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Fluke 343 arrived, trip behaviour

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Frank Stellmach
Fri, May 11, 2012 7:01 PM

Hello Fabio,

the rattling is ok, and as far as I remember, the behaviour was
different depending on the range. Either the circuitry simply discharged
the caps (rattling sound), or it even shut off the output completely, as
if a short circuit occured. This is described in the manual, which you
can find on the net.

On your unit, I suspect the crowbar driver circuitry and/or sink supply
to work incorrectly.

Frank

Hello Fabio, the rattling is ok, and as far as I remember, the behaviour was different depending on the range. Either the circuitry simply discharged the caps (rattling sound), or it even shut off the output completely, as if a short circuit occured. This is described in the manual, which you can find on the net. On your unit, I suspect the crowbar driver circuitry and/or sink supply to work incorrectly. Frank
FE
Fabio Eboli
Sat, May 12, 2012 7:08 AM

Frank Stellmach frank.stellmach@freenet.de ha scritto:

Hello Fabio,

...

On your unit, I suspect the crowbar driver circuitry and/or sink
supply to work incorrectly.

Frank

Hello Frank, thank you, now I don't have time, but I opened
the unit and saw a lot of dirt, this unit is old ,
the selectors plastic parts seem a little fragile and
one was repaired in the past.
when I have a little time I'll clean it and check the circuitry,
I downloded the manual, the important is that the matched resistors
and the voltage reference seem to be ok, the rest should be not hard to fix.

Fabio.


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Frank Stellmach <frank.stellmach@freenet.de> ha scritto: > Hello Fabio, > ... > > On your unit, I suspect the crowbar driver circuitry and/or sink > supply to work incorrectly. > > Frank Hello Frank, thank you, now I don't have time, but I opened the unit and saw a lot of dirt, this unit is old , the selectors plastic parts seem a little fragile and one was repaired in the past. when I have a little time I'll clean it and check the circuitry, I downloded the manual, the important is that the matched resistors and the voltage reference seem to be ok, the rest should be not hard to fix. Fabio. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
MK
m k
Sat, May 12, 2012 7:13 AM

Hi, Fabio,

Also dont forget that the electroytics will be leaky with not being used for a while. After cleanng, try and leave it on overnight to reform them, unless it seems to be getting hot that is.

M K

Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 09:08:14 +0200
From: fabioeb@quipo.it
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 343 arrived, trip behaviour

Frank Stellmach frank.stellmach@freenet.de ha scritto:

Hello Fabio,

...

On your unit, I suspect the crowbar driver circuitry and/or sink
supply to work incorrectly.

Frank

Hello Frank, thank you, now I don't have time, but I opened
the unit and saw a lot of dirt, this unit is old ,
the selectors plastic parts seem a little fragile and
one was repaired in the past.
when I have a little time I'll clean it and check the circuitry,
I downloded the manual, the important is that the matched resistors
and the voltage reference seem to be ok, the rest should be not hard to fix.

Fabio.

Hi, Fabio, Also dont forget that the electroytics will be leaky with not being used for a while. After cleanng, try and leave it on overnight to reform them, unless it seems to be getting hot that is. M K > Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 09:08:14 +0200 > From: fabioeb@quipo.it > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 343 arrived, trip behaviour > > Frank Stellmach <frank.stellmach@freenet.de> ha scritto: > > > Hello Fabio, > > > ... > > > > On your unit, I suspect the crowbar driver circuitry and/or sink > > supply to work incorrectly. > > > > Frank > > Hello Frank, thank you, now I don't have time, but I opened > the unit and saw a lot of dirt, this unit is old , > the selectors plastic parts seem a little fragile and > one was repaired in the past. > when I have a little time I'll clean it and check the circuitry, > I downloded the manual, the important is that the matched resistors > and the voltage reference seem to be ok, the rest should be not hard to fix. > > Fabio. >
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Fabio Eboli
Sat, May 12, 2012 7:36 AM

Another question for who opened these units before:
my 343 main board is marked 341 3003, is the board shared
between the two models?
If I remember correctly in the schematics the differences
on the mainboard should be some components values,
is this correct?

Fabio.

m k m1k3k1@hotmail.com ha scritto:

Hi, Fabio,

Also dont forget that the electroytics will be leaky with not being
used for a while. After cleanng, try and leave it on overnight to
reform them, unless it seems to be getting hot that is.

M K

Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 09:08:14 +0200
From: fabioeb@quipo.it
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 343 arrived, trip behaviour

Frank Stellmach frank.stellmach@freenet.de ha scritto:

Hello Fabio,

...

On your unit, I suspect the crowbar driver circuitry and/or sink
supply to work incorrectly.

Frank

Hello Frank, thank you, now I don't have time, but I opened
the unit and saw a lot of dirt, this unit is old ,
the selectors plastic parts seem a little fragile and
one was repaired in the past.
when I have a little time I'll clean it and check the circuitry,
I downloded the manual, the important is that the matched resistors
and the voltage reference seem to be ok, the rest should be not hard to fix.

Fabio.


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Another question for who opened these units before: my 343 main board is marked 341 3003, is the board shared between the two models? If I remember correctly in the schematics the differences on the mainboard should be some components values, is this correct? Fabio. m k <m1k3k1@hotmail.com> ha scritto: > > Hi, Fabio, > > Also dont forget that the electroytics will be leaky with not being > used for a while. After cleanng, try and leave it on overnight to > reform them, unless it seems to be getting hot that is. > > M K > >> Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 09:08:14 +0200 >> From: fabioeb@quipo.it >> To: volt-nuts@febo.com >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Fluke 343 arrived, trip behaviour >> >> Frank Stellmach <frank.stellmach@freenet.de> ha scritto: >> >> > Hello Fabio, >> > >> ... >> > >> > On your unit, I suspect the crowbar driver circuitry and/or sink >> > supply to work incorrectly. >> > >> > Frank >> >> Hello Frank, thank you, now I don't have time, but I opened >> the unit and saw a lot of dirt, this unit is old , >> the selectors plastic parts seem a little fragile and >> one was repaired in the past. >> when I have a little time I'll clean it and check the circuitry, >> I downloded the manual, the important is that the matched resistors >> and the voltage reference seem to be ok, the rest should be not hard to fix. >> >> Fabio. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
CH
Chuck Harris
Sat, May 12, 2012 11:59 AM

The 341A is a 343A with one fewer stage in the K-V divider.
Otherwise it is electrically the same.

Because the 343A has slightly better drift and noise
characteristics, it is probable that it uses some parts that
are selected.

-Chuck Harris

Fabio Eboli wrote:

Another question for who opened these units before:
my 343 main board is marked 341 3003, is the board shared
between the two models?
If I remember correctly in the schematics the differences
on the mainboard should be some components values,
is this correct?

Fabio.

The 341A is a 343A with one fewer stage in the K-V divider. Otherwise it is electrically the same. Because the 343A has slightly better drift and noise characteristics, it is probable that it uses some parts that are selected. -Chuck Harris Fabio Eboli wrote: > Another question for who opened these units before: > my 343 main board is marked 341 3003, is the board shared > between the two models? > If I remember correctly in the schematics the differences > on the mainboard should be some components values, > is this correct? > > Fabio.