Re: [PCW] Lagoon Power 43, was Introduction and Yum Yum

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brian eiland
Mon, Mar 14, 2005 2:35 PM

Brian Eiland had written:
Did you visit aboard and test run a Lagoon 43 powercat? Or have you ever had

the chance to run along with one? in any kind of seaway? I would be interested
to learn of a real-life comparision, and particularly the wave interaction
with the bridgedeck?

Do you know how and why the new 'longer' 485 model came about?


Georgs Kolesnikovs ask:

You seem to hinting at something, Brian, so give us the lowdown on
the Lagoon Power, if you have it.


Brian responded:
I have no particular insider info on the Lagoon. I had sought to go out on a
test run in a bit of nasty weather, and see for myself how the vessel reacted
to bridgedeck clearance....never got the opportunity yet. Seems as though most
dealers want nice conditions for test rides. I want some nasty conditions,
and/or an honest owner who is not affraid to own up to any possible
shortcomings in the vessel he chose.

I see some number of conflicting reports on the capabilities of these various
powercat designs that for the most part all have relatively low bridgedecks.
It might appear as though those vessels with a narrower overall beam suffer
less, although one might think that fat individual hulls and a narrow tunnel
would be more problemantic.

As an example I see the owner of YumYum telling us of some fairly rougher
conditions on his factory trial down off SA, and yet no slamming, nor even
'sneezing'. Then I review some of the 5000 mile trip aboard a Lagoon that
includes some milder conditions and yet some fair amount of interference at
the bridgedeck. If you look at some of the manufacturers propoganda in their
literature and in magazines, you might be lead to believe that they have all
solved the problem. I sure would like to see a side-by-side test of a great
number of these vessel in an exact similar condition so we might really learn
the truth of what works best!!

The increased length question resulted from an observation that many times now
we see the lengths of these vessels be added to after they are 'in
production'. i can't believe that these lengthenings are all a result of
gaining more interior space.

Brian Eiland

beiland@usa.net
http://www.RunningTideYachts.com
distinctive multihull expedition yachts

>Brian Eiland had written: >Did you visit aboard and test run a Lagoon 43 powercat? Or have you ever had the chance to run along with one? in any kind of seaway? I would be interested to learn of a real-life comparision, and particularly the wave interaction with the bridgedeck? >Do you know how and why the new 'longer' 485 model came about? _________________________ >Georgs Kolesnikovs ask: You seem to hinting at something, Brian, so give us the lowdown on the Lagoon Power, if you have it. ______________________________________________________________ Brian responded: I have no particular insider info on the Lagoon. I had sought to go out on a test run in a bit of nasty weather, and see for myself how the vessel reacted to bridgedeck clearance....never got the opportunity yet. Seems as though most dealers want nice conditions for test rides. I want some nasty conditions, and/or an honest owner who is not affraid to own up to any possible shortcomings in the vessel he chose. I see some number of conflicting reports on the capabilities of these various powercat designs that for the most part all have relatively low bridgedecks. It might appear as though those vessels with a narrower overall beam suffer less, although one might think that fat individual hulls and a narrow tunnel would be more problemantic. As an example I see the owner of YumYum telling us of some fairly rougher conditions on his factory trial down off SA, and yet no slamming, nor even 'sneezing'. Then I review some of the 5000 mile trip aboard a Lagoon that includes some milder conditions and yet some fair amount of interference at the bridgedeck. If you look at some of the manufacturers propoganda in their literature and in magazines, you might be lead to believe that they have all solved the problem. I sure would like to see a side-by-side test of a great number of these vessel in an exact similar condition so we might really learn the truth of what works best!! The increased length question resulted from an observation that many times now we see the lengths of these vessels be added to after they are 'in production'. i can't believe that these lengthenings are all a result of gaining more interior space. Brian Eiland beiland@usa.net http://www.RunningTideYachts.com distinctive multihull expedition yachts
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Georgs Kolesnikovs
Mon, Mar 14, 2005 4:55 PM

Brian Eiland had written:

I see some number of conflicting reports on the capabilities of these various
powercat designs that for the most part all have relatively low bridgedecks.
It might appear as though those vessels with a narrower overall beam suffer
less, although one might think that fat individual hulls and a narrow tunnel
would be more problemantic.

I have been trying to understand what various designers and builders
say about optimum ratios of bridgedeck clearance to beam and length
but so far the picture is far from clear.

If anyone has a comment in this regard, please post away.

--Georgs

> >Brian Eiland had written: >I see some number of conflicting reports on the capabilities of these various >powercat designs that for the most part all have relatively low bridgedecks. >It might appear as though those vessels with a narrower overall beam suffer >less, although one might think that fat individual hulls and a narrow tunnel >would be more problemantic. I have been trying to understand what various designers and builders say about optimum ratios of bridgedeck clearance to beam and length but so far the picture is far from clear. If anyone has a comment in this regard, please post away. --Georgs