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Bruce Adornato

Wed, Sep 18, 2019 4:10 PM

I was just reading the latest Popular Mechanics. They have a nice article
on new "camp" stoves. I am planning to buy a $135 Eureka two burner
(10,000 btu each) portable for my Mainship 30. I only cook on it rarely
and never use an oven.. and I have my propane barbecue as well. Simple
solution.

bruce adornato
M/V SarahMcLean
Sausalito CA

I was just reading the latest Popular Mechanics. They have a nice article on new "camp" stoves. I am planning to buy a $135 Eureka two burner (10,000 btu each) portable for my Mainship 30. I only cook on it rarely and never use an oven.. and I have my propane barbecue as well. Simple solution. -- bruce adornato M/V SarahMcLean Sausalito CA

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Brent Hodges

Wed, Sep 18, 2019 4:55 PM

From: Bruce Adornato via Trawlers-and-Trawlering
I was just reading the latest Popular Mechanics. They have a nice article
on new "camp" stoves. I am planning to buy a $135 Eureka two burner
(10,000 btu each) portable for my Mainship 30. I only cook on it rarely and
never use an oven.. and I have my propane barbecue as well. Simple
solution.(endsnip)

That would work in some circumstances, but as a full time livaboard I
actually use the oven. Actually what is prompting my action at this time is
the oven dying in my old unit.
Thanks!
Brent

From: Bruce Adornato via Trawlers-and-Trawlering I was just reading the latest Popular Mechanics. They have a nice article on new "camp" stoves. I am planning to buy a $135 Eureka two burner (10,000 btu each) portable for my Mainship 30. I only cook on it rarely and never use an oven.. and I have my propane barbecue as well. Simple solution.(endsnip) That would work in some circumstances, but as a full time livaboard I actually use the oven. Actually what is prompting my action at this time is the oven dying in my old unit. Thanks! Brent

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Rudy Sechez

Wed, Sep 18, 2019 8:47 PM

Hi Brent, in support of Bruce's idea, though it doesn't sound like it would
work for you, we too use a two-burner, propane "camping stove", but only
when it is too hot to use our diesel stove/oven. We sit the camp stove on
top of the diesel stove. We've been doing this for 15 years, refilling 1 lb
propane bottles from a 20 lb bottle. We do miss baking during the hot
season, but that gives us an excuse to find restaurants that provide baked
items on their menu. We do bake some with our un-pressurized pressure
cooker on the camp stove- bread, cup cakes, and the like. I don't know what
Bruce is using, but we buy the cheapest propane cook top that we can find
at Walmart. or like stores, and add a sea rail to it made from 1/8 x 1
aluminum flat bar. Last one lasted 13 years and we just replaced it with
another.

RUDY & JILL SECHEZ
*BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler *
850-832-7748
Sanford, FL
TRAWLER TRAINING and ANCHORING CONSULTANTS
ANCHORING-"A Ground Tackler's Apprentice"- E-Book or Hard Copy

Hi Brent, in support of Bruce's idea, though it doesn't sound like it would work for you, we too use a two-burner, propane "camping stove", but only when it is too hot to use our diesel stove/oven. We sit the camp stove on top of the diesel stove. We've been doing this for 15 years, refilling 1 lb propane bottles from a 20 lb bottle. We do miss baking during the hot season, but that gives us an excuse to find restaurants that provide baked items on their menu. We do bake some with our un-pressurized pressure cooker on the camp stove- bread, cup cakes, and the like. I don't know what Bruce is using, but we buy the cheapest propane cook top that we can find at Walmart. or like stores, and add a sea rail to it made from 1/8 x 1 aluminum flat bar. Last one lasted 13 years and we just replaced it with another. *RUDY & JILL SECHEZ* *BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler * *850-832-7748* Sanford, FL TRAWLER TRAINING and ANCHORING CONSULTANTS ANCHORING-"A Ground Tackler's Apprentice"- E-Book or Hard Copy

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Rudy Sechez

Wed, Sep 18, 2019 9:43 PM

Hi Brent, in support of Bruce's idea, though it doesn't sound like it would
work for you, we, too, use a two-burner, propane "camping stove", but only
when it is too hot to use our diesel stove/oven. We sit the camp stove on
top of the diesel stove. We've been doing this for 15 years, refilling 1 lb
propane bottles from a 20 lb bottle. We do miss baking during the hot
season, but that gives us an excuse to find restaurants that provide baked
items on their menu. We do bake some with our un-pressurized pressure
cooker on the camp stove- bread, cup cakes, and the like. I don't know what
Bruce is using, but we buy the cheapest propane cook top that we can find
at Walmart. or like stores, and add a sea rail to it made from 1/8 x 1
aluminum flat bar. Last one lasted 13 years and we just replaced it with
another.

RUDY & JILL SECHEZ
*BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler *
850-832-7748
Sanford, FL
TRAWLER TRAINING and ANCHORING CONSULTANTS
ANCHORING-"A Ground Tackler's Apprentice"- E-Book or Hard Copy

Hi Brent, in support of Bruce's idea, though it doesn't sound like it would work for you, we, too, use a two-burner, propane "camping stove", but only when it is too hot to use our diesel stove/oven. We sit the camp stove on top of the diesel stove. We've been doing this for 15 years, refilling 1 lb propane bottles from a 20 lb bottle. We do miss baking during the hot season, but that gives us an excuse to find restaurants that provide baked items on their menu. We do bake some with our un-pressurized pressure cooker on the camp stove- bread, cup cakes, and the like. I don't know what Bruce is using, but we buy the cheapest propane cook top that we can find at Walmart. or like stores, and add a sea rail to it made from 1/8 x 1 aluminum flat bar. Last one lasted 13 years and we just replaced it with another. *RUDY & JILL SECHEZ* *BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler * *850-832-7748* Sanford, FL TRAWLER TRAINING and ANCHORING CONSULTANTS ANCHORING-"A Ground Tackler's Apprentice"- E-Book or Hard Copy

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Sean Welsh

Wed, Sep 18, 2019 10:01 PM

LPG cooking appliances permanently installed in vessels need to have
thermocouple shutoffs that stop the flow of gas if the flame goes out.

Camping stoves and stoves made for RVs lack this feature.

This is an explosion waiting to happen. It can kill you. I strongly
advise against it.

-Sean
m/y Vector
lying Peoria, IL
http://OurOdyssey.BlogSpot.com

On 9/18/19 11:10 AM, Bruce Adornato via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote:

... They have a nice article
on new "camp" stoves. I am planning to buy a $135 Eureka two burner
(10,000 btu each) portable for my Mainship 30.

LPG cooking appliances permanently installed in vessels need to have thermocouple shutoffs that stop the flow of gas if the flame goes out. Camping stoves and stoves made for RVs lack this feature. This is an explosion waiting to happen. It can kill you. I strongly advise against it. -Sean m/y Vector lying Peoria, IL http://OurOdyssey.BlogSpot.com On 9/18/19 11:10 AM, Bruce Adornato via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote: > ... They have a nice article > on new "camp" stoves. I am planning to buy a $135 Eureka two burner > (10,000 btu each) portable for my Mainship 30.

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Rudy Sechez

Thu, Sep 19, 2019 12:29 AM

According to ABYC standard A-3, only permanently installed appliances for
cooking in interior spaces require some form of automatic shut off in case
of flame out. According to ABYC standard A-30, which applies to appliances
with integrated fuel bottles, no mention of an automatic fuel shut off is
noted. There is a requirement that the appliance burner control is a
push-turn, or other two step operation. Additionally, bottles less than 8
oz can remain attached in internal spaces. Bottles 8 oz - 16 oz are not,
according to the standard to be used in interior spaces, nor are they to be
stored in interior spaces.
With this understanding should a camping stove have the 2-step operation
and bottles of less than 8 oz be used, "camp stoves" are acceptable under
the ABYC standards.
On our boat, even the smallest of propane that escapes is readily apparent,
and appropriate steps would be taken. We also do not leave a burner on
unless we are present so that in the event that a flame out we're right
there to turn the gas off. As with many things, common sense and prudence
should prevail.

RUDY & JILL SECHEZ
*BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler *
850-832-7748
Sanford FL
TRAWLER TRAINING and ANCHORING CONSULTANTS
ANCHORING-"A Ground Tackler's Apprentice"- E-Book or Hard Copy

According to ABYC standard A-3, only permanently installed appliances for cooking in interior spaces require some form of automatic shut off in case of flame out. According to ABYC standard A-30, which applies to appliances with integrated fuel bottles, no mention of an automatic fuel shut off is noted. There is a requirement that the appliance burner control is a push-turn, or other two step operation. Additionally, bottles less than 8 oz can remain attached in internal spaces. Bottles 8 oz - 16 oz are not, according to the standard to be used in interior spaces, nor are they to be stored in interior spaces. With this understanding should a camping stove have the 2-step operation and bottles of less than 8 oz be used, "camp stoves" are acceptable under the ABYC standards. On our boat, even the smallest of propane that escapes is readily apparent, and appropriate steps would be taken. We also do not leave a burner on unless we are present so that in the event that a flame out we're right there to turn the gas off. As with many things, common sense and prudence should prevail. *RUDY & JILL SECHEZ* *BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler * *850-832-7748* Sanford FL TRAWLER TRAINING and ANCHORING CONSULTANTS ANCHORING-"A Ground Tackler's Apprentice"- E-Book or Hard Copy > >

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Propane stove for galley

I was just reading the latest Popular Mechanics. They have a nice article
on new "camp" stoves. I am planning to buy a $135 Eureka two burner
(10,000 btu each) portable for my Mainship 30. I only cook on it rarely
and never use an oven.. and I have my propane barbecue as well. Simple
solution.