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Can the Octoclock CDA-2990 use a Timeprovider 4100's PPS/Freq as inputs?

CN
Chris Newman
Thu, Mar 13, 2025 10:57 AM

Hi,

I'd like to use a Chronos Timeprovider 4100
https://chronos.uk/product/telecom-master-clocks/timeprovider-4100-precise-timing-grandmaster-r2-4/
to provide the input signals to the Octoclock CDA-2990.

Will the Octoclock accept the Timeprovider's signals for 10MHz and PPS?
Presumably the Timeprovider is outputting sine waves.

I see the Octoclock outputs the square waves needed by the SDRs. Therefore,
I guess the question is - can the Octoclock convert sine waves to square
waves?

The Octoclock FAQ states:

  • What are the input and output specifications?

  • 10 MHz Input – 0-10 dBm

  • 10 MHz Outputs - ~1.4 Vpp Square Wave, Impedance 50 ohm nominal

  • 1 PPS Input - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V

  • 1 PPS Outputs - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V

--

Hi, I'd like to use a Chronos Timeprovider 4100 <https://chronos.uk/product/telecom-master-clocks/timeprovider-4100-precise-timing-grandmaster-r2-4/> to provide the input signals to the Octoclock CDA-2990. Will the Octoclock accept the Timeprovider's signals for 10MHz and PPS? Presumably the Timeprovider is outputting sine waves. I see the Octoclock outputs the square waves needed by the SDRs. Therefore, I guess the question is - can the Octoclock convert sine waves to square waves? The Octoclock FAQ states: - *What are the input and output specifications?* - 10 MHz Input – 0-10 dBm - 10 MHz Outputs - ~1.4 Vpp Square Wave, Impedance 50 ohm nominal - 1 PPS Input - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V - 1 PPS Outputs - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V --
CN
Chris Newman
Thu, Mar 13, 2025 1:30 PM

Hi,

I found some documentation for the Timeprovider 4100 and there are 2 ports
which can be configured to output either 1PPS or 10MHz. The latter is a
square wave so I guess I can plug that into the Octoclock:

[image: image.png]

The question now is if the Timeprovider's PPS output is compatible with the
Octoclock. I note the pulse width is configurable is set to 1000, and there
is also an offset param:

[image: image.png]

And, if the PPS is ok then can the Octoclock derive the Freq from that or
is it better to plug both in separately.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 10:57, Chris Newman chris@mode51.software wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to use a Chronos Timeprovider 4100
https://chronos.uk/product/telecom-master-clocks/timeprovider-4100-precise-timing-grandmaster-r2-4/
to provide the input signals to the Octoclock CDA-2990.

Will the Octoclock accept the Timeprovider's signals for 10MHz and PPS?
Presumably the Timeprovider is outputting sine waves.

I see the Octoclock outputs the square waves needed by the SDRs.
Therefore, I guess the question is - can the Octoclock convert sine waves
to square waves?

The Octoclock FAQ states:

- *What are the input and output specifications?*


- 10 MHz Input – 0-10 dBm
- 10 MHz Outputs - ~1.4 Vpp Square Wave, Impedance 50 ohm nominal
- 1 PPS Input - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V
- 1 PPS Outputs - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V

--

Hi, I found some documentation for the Timeprovider 4100 and there are 2 ports which can be configured to output either 1PPS or 10MHz. The latter is a square wave so I guess I can plug that into the Octoclock: [image: image.png] The question now is if the Timeprovider's PPS output is compatible with the Octoclock. I note the pulse width is configurable is set to 1000, and there is also an offset param: [image: image.png] And, if the PPS is ok then can the Octoclock derive the Freq from that or is it better to plug both in separately. On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 10:57, Chris Newman <chris@mode51.software> wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to use a Chronos Timeprovider 4100 > <https://chronos.uk/product/telecom-master-clocks/timeprovider-4100-precise-timing-grandmaster-r2-4/> > to provide the input signals to the Octoclock CDA-2990. > > Will the Octoclock accept the Timeprovider's signals for 10MHz and PPS? > Presumably the Timeprovider is outputting sine waves. > > I see the Octoclock outputs the square waves needed by the SDRs. > Therefore, I guess the question is - can the Octoclock convert sine waves > to square waves? > > The Octoclock FAQ states: > > > - *What are the input and output specifications?* > > > - 10 MHz Input – 0-10 dBm > - 10 MHz Outputs - ~1.4 Vpp Square Wave, Impedance 50 ohm nominal > - 1 PPS Input - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V > - 1 PPS Outputs - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V > > > > -- >
MD
Marcus D. Leech
Thu, Mar 13, 2025 2:16 PM

On 13/03/2025 09:30, Chris Newman via USRP-users wrote:

Hi,

I found some documentation for the Timeprovider 4100 and there are 2
ports which can be configured to output either 1PPS or 10MHz. The
latter is a square wave so I guess I can plug that into the Octoclock:

image.png

The question now is if the Timeprovider's PPS output is compatible
with the Octoclock. I note the pulse width is configurable is set to
1000, and there is also an offset param:

image.png

And, if the PPS is ok then can the Octoclock derive the Freq from that
or is it better to plug both in separately.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 10:57, Chris Newman chris@mode51.software wrote:

 Hi,

 I'd like to use a Chronos Timeprovider 4100
 <https://chronos.uk/product/telecom-master-clocks/timeprovider-4100-precise-timing-grandmaster-r2-4/>
 to provide the input signals to the Octoclock CDA-2990.

 Will the Octoclock accept the Timeprovider's signals for 10MHz and
 PPS? Presumably the Timeprovider is outputting sine waves.

 I see the Octoclock outputs the square waves needed by the SDRs.
 Therefore, I guess the question is - can the Octoclock convert
 sine waves to square waves?

 The Octoclock FAQ states:

   * *What are the input and output specifications?*

   * 10 MHz Input – 0-10 dBm
   * 10 MHz Outputs - ~1.4 Vpp Square Wave, Impedance 50 ohm nominal
   * 1 PPS Input - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V
   * 1 PPS Outputs - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V



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The Octoclock is basically a distributor of PPS and 10MHz. It cannot
use the 1PPS to phase-lock its internal clock.

For the 10MHz signal from your time-provider, I would insert a 3-5dB
attenuator, since the lowest level of the
  TimeProvider output is right at the top end of what the Octoclock can
tolerate.

On 13/03/2025 09:30, Chris Newman via USRP-users wrote: > Hi, > > I found some documentation for the Timeprovider 4100 and there are 2 > ports which can be configured to output either 1PPS or 10MHz. The > latter is a square wave so I guess I can plug that into the Octoclock: > > image.png > > The question now is if the Timeprovider's PPS output is compatible > with the Octoclock. I note the pulse width is configurable is set to > 1000, and there is also an offset param: > > image.png > > > And, if the PPS is ok then can the Octoclock derive the Freq from that > or is it better to plug both in separately. > > > > On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 10:57, Chris Newman <chris@mode51.software> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd like to use a Chronos Timeprovider 4100 > <https://chronos.uk/product/telecom-master-clocks/timeprovider-4100-precise-timing-grandmaster-r2-4/> > to provide the input signals to the Octoclock CDA-2990. > > Will the Octoclock accept the Timeprovider's signals for 10MHz and > PPS? Presumably the Timeprovider is outputting sine waves. > > I see the Octoclock outputs the square waves needed by the SDRs. > Therefore, I guess the question is - can the Octoclock convert > sine waves to square waves? > > The Octoclock FAQ states: > > * *What are the input and output specifications?* > > * 10 MHz Input – 0-10 dBm > * 10 MHz Outputs - ~1.4 Vpp Square Wave, Impedance 50 ohm nominal > * 1 PPS Input - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V > * 1 PPS Outputs - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list --usrp-users@lists.ettus.com > To unsubscribe send an email tousrp-users-leave@lists.ettus.com The Octoclock is basically a *distributor* of PPS and 10MHz. It cannot use the 1PPS to phase-lock its internal clock. For the 10MHz signal from your time-provider, I would insert a 3-5dB attenuator, since the lowest level of the   TimeProvider output is right at the top end of what the Octoclock can tolerate.
CN
Chris Newman
Thu, Mar 13, 2025 2:48 PM

Hi Marcus,

The Octoclock is basically a distributor of PPS and 10MHz. It cannot use

the 1PPS to phase-lock its internal clock.

For the 10MHz signal from your time-provider, I would insert a 3-5dB

attenuator, since the lowest level of the

TimeProvider output is right at the top end of what the Octoclock can

tolerate.

Thanks, really appreciate it.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 14:17, Marcus D. Leech patchvonbraun@gmail.com
wrote:

On 13/03/2025 09:30, Chris Newman via USRP-users wrote:

Hi,

I found some documentation for the Timeprovider 4100 and there are 2 ports
which can be configured to output either 1PPS or 10MHz. The latter is a
square wave so I guess I can plug that into the Octoclock:

[image: image.png]

The question now is if the Timeprovider's PPS output is compatible with
the Octoclock. I note the pulse width is configurable is set to 1000, and
there is also an offset param:

[image: image.png]

And, if the PPS is ok then can the Octoclock derive the Freq from that or
is it better to plug both in separately.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 10:57, Chris Newman chris@mode51.software
chris@mode51.software wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to use a Chronos Timeprovider 4100
https://chronos.uk/product/telecom-master-clocks/timeprovider-4100-precise-timing-grandmaster-r2-4/
to provide the input signals to the Octoclock CDA-2990.

Will the Octoclock accept the Timeprovider's signals for 10MHz and PPS?
Presumably the Timeprovider is outputting sine waves.

I see the Octoclock outputs the square waves needed by the SDRs.
Therefore, I guess the question is - can the Octoclock convert sine waves
to square waves?

The Octoclock FAQ states:

- *What are the input and output specifications?*


- 10 MHz Input – 0-10 dBm
- 10 MHz Outputs - ~1.4 Vpp Square Wave, Impedance 50 ohm nominal
- 1 PPS Input - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V
- 1 PPS Outputs - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V

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The Octoclock is basically a distributor of PPS and 10MHz. It cannot use
the 1PPS to phase-lock its internal clock.

For the 10MHz signal from your time-provider, I would insert a 3-5dB
attenuator, since the lowest level of the
TimeProvider output is right at the top end of what the Octoclock can
tolerate.


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Hi Marcus, >The Octoclock is basically a *distributor* of PPS and 10MHz. It cannot use the 1PPS to phase-lock its internal clock. >For the 10MHz signal from your time-provider, I would insert a 3-5dB attenuator, since the lowest level of the > TimeProvider output is right at the top end of what the Octoclock can tolerate. Thanks, really appreciate it. On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 14:17, Marcus D. Leech <patchvonbraun@gmail.com> wrote: > On 13/03/2025 09:30, Chris Newman via USRP-users wrote: > > Hi, > > I found some documentation for the Timeprovider 4100 and there are 2 ports > which can be configured to output either 1PPS or 10MHz. The latter is a > square wave so I guess I can plug that into the Octoclock: > > [image: image.png] > > The question now is if the Timeprovider's PPS output is compatible with > the Octoclock. I note the pulse width is configurable is set to 1000, and > there is also an offset param: > > [image: image.png] > > > And, if the PPS is ok then can the Octoclock derive the Freq from that or > is it better to plug both in separately. > > > > On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 10:57, Chris Newman <chris@mode51.software> > <chris@mode51.software> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to use a Chronos Timeprovider 4100 >> <https://chronos.uk/product/telecom-master-clocks/timeprovider-4100-precise-timing-grandmaster-r2-4/> >> to provide the input signals to the Octoclock CDA-2990. >> >> Will the Octoclock accept the Timeprovider's signals for 10MHz and PPS? >> Presumably the Timeprovider is outputting sine waves. >> >> I see the Octoclock outputs the square waves needed by the SDRs. >> Therefore, I guess the question is - can the Octoclock convert sine waves >> to square waves? >> >> The Octoclock FAQ states: >> >> >> - *What are the input and output specifications?* >> >> >> - 10 MHz Input – 0-10 dBm >> - 10 MHz Outputs - ~1.4 Vpp Square Wave, Impedance 50 ohm nominal >> - 1 PPS Input - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V >> - 1 PPS Outputs - Logic-level pulse, 2.5 V - 5 V >> >> >> >> -- >> > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list -- usrp-users@lists.ettus.com > To unsubscribe send an email to usrp-users-leave@lists.ettus.com > > The Octoclock is basically a *distributor* of PPS and 10MHz. It cannot use > the 1PPS to phase-lock its internal clock. > > For the 10MHz signal from your time-provider, I would insert a 3-5dB > attenuator, since the lowest level of the > TimeProvider output is right at the top end of what the Octoclock can > tolerate. > > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list -- usrp-users@lists.ettus.com > To unsubscribe send an email to usrp-users-leave@lists.ettus.com >