with
the Dell I would be very interested in hearing about your experience
with it.
Scott Clark
PS Sorry for venting about the "ToughBook", still bugs the hell out of
me.
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Meader
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:00 PM
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
Dell on Tuesday unveiled a 12.1-inch rugged convertible tablet PC, the
Latitude XT2 XFR, the first multitouch tablet PC that can withstand
ballistic
shock, extreme temperatures, dust, sand and moisture.
The marine electronics industry may not like this. A military spec
windows pc
that can stand up to harsh inviroments ( salt water & moisture ) for
retail
$3600. This is a portable laptop that can be taken with you off the
boat.
compare this against just a 12 inch screen for a boat, that does not
include a
computer. This should be a positive thing for boaters.
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
You are correct that a true military spec laptop, reasonably priced
could be a positive thing for boaters.
However given the degree of problems I have had with a variety of
"military spec" electronics and a variety of manufacturer's laptops I am
not ready to substitute.
I hope the Dell is tougher than my Panasonic "Toughbook" whose screen
did not survive shipment by FedEx of which neither Panasonic, Amuras
(the online retailer), FedEx or American Express (purchased through)
will take responsibility for so I'm out $3500.
Thank you for your post. Should you or another member decide to go with
the Dell I would be very interested in hearing about your experience
with it.
Scott Clark
PS Sorry for venting about the "ToughBook", still bugs the hell out of
me.
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Meader
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:00 PM
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
Dell on Tuesday unveiled a 12.1-inch rugged convertible tablet PC, the
Latitude XT2 XFR, the first multitouch tablet PC that can withstand
ballistic
shock, extreme temperatures, dust, sand and moisture.
The marine electronics industry may not like this. A military spec
windows pc
that can stand up to harsh inviroments ( salt water & moisture ) for
retail
$3600. This is a portable laptop that can be taken with you off the
boat.
compare this against just a 12 inch screen for a boat, that does not
include a
computer. This should be a positive thing for boaters.
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
_______________________________________________
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
GS
Greg Schoenberg
Wed, Oct 28, 2009 12:06 AM
I've had good luck with older Thinkpad computers. I just buy an older model
$100-$200 and use it on the boat. It's survived numerous coast guard aux.
patrols and so forth.
-Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott
To: Power Catamaran List
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
You are correct that a true military spec laptop, reasonably priced
could be a positive thing for boaters.
However given the degree of problems I have had with a variety of
"military spec" electronics and a variety of manufacturer's laptops I am
not ready to substitute.
I hope the Dell is tougher than my Panasonic "Toughbook" whose screen
did not survive shipment by FedEx of which neither Panasonic, Amuras
(the online retailer), FedEx or American Express (purchased through)
will take responsibility for so I'm out $3500.
Thank you for your post. Should you or another member decide to go with
the Dell I would be very interested in hearing about your experience
with it.
Scott Clark
PS Sorry for venting about the "ToughBook", still bugs the hell out of
me.
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Meader
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:00 PM
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
Dell on Tuesday unveiled a 12.1-inch rugged convertible tablet PC, the
Latitude XT2 XFR, the first multitouch tablet PC that can withstand
ballistic
shock, extreme temperatures, dust, sand and moisture.
The marine electronics industry may not like this. A military spec
windows pc
that can stand up to harsh inviroments ( salt water & moisture ) for
retail
$3600. This is a portable laptop that can be taken with you off the
boat.
compare this against just a 12 inch screen for a boat, that does not
include a
computer. This should be a positive thing for boaters.
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
I've had good luck with older Thinkpad computers. I just buy an older model
$100-$200 and use it on the boat. It's survived numerous coast guard aux.
patrols and so forth.
-Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott
To: Power Catamaran List
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
You are correct that a true military spec laptop, reasonably priced
could be a positive thing for boaters.
However given the degree of problems I have had with a variety of
"military spec" electronics and a variety of manufacturer's laptops I am
not ready to substitute.
I hope the Dell is tougher than my Panasonic "Toughbook" whose screen
did not survive shipment by FedEx of which neither Panasonic, Amuras
(the online retailer), FedEx or American Express (purchased through)
will take responsibility for so I'm out $3500.
Thank you for your post. Should you or another member decide to go with
the Dell I would be very interested in hearing about your experience
with it.
Scott Clark
PS Sorry for venting about the "ToughBook", still bugs the hell out of
me.
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Meader
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:00 PM
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
Dell on Tuesday unveiled a 12.1-inch rugged convertible tablet PC, the
Latitude XT2 XFR, the first multitouch tablet PC that can withstand
ballistic
shock, extreme temperatures, dust, sand and moisture.
The marine electronics industry may not like this. A military spec
windows pc
that can stand up to harsh inviroments ( salt water & moisture ) for
retail
$3600. This is a portable laptop that can be taken with you off the
boat.
compare this against just a 12 inch screen for a boat, that does not
include a
computer. This should be a positive thing for boaters.
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
_______________________________________________
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
_______________________________________________
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
JM
Jim Meader
Wed, Oct 28, 2009 3:32 AM
Your situation sucks, but the concept is still valid - a weather proof
computer with a 12 inch screen capable of handling many on board software
programs for the price of a 12 inch screen is still good for boaters.
Competition of this type with today's overall market should see some new and
interesting opportunities.
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com on behalf of Scott
Sent: Tue 10/27/2009 2:59 PM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
You are correct that a true military spec laptop, reasonably priced
could be a positive thing for boaters.
However given the degree of problems I have had with a variety of
"military spec" electronics and a variety of manufacturer's laptops I am
not ready to substitute.
I hope the Dell is tougher than my Panasonic "Toughbook" whose screen
did not survive shipment by FedEx of which neither Panasonic, Amuras
(the online retailer), FedEx or American Express (purchased through)
will take responsibility for so I'm out $3500.
Thank you for your post. Should you or another member decide to go with
the Dell I would be very interested in hearing about your experience
with it.
Scott Clark
PS Sorry for venting about the "ToughBook", still bugs the hell out of
me.
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Meader
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:00 PM
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
Dell on Tuesday unveiled a 12.1-inch rugged convertible tablet PC, the
Latitude XT2 XFR, the first multitouch tablet PC that can withstand
ballistic
shock, extreme temperatures, dust, sand and moisture.
The marine electronics industry may not like this. A military spec
windows pc
that can stand up to harsh inviroments ( salt water & moisture ) for
retail
$3600. This is a portable laptop that can be taken with you off the
boat.
compare this against just a 12 inch screen for a boat, that does not
include a
computer. This should be a positive thing for boaters.
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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Your situation sucks, but the concept is still valid - a weather proof
computer with a 12 inch screen capable of handling many on board software
programs for the price of a 12 inch screen is still good for boaters.
Competition of this type with today's overall market should see some new and
interesting opportunities.
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com on behalf of Scott
Sent: Tue 10/27/2009 2:59 PM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
You are correct that a true military spec laptop, reasonably priced
could be a positive thing for boaters.
However given the degree of problems I have had with a variety of
"military spec" electronics and a variety of manufacturer's laptops I am
not ready to substitute.
I hope the Dell is tougher than my Panasonic "Toughbook" whose screen
did not survive shipment by FedEx of which neither Panasonic, Amuras
(the online retailer), FedEx or American Express (purchased through)
will take responsibility for so I'm out $3500.
Thank you for your post. Should you or another member decide to go with
the Dell I would be very interested in hearing about your experience
with it.
Scott Clark
PS Sorry for venting about the "ToughBook", still bugs the hell out of
me.
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Meader
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:00 PM
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
Dell on Tuesday unveiled a 12.1-inch rugged convertible tablet PC, the
Latitude XT2 XFR, the first multitouch tablet PC that can withstand
ballistic
shock, extreme temperatures, dust, sand and moisture.
The marine electronics industry may not like this. A military spec
windows pc
that can stand up to harsh inviroments ( salt water & moisture ) for
retail
$3600. This is a portable laptop that can be taken with you off the
boat.
compare this against just a 12 inch screen for a boat, that does not
include a
computer. This should be a positive thing for boaters.
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
_______________________________________________
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
_______________________________________________
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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TA
Tim Askins
Wed, Oct 28, 2009 10:31 AM
I've been using a Panasonic Toughbook CF-74 for 3 years. It runs my CNC
machine in a woodshop environment, travels to jobsites daily and triples as my
back up nav,wi-fi connection and DVD player on my 47 foot cat. Maybe you just
got a lemon?
T Askins
Arriba
Breach Inlet, SC
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:32:10 -0700
From: jim@rmtmail.com
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
Your situation sucks, but the concept is still valid - a weather proof
computer with a 12 inch screen capable of handling many on board software
programs for the price of a 12 inch screen is still good for boaters.
Competition of this type with today's overall market should see some new
interesting opportunities.
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com on behalf of Scott
Sent: Tue 10/27/2009 2:59 PM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
You are correct that a true military spec laptop, reasonably priced
could be a positive thing for boaters.
However given the degree of problems I have had with a variety of
"military spec" electronics and a variety of manufacturer's laptops I am
not ready to substitute.
I hope the Dell is tougher than my Panasonic "Toughbook" whose screen
did not survive shipment by FedEx of which neither Panasonic, Amuras
(the online retailer), FedEx or American Express (purchased through)
will take responsibility for so I'm out $3500.
Thank you for your post. Should you or another member decide to go with
the Dell I would be very interested in hearing about your experience
with it.
Scott Clark
PS Sorry for venting about the "ToughBook", still bugs the hell out of
me.
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Meader
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:00 PM
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
Dell on Tuesday unveiled a 12.1-inch rugged convertible tablet PC, the
Latitude XT2 XFR, the first multitouch tablet PC that can withstand
ballistic
shock, extreme temperatures, dust, sand and moisture.
The marine electronics industry may not like this. A military spec
windows pc
that can stand up to harsh inviroments ( salt water & moisture ) for
retail
$3600. This is a portable laptop that can be taken with you off the
boat.
compare this against just a 12 inch screen for a boat, that does not
include a
computer. This should be a positive thing for boaters.
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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I've been using a Panasonic Toughbook CF-74 for 3 years. It runs my CNC
machine in a woodshop environment, travels to jobsites daily and triples as my
back up nav,wi-fi connection and DVD player on my 47 foot cat. Maybe you just
got a lemon?
T Askins
Arriba
Breach Inlet, SC
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:32:10 -0700
> From: jim@rmtmail.com
> To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
> Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
>
> Your situation sucks, but the concept is still valid - a weather proof
> computer with a 12 inch screen capable of handling many on board software
> programs for the price of a 12 inch screen is still good for boaters.
> Competition of this type with today's overall market should see some new
and
> interesting opportunities.
>
> Jim Meader
> Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
> DRE# 00493029
> Jim@rmtmail.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com on behalf of Scott
> Sent: Tue 10/27/2009 2:59 PM
> To: Power Catamaran List
> Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
>
> You are correct that a true military spec laptop, reasonably priced
> could be a positive thing for boaters.
> However given the degree of problems I have had with a variety of
> "military spec" electronics and a variety of manufacturer's laptops I am
> not ready to substitute.
>
> I hope the Dell is tougher than my Panasonic "Toughbook" whose screen
> did not survive shipment by FedEx of which neither Panasonic, Amuras
> (the online retailer), FedEx or American Express (purchased through)
> will take responsibility for so I'm out $3500.
>
> Thank you for your post. Should you or another member decide to go with
> the Dell I would be very interested in hearing about your experience
> with it.
>
> Scott Clark
>
> PS Sorry for venting about the "ToughBook", still bugs the hell out of
> me.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com
> [mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Meader
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:00 PM
> To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
> Subject: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
>
> Dell on Tuesday unveiled a 12.1-inch rugged convertible tablet PC, the
> Latitude XT2 XFR, the first multitouch tablet PC that can withstand
> ballistic
> shock, extreme temperatures, dust, sand and moisture.
>
> The marine electronics industry may not like this. A military spec
> windows pc
> that can stand up to harsh inviroments ( salt water & moisture ) for
> retail
> $3600. This is a portable laptop that can be taken with you off the
> boat.
> compare this against just a 12 inch screen for a boat, that does not
> include a
> computer. This should be a positive thing for boaters.
>
> Jim Meader
> Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
> DRE# 00493029
> Jim@rmtmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
> _______________________________________________
> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a
name of winmail.dat]
> _______________________________________________
> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
DO
Dan or Judy Kernell
Wed, Oct 28, 2009 1:50 PM
We traveled the Great Loop using a Raymarine Package with a Dell Inspiron
laptop as a back up. The laptop primary use was e-mail followed by weather
reports,picture storage,etc.
Using a laptop computer for navigation I found is a stretch when trying to
navigate in the sunlight. The laptops are not friendly to use during daylight
hours. We always had to go below out of the sunshine. Making shades around
the computer helps some.
For navigation I prefer to have a Raymarine, Garmin or others with
communication to the auto pilot. We love picking a waypoint on the chart and
letting the auto pilot take us to within 10 feet.
I would hope in the future the manufacturers of lalptops would make them more
user friendly to operating in the sunlight.
Have a great day.
Dan
Fanta Sea / Endeavour 44 TC
--- On Wed, 10/28/09, Tim Askins taskins@hotmail.com wrote:
From: Tim Askins taskins@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 6:31 AM
I've been using a Panasonic Toughbook CF-74 for 3 years. It runs my CNC
machine in a woodshop environment, travels to jobsites daily and triples as
my
back up nav,wi-fi connection and DVD player on my 47 foot cat. Maybe you just
got a lemon?
T Askins
Arriba
Breach Inlet, SC
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:32:10 -0700
From: jim@rmtmail.com
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
Your situation sucks, but the concept is still valid - a weather proof
computer with a 12 inch screen capable of handling many on board software
programs for the price of a 12 inch screen is still good for boaters.
Competition of this type with today's overall market should see some new
interesting opportunities.
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com on behalf of Scott
Sent: Tue 10/27/2009 2:59 PM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
You are correct that a true military spec laptop, reasonably priced
could be a positive thing for boaters.
However given the degree of problems I have had with a variety of
"military spec" electronics and a variety of manufacturer's laptops I am
not ready to substitute.
I hope the Dell is tougher than my Panasonic "Toughbook" whose screen
did not survive shipment by FedEx of which neither Panasonic, Amuras
(the online retailer), FedEx or American Express (purchased through)
will take responsibility for so I'm out $3500.
Thank you for your post. Should you or another member decide to go with
the Dell I would be very interested in hearing about your experience
with it.
Scott Clark
PS Sorry for venting about the "ToughBook", still bugs the hell out of
me.
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Meader
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:00 PM
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
Dell on Tuesday unveiled a 12.1-inch rugged convertible tablet PC, the
Latitude XT2 XFR, the first multitouch tablet PC that can withstand
ballistic
shock, extreme temperatures, dust, sand and moisture.
The marine electronics industry may not like this. A military spec
windows pc
that can stand up to harsh inviroments ( salt water & moisture ) for
retail
$3600. This is a portable laptop that can be taken with you off the
boat.
compare this against just a 12 inch screen for a boat, that does not
include a
computer. This should be a positive thing for boaters.
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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We traveled the Great Loop using a Raymarine Package with a Dell Inspiron
laptop as a back up. The laptop primary use was e-mail followed by weather
reports,picture storage,etc.
Using a laptop computer for navigation I found is a stretch when trying to
navigate in the sunlight. The laptops are not friendly to use during daylight
hours. We always had to go below out of the sunshine. Making shades around
the computer helps some.
For navigation I prefer to have a Raymarine, Garmin or others with
communication to the auto pilot. We love picking a waypoint on the chart and
letting the auto pilot take us to within 10 feet.
I would hope in the future the manufacturers of lalptops would make them more
user friendly to operating in the sunlight.
Have a great day.
Dan
Fanta Sea / Endeavour 44 TC
--- On Wed, 10/28/09, Tim Askins <taskins@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Tim Askins <taskins@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 6:31 AM
I've been using a Panasonic Toughbook CF-74 for 3 years. It runs my CNC
machine in a woodshop environment, travels to jobsites daily and triples as
my
back up nav,wi-fi connection and DVD player on my 47 foot cat. Maybe you just
got a lemon?
T Askins
Arriba
Breach Inlet, SC
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:32:10 -0700
> From: jim@rmtmail.com
> To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
> Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
>
> Your situation sucks, but the concept is still valid - a weather proof
> computer with a 12 inch screen capable of handling many on board software
> programs for the price of a 12 inch screen is still good for boaters.
> Competition of this type with today's overall market should see some new
and
> interesting opportunities.
>
> Jim Meader
> Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
> DRE# 00493029
> Jim@rmtmail.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com on behalf of Scott
> Sent: Tue 10/27/2009 2:59 PM
> To: Power Catamaran List
> Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
>
> You are correct that a true military spec laptop, reasonably priced
> could be a positive thing for boaters.
> However given the degree of problems I have had with a variety of
> "military spec" electronics and a variety of manufacturer's laptops I am
> not ready to substitute.
>
> I hope the Dell is tougher than my Panasonic "Toughbook" whose screen
> did not survive shipment by FedEx of which neither Panasonic, Amuras
> (the online retailer), FedEx or American Express (purchased through)
> will take responsibility for so I'm out $3500.
>
> Thank you for your post. Should you or another member decide to go with
> the Dell I would be very interested in hearing about your experience
> with it.
>
> Scott Clark
>
> PS Sorry for venting about the "ToughBook", still bugs the hell out of
> me.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com
> [mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Meader
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:00 PM
> To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
> Subject: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
>
> Dell on Tuesday unveiled a 12.1-inch rugged convertible tablet PC, the
> Latitude XT2 XFR, the first multitouch tablet PC that can withstand
> ballistic
> shock, extreme temperatures, dust, sand and moisture.
>
> The marine electronics industry may not like this. A military spec
> windows pc
> that can stand up to harsh inviroments ( salt water & moisture ) for
> retail
> $3600. This is a portable laptop that can be taken with you off the
> boat.
> compare this against just a 12 inch screen for a boat, that does not
> include a
> computer. This should be a positive thing for boaters.
>
> Jim Meader
> Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
> DRE# 00493029
> Jim@rmtmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
> _______________________________________________
> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a
name of winmail.dat]
> _______________________________________________
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2elnav@netbistro.com
Wed, Oct 28, 2009 4:16 PM
----- Original Message ----- >
We love picking a waypoint on the chart and
letting the auto pilot take us to within 10 feet.
REPLY
That is not such a good idea. This summer there was a news story of a
cruiser in Alaska doing exactly that. It resulted in the boat ramming a
charted rock doing extensive damage amounting to $$ thousands. The
owner's complaint that the chart was inaccurate was quickly rebutted by
several cruisers who pointed out the errors leading to why the boat had
rammed the charted rock at five knots or better. One cruiser who had
anchored nearby at almost the same time said he had taken one look at the
area and decided it was not sound seamanship to cut it that close.
Arild
----- Original Message ----- >
> We love picking a waypoint on the chart and
> letting the auto pilot take us to within 10 feet.
REPLY
That is not such a good idea. This summer there was a news story of a
cruiser in Alaska doing exactly that. It resulted in the boat ramming a
charted rock doing extensive damage amounting to $$ thousands. The
owner's complaint that the chart was inaccurate was quickly rebutted by
several cruisers who pointed out the errors leading to why the boat had
rammed the charted rock at five knots or better. One cruiser who had
anchored nearby at almost the same time said he had taken one look at the
area and decided it was not sound seamanship to cut it that close.
Arild
JM
Jim Meader
Wed, Oct 28, 2009 6:50 PM
Time, Place, knowledge - adult responsibility, are all factors in life and
boating. Machines are tools not human brain replacements
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com on behalf of
2elnav@netbistro.com
Sent: Wed 10/28/2009 8:16 AM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
----- Original Message ----- >
We love picking a waypoint on the chart and
letting the auto pilot take us to within 10 feet.
REPLY
That is not such a good idea. This summer there was a news story of a
cruiser in Alaska doing exactly that. It resulted in the boat ramming a
charted rock doing extensive damage amounting to $$ thousands. The
owner's complaint that the chart was inaccurate was quickly rebutted by
several cruisers who pointed out the errors leading to why the boat had
rammed the charted rock at five knots or better. One cruiser who had
anchored nearby at almost the same time said he had taken one look at the
area and decided it was not sound seamanship to cut it that close.
Arild
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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Time, Place, knowledge - adult responsibility, are all factors in life and
boating. Machines are tools not human brain replacements
Jim Meader
Broker/Owner RE/MAX Today
DRE# 00493029
Jim@rmtmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com on behalf of
2elnav@netbistro.com
Sent: Wed 10/28/2009 8:16 AM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
----- Original Message ----- >
> We love picking a waypoint on the chart and
> letting the auto pilot take us to within 10 feet.
REPLY
That is not such a good idea. This summer there was a news story of a
cruiser in Alaska doing exactly that. It resulted in the boat ramming a
charted rock doing extensive damage amounting to $$ thousands. The
owner's complaint that the chart was inaccurate was quickly rebutted by
several cruisers who pointed out the errors leading to why the boat had
rammed the charted rock at five knots or better. One cruiser who had
anchored nearby at almost the same time said he had taken one look at the
area and decided it was not sound seamanship to cut it that close.
Arild
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Bill Carlson, Sr.
Thu, Oct 29, 2009 3:20 AM
Charts are an APPROXIMATION of the physical realities - - relying on
them cost me over $6,000 in prop, hull, and rudder damage.
Bill
On Oct 28, 2009, at 12:16 PM, 2elnav@netbistro.com wrote:
----- Original Message ----- >
We love picking a waypoint on the chart and
letting the auto pilot take us to within 10 feet.
REPLY
That is not such a good idea. This summer there was a news story of
a cruiser in Alaska doing exactly that. It resulted in the boat
ramming a charted rock doing extensive damage amounting to $$
thousands. The owner's complaint that the chart was inaccurate was
quickly rebutted by several cruisers who pointed out the errors
leading to why the boat had rammed the charted rock at five knots
or better. One cruiser who had anchored nearby at almost the same
time said he had taken one look at the area and decided it was not
sound seamanship to cut it that close.
Arild _______________________________________________
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Charts are an APPROXIMATION of the physical realities - - relying on
them cost me over $6,000 in prop, hull, and rudder damage.
Bill
On Oct 28, 2009, at 12:16 PM, <2elnav@netbistro.com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- >
>> We love picking a waypoint on the chart and
>> letting the auto pilot take us to within 10 feet.
>
>
> REPLY
> That is not such a good idea. This summer there was a news story of
> a cruiser in Alaska doing exactly that. It resulted in the boat
> ramming a charted rock doing extensive damage amounting to $$
> thousands. The owner's complaint that the chart was inaccurate was
> quickly rebutted by several cruisers who pointed out the errors
> leading to why the boat had rammed the charted rock at five knots
> or better. One cruiser who had anchored nearby at almost the same
> time said he had taken one look at the area and decided it was not
> sound seamanship to cut it that close.
> Arild _______________________________________________
> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
DO
Dan or Judy Kernell
Thu, Oct 29, 2009 2:55 PM
Okay guys. If you can not trust the charts for navigation - what do your
trust. When I travel between day marker to day marker or other navigational
aids I have to trust the people placing the day markers. It is great to use
the auto pilot that has a track feature to adjust for wind or current. This
is actually more accurate steering between point to point than hand steering.
You cannot do this with a laptop with navigation software.
Have a great day.
Dan
--- On Wed, 10/28/09, Bill Carlson, Sr. bcarlson@erols.com wrote:
From: Bill Carlson, Sr. bcarlson@erols.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
To: "Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 11:20 PM
Charts are an APPROXIMATION of the physical realities - - relying on them cost
me over $6,000 in prop, hull, and rudder damage.
Bill
On Oct 28, 2009, at 12:16 PM, 2elnav@netbistro.com wrote:
----- Original Message ----- >
We love picking a waypoint on the chart and
letting the auto pilot take us to within 10 feet.
REPLY
That is not such a good idea. This summer there was a news story of a
cruiser in Alaska doing exactly that. It resulted in the boat ramming a
charted rock doing extensive damage amounting to $$ thousands. The
owner's complaint that the chart was inaccurate was quickly rebutted by
several cruisers who pointed out the errors leading to why the boat had
rammed the charted rock at five knots or better. One cruiser who had
anchored nearby at almost the same time said he had taken one look at the area
and decided it was not sound seamanship to cut it that close.
Arild _______________________________________________
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Okay guys. If you can not trust the charts for navigation - what do your
trust. When I travel between day marker to day marker or other navigational
aids I have to trust the people placing the day markers. It is great to use
the auto pilot that has a track feature to adjust for wind or current. This
is actually more accurate steering between point to point than hand steering.
You cannot do this with a laptop with navigation software.
Have a great day.
Dan
--- On Wed, 10/28/09, Bill Carlson, Sr. <bcarlson@erols.com> wrote:
From: Bill Carlson, Sr. <bcarlson@erols.com>
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 11:20 PM
Charts are an APPROXIMATION of the physical realities - - relying on them cost
me over $6,000 in prop, hull, and rudder damage.
Bill
On Oct 28, 2009, at 12:16 PM, <2elnav@netbistro.com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- >
>> We love picking a waypoint on the chart and
>> letting the auto pilot take us to within 10 feet.
>
>
> REPLY
> That is not such a good idea. This summer there was a news story of a
cruiser in Alaska doing exactly that. It resulted in the boat ramming a
charted rock doing extensive damage amounting to $$ thousands. The
owner's complaint that the chart was inaccurate was quickly rebutted by
several cruisers who pointed out the errors leading to why the boat had
rammed the charted rock at five knots or better. One cruiser who had
anchored nearby at almost the same time said he had taken one look at the area
and decided it was not sound seamanship to cut it that close.
> Arild _______________________________________________
> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
_______________________________________________
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BC
Bill Carlson, Sr.
Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:52 PM
Hi Dan,
As an Instrument rated pilot, I was trained to trust my instruments
rather than my senses. However, when my eyes are giving me
indisputable information (like I am closer to shore than I should be
according to the charts) then I believe my eyes.
Bill
On Oct 29, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Dan or Judy Kernell wrote:
Okay guys. If you can not trust the charts for navigation - what do
your
trust. When I travel between day marker to day marker or other
navigational
aids I have to trust the people placing the day markers. It is
great to use
the auto pilot that has a track feature to adjust for wind or
current. This
is actually more accurate steering between point to point than hand
steering.
You cannot do this with a laptop with navigation software.
Have a great day.
Dan
--- On Wed, 10/28/09, Bill Carlson, Sr. bcarlson@erols.com wrote:
From: Bill Carlson, Sr. bcarlson@erols.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
To: "Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 11:20 PM
Charts are an APPROXIMATION of the physical realities - - relying on
them cost
me over $6,000 in prop, hull, and rudder damage.
Bill
On Oct 28, 2009, at 12:16 PM, 2elnav@netbistro.com wrote:
----- Original Message ----- >
We love picking a waypoint on the chart and
letting the auto pilot take us to within 10 feet.
REPLY
That is not such a good idea. This summer there was a news story
of a
cruiser in Alaska doing exactly that. It resulted in the boat
ramming a
charted rock doing extensive damage amounting to $$ thousands.
The
owner's complaint that the chart was inaccurate was quickly rebutted
by
several cruisers who pointed out the errors leading to why the
boat had
rammed the charted rock at five knots or better. One cruiser who had
anchored nearby at almost the same time said he had taken one look
at the area
and decided it was not sound seamanship to cut it that close.
Arild _______________________________________________
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Hi Dan,
As an Instrument rated pilot, I was trained to trust my instruments
rather than my senses. However, when my eyes are giving me
indisputable information (like I am closer to shore than I should be
according to the charts) then I believe my eyes.
Bill
On Oct 29, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Dan or Judy Kernell wrote:
> Okay guys. If you can not trust the charts for navigation - what do
> your
> trust. When I travel between day marker to day marker or other
> navigational
> aids I have to trust the people placing the day markers. It is
> great to use
> the auto pilot that has a track feature to adjust for wind or
> current. This
> is actually more accurate steering between point to point than hand
> steering.
> You cannot do this with a laptop with navigation software.
>
> Have a great day.
>
> Dan
>
> --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Bill Carlson, Sr. <bcarlson@erols.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Bill Carlson, Sr. <bcarlson@erols.com>
> Subject: Re: [PCW] Electronic Equipment
> To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
> Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 11:20 PM
>
>
> Charts are an APPROXIMATION of the physical realities - - relying on
> them cost
> me over $6,000 in prop, hull, and rudder damage.
> Bill
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2009, at 12:16 PM, <2elnav@netbistro.com> wrote:
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- >
>>> We love picking a waypoint on the chart and
>>> letting the auto pilot take us to within 10 feet.
>>
>>
>> REPLY
>> That is not such a good idea. This summer there was a news story
>> of a
> cruiser in Alaska doing exactly that. It resulted in the boat
> ramming a
> charted rock doing extensive damage amounting to $$ thousands.
> The
> owner's complaint that the chart was inaccurate was quickly rebutted
> by
> several cruisers who pointed out the errors leading to why the
> boat had
> rammed the charted rock at five knots or better. One cruiser who had
> anchored nearby at almost the same time said he had taken one look
> at the area
> and decided it was not sound seamanship to cut it that close.
>> Arild _______________________________________________
>> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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