On 10/29/2010 01:36 PM, Steven Kelly wrote:
Which Smalltalks (+/- add-on projects) have code in class files,
interface with standard VCS
Smalltalk/X supports CVS and SubVersion.
and yet still have an image-based, GUI IDE?
Smalltalk/X for instance :-)
Thanks! But to return to my criteria:
- what everybody else is using
- what seems familiar to them
- what is cool
- what is good
Even in the Smalltalk community, Smalltalk/X isn't 1). And looking at
the web pages, with not even a single picture of the IDE or Smalltalk/X
applications on the Products > Smalltalk/X pages, it may find itself in
pretty big trouble on 3). That's a real shame, in an era when even
one-person companies and research projects have smart videos showing off
their products. Particularly since from what I hear, Smalltalk/X does
pretty well on 4).
Sorry if that sounds harsh - I do understand the other side of the coin,
i.e. that there's hardly any money to be made by selling software
development environments these days. Good luck to eXept with expecco,
which I guess is what they focus on now.
Steve
Jan Vrany wrote:
> > On 10/29/2010 01:36 PM, Steven Kelly wrote:
> > > Which Smalltalks (+/- add-on projects) have code in class files,
> > > interface with standard VCS
>
> Smalltalk/X supports CVS and SubVersion.
>
> > > and yet still have an image-based, GUI IDE?
>
> Smalltalk/X for instance :-)
Thanks! But to return to my criteria:
1) what everybody else is using
2) what seems familiar to them
3) what is cool
4) what is good
Even in the Smalltalk community, Smalltalk/X isn't 1). And looking at
the web pages, with not even a single picture of the IDE or Smalltalk/X
applications on the Products > Smalltalk/X pages, it may find itself in
pretty big trouble on 3). That's a real shame, in an era when even
one-person companies and research projects have smart videos showing off
their products. Particularly since from what I hear, Smalltalk/X does
pretty well on 4).
Sorry if that sounds harsh - I do understand the other side of the coin,
i.e. that there's hardly any money to be made by selling software
development environments these days. Good luck to eXept with expecco,
which I guess is what they focus on now.
Steve