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Hans Rengman
Thu, Oct 22, 2009 6:47 AM

Hi

Below You will find some comments from looking at 0.1 and 0.2

/hans r


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feedback and comments from Hans Rengman, META, Sweden - hans@meta.se

0.1


swedish diacritic characters "åäö" seems to work fine from my environment
(PC - win xp - Firefox)
http://demo.collectionspace.org:8080/cspace-ui/html/objectentry.html?objectId=12345

but not from Murberget , county museum of wasternorrland
()
http://demo.collectionspace.org:8080/cspace-ui/html/objectentry.html?objectId=m45.56


ACCESSION NUMBER

the history/tradition of giving "accession
number"/"inventory number" is not that
standardised here as it might look from Your examples and guidelines:
1
year.acquisition.number.part - systems with variations

2
a clean series of running numbers (MM12345)

3
other locally defined structure. (including
letters showing parts of collections etc as part
of the number.) (including /-_&% etc which might be system critic symbols)

1 and 3 forms a djungle and might not be as
structured as it looks at the first -

The discussion since 1980-ies form two schools,
either that the number is just an identifier of
the object - bearing no coded information. This
viewpoint is furthermore avoiding subnumbers as
long as possible. You can find this model
represented in quite a lot of regional museums.
...or the more structured (rigid) way of
presuming a pre-knowledge in interpreting information.

Related to this is the numbering of images of
objects - where museums either use the object
accession nr as identity for the first image,
then adding .a or .1 or other suffix for extra
images OR maintaining images in a serie of its
own with structured or running number format -

Analysis:
Experiences tells us that accession number/
inventory number fields MUST be handled as a free
format - (or even better - possible to local
customisation (like the "system generated number
setup" -  of input rules (more than one syntax
allowed since routines have changed over time)

...and that object id-number and images id-number
(free format) must be possible to interconnect in many-to-many relationships.

===================

0.2

Very comprehensive forms - There is a lot of
terms which are not intuitive in english to a
swedish user - I think this points to two problem areas.
1
"real" translation - finding wlee vorking equivalents to terminology used...

2
discussing "cultural" differences in context and
concept - curatorial traditions and legal issues colouring terminology.

I will gladly take part in these areas!
a "wordbook" of system terminology acn be useful for interoperability.

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hans rengman


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Hi Below You will find some comments from looking at 0.1 and 0.2 /hans r *************************************** collectionspace -------------- feedback and comments from Hans Rengman, META, Sweden - hans@meta.se 0.1 ------------------------------ swedish diacritic characters "åäö" seems to work fine from my environment (PC - win xp - Firefox) http://demo.collectionspace.org:8080/cspace-ui/html/objectentry.html?objectId=12345 but not from Murberget , county museum of wasternorrland () http://demo.collectionspace.org:8080/cspace-ui/html/objectentry.html?objectId=m45.56 ------------------------------- ACCESSION NUMBER the history/tradition of giving "accession number"/"inventory number" is not that standardised here as it might look from Your examples and guidelines: 1 year.acquisition.number.part - systems with variations 2 a clean series of running numbers (MM12345) 3 other locally defined structure. (including letters showing parts of collections etc as part of the number.) (including /-_&% etc which might be system critic symbols) 1 and 3 forms a djungle and might not be as structured as it looks at the first - The discussion since 1980-ies form two schools, either that the number is just an identifier of the object - bearing no coded information. This viewpoint is furthermore avoiding subnumbers as long as possible. You can find this model represented in quite a lot of regional museums. ...or the more structured (rigid) way of presuming a pre-knowledge in interpreting information. Related to this is the numbering of images of objects - where museums either use the object accession nr as identity for the first image, then adding .a or .1 or other suffix for extra images OR maintaining images in a serie of its own with structured or running number format - Analysis: Experiences tells us that accession number/ inventory number fields MUST be handled as a free format - (or even better - possible to local customisation (like the "system generated number setup" - of input rules (more than one syntax allowed since routines have changed over time) ...and that object id-number and images id-number (free format) must be possible to interconnect in many-to-many relationships. =================== 0.2 Very comprehensive forms - There is a lot of terms which are not intuitive in english to a swedish user - I think this points to two problem areas. 1 "real" translation - finding wlee vorking equivalents to terminology used... 2 discussing "cultural" differences in context and concept - curatorial traditions and legal issues colouring terminology. I will gladly take part in these areas! a "wordbook" of system terminology acn be useful for interoperability. ========================= hans rengman ***************************************************************** * META - Kunskap om kunskap Hans Rengman * *'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''* * www.meta.se hans@meta.se * * * * Hovslagaregatan 11 tel: +46 (0)522 - 51 10 94 * * SE-451 44 Uddevalla * * Sweden GSM: +46 (0)70 - 718 23 25 * *********** P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ************