Exactly David. And if the photographer has sufficient wine in him, it works there too. But seriously, this time I turned the boat and moved it right near the bank, and sunk her on top of a ridge which helped with the tilt. Last year she was tilted around 29 degrees, this time it's about 20ish. Fred Tug 44 ---------------------------------------- From: DavidDoy@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:03 PM To: fred@tug44.org, pwseapa45@gmail.com, great-loop@lists.trawlering.com Subject: Re: GL: Winter Storage I think I grasp the concept now. No matter how far over you tilt the bottle the ingredients stay level. David