[CITASA] NEW BOOK ANNOUNCEMENT Manga in America: Transnational Book Publishing and the Domestication of Japanese Comics

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Casey Brienza
Sat, Feb 13, 2016 1:20 PM

Apologies for cross-posting!

Manga in America: Transnational Book Publishing and the Domestication of
Japanese Comics, by Casey Brienza

Published by Bloomsbury, January 2016

Summary: Japanese manga comic books have attracted a devoted global
following. In the popular press manga is said to have "invaded" and
"conquered" the United States, and its success is held up as a
quintessential example of the globalization of popular culture challenging
American hegemony in the twenty-first century.

In Manga in America - the first ever book-length study of the history,
structure, and practices of the American manga publishing industry - Casey
Brienza explodes this assumption. Drawing on extensive field research and
interviews with industry insiders about licensing deals, processes of
translation, adaptation, and marketing, new digital publishing and
distribution models, and more, Brienza shows that the transnational
production of culture is an active, labor-intensive, and oft-contested
process of "domestication." Ultimately, Manga in America argues that the
domestication of manga reinforces the very same imbalances of national
power that might otherwise seem to have been transformed by it and that the
success of Japanese manga in the United States actually serves to make
manga everywhere more American.

About the Author: Casey Brienza is Lecturer in the Department of Sociology
and Centre for Culture and the Creative Industries at City University
London, UK. She is also editor of Global Manga: "Japanese" Comics without
Japan? (2015).

Table of Contents:

  1. Introduction
  2. Theorizing Domestication: Manga and the Transnational Production of
    Culture
  3. Book Trade: History and Structure of U.S. Manga Publishing
  4. A License to Produce: Founding Companies, Negotiating Rights
  5. Working from Home: Editors, Translators, Letterers, and Other Invisibles
  6. Off the Page: New Publishing Models for a Digital Future
  7. Conclusion: Making Manga American
    Appendix: House Calls - Notes on Research Methodology
    Glossary
    Bibliography
    Index

Publisher Webpage and Ordering Information:
http://www.bloomsbury.com/us/manga-in-america-9781472595874/
http://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/manga-in-america-9781472595874/


Casey Brienza | Twitter: @CaseyBrienza https://twitter.com/CaseyBrienza |
Website: http://www.caseybrienza.com

Apologies for cross-posting! Manga in America: Transnational Book Publishing and the Domestication of Japanese Comics, by Casey Brienza Published by Bloomsbury, January 2016 Summary: Japanese manga comic books have attracted a devoted global following. In the popular press manga is said to have "invaded" and "conquered" the United States, and its success is held up as a quintessential example of the globalization of popular culture challenging American hegemony in the twenty-first century. In Manga in America - the first ever book-length study of the history, structure, and practices of the American manga publishing industry - Casey Brienza explodes this assumption. Drawing on extensive field research and interviews with industry insiders about licensing deals, processes of translation, adaptation, and marketing, new digital publishing and distribution models, and more, Brienza shows that the transnational production of culture is an active, labor-intensive, and oft-contested process of "domestication." Ultimately, Manga in America argues that the domestication of manga reinforces the very same imbalances of national power that might otherwise seem to have been transformed by it and that the success of Japanese manga in the United States actually serves to make manga everywhere more American. About the Author: Casey Brienza is Lecturer in the Department of Sociology and Centre for Culture and the Creative Industries at City University London, UK. She is also editor of Global Manga: "Japanese" Comics without Japan? (2015). Table of Contents: 1. Introduction 2. Theorizing Domestication: Manga and the Transnational Production of Culture 3. Book Trade: History and Structure of U.S. Manga Publishing 4. A License to Produce: Founding Companies, Negotiating Rights 5. Working from Home: Editors, Translators, Letterers, and Other Invisibles 6. Off the Page: New Publishing Models for a Digital Future 7. Conclusion: Making Manga American Appendix: House Calls - Notes on Research Methodology Glossary Bibliography Index Publisher Webpage and Ordering Information: http://www.bloomsbury.com/us/manga-in-america-9781472595874/ <http://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/manga-in-america-9781472595874/> ______________________ Casey Brienza | Twitter: @CaseyBrienza <https://twitter.com/CaseyBrienza> | Website: http://www.caseybrienza.com
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Alladi Venkatesh
Tue, Feb 23, 2016 8:02 AM

Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital consumption" to an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a friendly note to the editor stating that
the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is history....I don't
have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly worse...so I am now in a fix and am looking for an appropriate term...

Any thoughts?

Alladi Venkatesh

Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital consumption" to an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a friendly note to the editor stating that the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is history....I don't have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly worse...so I am now in a fix and am looking for an appropriate term... Any thoughts? Alladi Venkatesh
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Deborah.Lupton
Tue, Feb 23, 2016 8:11 AM

Hi

I think 'digital' is a way better term than any other offerings - certainly less unwieldy than 'ICTs'. 'Cyber' is even more dated, and 'virtual' has its own meaning.

Deborah

Deborah Lupton, Centenary Research Professor
News & Media Research Centre
Faculty of Arts & Design
Bldg 9, Room 9C9
University of Canberra
Bruce 2601
Australia (Australian Government Higher Education Registered Provider (CRICOS) #00212K)
Latest books:  The Quantified Self (2016), Digital Sociology (2015), Risk, 2nd edition (2013), Fat (2013), The Social Worlds of the Unborn (2013), The Unborn Human (edited, 2013).
Blog: This Sociological Life
Twitter: @DALupton


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Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital consumption" to an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a friendly note to the editor stating that
the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is history....I don't
have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly worse...so I am now in a fix and am looking for an appropriate term...

Any thoughts?

Alladi Venkatesh


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Hi I think 'digital' is a way better term than any other offerings - certainly less unwieldy than 'ICTs'. 'Cyber' is even more dated, and 'virtual' has its own meaning. Deborah Deborah Lupton, Centenary Research Professor News & Media Research Centre Faculty of Arts & Design Bldg 9, Room 9C9 University of Canberra Bruce 2601 Australia (Australian Government Higher Education Registered Provider (CRICOS) #00212K) Latest books: The Quantified Self (2016), Digital Sociology (2015), Risk, 2nd edition (2013), Fat (2013), The Social Worlds of the Unborn (2013), The Unborn Human (edited, 2013). Blog: This Sociological Life Twitter: @DALupton ________________________________________ From: CITASA <citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org> on behalf of Alladi Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edu> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:02 PM To: citasa@list.citasa.org Cc: citasa@list.citasa.org Subject: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital consumption" to an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a friendly note to the editor stating that the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is history....I don't have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly worse...so I am now in a fix and am looking for an appropriate term... Any thoughts? Alladi Venkatesh _______________________________________________ CITASA mailing list CITASA@list.citasa.org http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org
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Alladi Venkatesh
Tue, Feb 23, 2016 8:19 AM

Thank you...you are probably right and I do respect your thoughts.. I will wait for a few more comments, if any..I do realize there is not much to choose from..

AV

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On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:12 AM, "Deborah.Lupton" Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au wrote:

Hi

I think 'digital' is a way better term than any other offerings - certainly less unwieldy than 'ICTs'. 'Cyber' is even more dated, and 'virtual' has its own meaning.

Deborah

Deborah Lupton, Centenary Research Professor
News & Media Research Centre
Faculty of Arts & Design
Bldg 9, Room 9C9
University of Canberra
Bruce 2601
Australia (Australian Government Higher Education Registered Provider (CRICOS) #00212K)
Latest books:  The Quantified Self (2016), Digital Sociology (2015), Risk, 2nd edition (2013), Fat (2013), The Social Worlds of the Unborn (2013), The Unborn Human (edited, 2013).
Blog: This Sociological Life
Twitter: @DALupton


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Subject: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice

Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital consumption" to an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a friendly note to the editor stating that
the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is history....I don't
have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly worse...so I am now in a fix and am looking for an appropriate term...

Any thoughts?

Alladi Venkatesh


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Thank you...you are probably right and I do respect your thoughts.. I will wait for a few more comments, if any..I do realize there is not much to choose from.. AV Sent from my iPad > On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:12 AM, "Deborah.Lupton" <Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au> wrote: > > Hi > > I think 'digital' is a way better term than any other offerings - certainly less unwieldy than 'ICTs'. 'Cyber' is even more dated, and 'virtual' has its own meaning. > > Deborah > > Deborah Lupton, Centenary Research Professor > News & Media Research Centre > Faculty of Arts & Design > Bldg 9, Room 9C9 > University of Canberra > Bruce 2601 > Australia (Australian Government Higher Education Registered Provider (CRICOS) #00212K) > Latest books: The Quantified Self (2016), Digital Sociology (2015), Risk, 2nd edition (2013), Fat (2013), The Social Worlds of the Unborn (2013), The Unborn Human (edited, 2013). > Blog: This Sociological Life > Twitter: @DALupton > > > ________________________________________ > From: CITASA <citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org> on behalf of Alladi Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edu> > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:02 PM > To: citasa@list.citasa.org > Cc: citasa@list.citasa.org > Subject: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice > > Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital consumption" to an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a friendly note to the editor stating that > the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is history....I don't > have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly worse...so I am now in a fix and am looking for an appropriate term... > > Any thoughts? > > Alladi Venkatesh > _______________________________________________ > CITASA mailing list > CITASA@list.citasa.org > http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org
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Saskia Sassen
Tue, Feb 23, 2016 12:26 PM

i agree--digital is by far the best...Its actual meaning is of course
narrower than the way the concept is deployed, but that is ok.
saskia

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Alladi Venkatesh avenkate@uci.edu wrote:

Thank you...you are probably right and I do respect your thoughts.. I will
wait for a few more comments, if any..I do realize there is not much to
choose from..

AV

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:12 AM, "Deborah.Lupton" <

Hi

I think 'digital' is a way better term than any other offerings -

certainly less unwieldy than 'ICTs'. 'Cyber' is even more dated, and
'virtual' has its own meaning.

Deborah

Deborah Lupton, Centenary Research Professor
News & Media Research Centre
Faculty of Arts & Design
Bldg 9, Room 9C9
University of Canberra
Bruce 2601
Australia (Australian Government Higher Education Registered Provider

(CRICOS) #00212K)

Latest books:  The Quantified Self (2016), Digital Sociology (2015),

Risk, 2nd edition (2013), Fat (2013), The Social Worlds of the Unborn
(2013), The Unborn Human (edited, 2013).

Blog: This Sociological Life
Twitter: @DALupton


From: CITASA citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org on behalf of Alladi

Venkatesh avenkate@uci.edu

Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:02 PM
To: citasa@list.citasa.org
Cc: citasa@list.citasa.org
Subject: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice

Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital consumption" to

an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a friendly note to the editor
stating that

the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is history....I don't
have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly worse...so I am now

in a fix and am looking for an appropriate term...

--
Saskia Sassen
Robert S. Lynd Professor of Sociology
Department of Sociology and
Committee on Global Thought
Columbia University
Knox Hall 713
606 W. 122nd St.
New York, NY 10027
T - 212.854.0790  F - 212.854.2963
sjs2@columbia.edu
www.saskiasassen.com    http://cgt.columbia.edu

i agree--digital is by far the best...Its actual meaning is of course narrower than the way the concept is deployed, but that is ok. saskia On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Alladi Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edu> wrote: > Thank you...you are probably right and I do respect your thoughts.. I will > wait for a few more comments, if any..I do realize there is not much to > choose from.. > > AV > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:12 AM, "Deborah.Lupton" < > Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au> wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > I think 'digital' is a way better term than any other offerings - > certainly less unwieldy than 'ICTs'. 'Cyber' is even more dated, and > 'virtual' has its own meaning. > > > > Deborah > > > > Deborah Lupton, Centenary Research Professor > > News & Media Research Centre > > Faculty of Arts & Design > > Bldg 9, Room 9C9 > > University of Canberra > > Bruce 2601 > > Australia (Australian Government Higher Education Registered Provider > (CRICOS) #00212K) > > Latest books: The Quantified Self (2016), Digital Sociology (2015), > Risk, 2nd edition (2013), Fat (2013), The Social Worlds of the Unborn > (2013), The Unborn Human (edited, 2013). > > Blog: This Sociological Life > > Twitter: @DALupton > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: CITASA <citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org> on behalf of Alladi > Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edu> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:02 PM > > To: citasa@list.citasa.org > > Cc: citasa@list.citasa.org > > Subject: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice > > > > Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital consumption" to > an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a friendly note to the editor > stating that > > the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is history....I don't > > have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly worse...so I am now > in a fix and am looking for an appropriate term... > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Alladi Venkatesh > > _______________________________________________ > > CITASA mailing list > > CITASA@list.citasa.org > > http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org > > _______________________________________________ > CITASA mailing list > CITASA@list.citasa.org > http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org > -- Saskia Sassen Robert S. Lynd Professor of Sociology Department of Sociology and Committee on Global Thought Columbia University Knox Hall 713 606 W. 122nd St. New York, NY 10027 T - 212.854.0790 F - 212.854.2963 sjs2@columbia.edu www.saskiasassen.com http://cgt.columbia.edu
DJ
Davis, Jennifer Lauren - davis5jl
Tue, Feb 23, 2016 5:32 PM

I Agree with digital as a generally decent option. Given that the book is about "new media" you may also use

"New Media Prosumption." This gets around some of the language problems and captures the multi-directional nature of content creation

Best,
Jenny

Jenny L. Davis
Assistant Professor of Sociology
James Madison University
Co-Editor: Cyborgology.orghttp://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/
Twitter: @Jenny_L_Davishttps://twitter.com/Jenny_L_Davis


From: CITASA [citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org] on behalf of Saskia Sassen [sjs2@columbia.edu]
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i agree--digital is by far the best...Its actual meaning is of course narrower than the way the concept is deployed, but that is ok.
saskia

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Alladi Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edumailto:avenkate@uci.edu> wrote:
Thank you...you are probably right and I do respect your thoughts.. I will wait for a few more comments, if any..I do realize there is not much to choose from..

AV

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:12 AM, "Deborah.Lupton" <Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.aumailto:Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au> wrote:

Hi

I think 'digital' is a way better term than any other offerings - certainly less unwieldy than 'ICTs'. 'Cyber' is even more dated, and 'virtual' has its own meaning.

Deborah

Deborah Lupton, Centenary Research Professor
News & Media Research Centre
Faculty of Arts & Design
Bldg 9, Room 9C9
University of Canberra
Bruce 2601
Australia (Australian Government Higher Education Registered Provider (CRICOS) #00212K)
Latest books:  The Quantified Self (2016), Digital Sociology (2015), Risk, 2nd edition (2013), Fat (2013), The Social Worlds of the Unborn (2013), The Unborn Human (edited, 2013).
Blog: This Sociological Life
Twitter: @DALupton


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Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital consumption" to an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a friendly note to the editor stating that
the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is history....I don't
have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly worse...so I am now in a fix and am looking for an appropriate term...

Any thoughts?

Alladi Venkatesh


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I Agree with digital as a generally decent option. Given that the book is about "new media" you may also use "New Media Prosumption." This gets around some of the language problems and captures the multi-directional nature of content creation Best, Jenny Jenny L. Davis Assistant Professor of Sociology James Madison University Co-Editor: Cyborgology.org<http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/> Twitter: @Jenny_L_Davis<https://twitter.com/Jenny_L_Davis> ________________________________ From: CITASA [citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org] on behalf of Saskia Sassen [sjs2@columbia.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:26 AM To: Alladi Venkatesh Cc: citasa@list.citasa.org Subject: Re: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice i agree--digital is by far the best...Its actual meaning is of course narrower than the way the concept is deployed, but that is ok. saskia On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Alladi Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edu<mailto:avenkate@uci.edu>> wrote: Thank you...you are probably right and I do respect your thoughts.. I will wait for a few more comments, if any..I do realize there is not much to choose from.. AV Sent from my iPad > On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:12 AM, "Deborah.Lupton" <Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au<mailto:Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au>> wrote: > > Hi > > I think 'digital' is a way better term than any other offerings - certainly less unwieldy than 'ICTs'. 'Cyber' is even more dated, and 'virtual' has its own meaning. > > Deborah > > Deborah Lupton, Centenary Research Professor > News & Media Research Centre > Faculty of Arts & Design > Bldg 9, Room 9C9 > University of Canberra > Bruce 2601 > Australia (Australian Government Higher Education Registered Provider (CRICOS) #00212K) > Latest books: The Quantified Self (2016), Digital Sociology (2015), Risk, 2nd edition (2013), Fat (2013), The Social Worlds of the Unborn (2013), The Unborn Human (edited, 2013). > Blog: This Sociological Life > Twitter: @DALupton > > > ________________________________________ > From: CITASA <citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org<mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org>> on behalf of Alladi Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edu<mailto:avenkate@uci.edu>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:02 PM > To: citasa@list.citasa.org<mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org> > Cc: citasa@list.citasa.org<mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org> > Subject: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice > > Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital consumption" to an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a friendly note to the editor stating that > the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is history....I don't > have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly worse...so I am now in a fix and am looking for an appropriate term... > > Any thoughts? > > Alladi Venkatesh > _______________________________________________ > CITASA mailing list > CITASA@list.citasa.org<mailto:CITASA@list.citasa.org> > http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__list.citasa.org_mailman_listinfo_citasa-5Flist.citasa.org&d=BQMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=iLWI-3F9xeUYlZlWLgCzJA&m=66sFRNFN_cUNNmkopbn8b2-iGrhv1Hxg2OhUOCitQuI&s=NGrFtsuJxW-EFLk-dO0SRrYN_jwWdogjSep5LtSjFFQ&e=> _______________________________________________ CITASA mailing list CITASA@list.citasa.org<mailto:CITASA@list.citasa.org> http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__list.citasa.org_mailman_listinfo_citasa-5Flist.citasa.org&d=BQMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=iLWI-3F9xeUYlZlWLgCzJA&m=66sFRNFN_cUNNmkopbn8b2-iGrhv1Hxg2OhUOCitQuI&s=NGrFtsuJxW-EFLk-dO0SRrYN_jwWdogjSep5LtSjFFQ&e=> -- Saskia Sassen Robert S. Lynd Professor of Sociology Department of Sociology and Committee on Global Thought Columbia University Knox Hall 713 606 W. 122nd St. New York, NY 10027 T - 212.854.0790 F - 212.854.2963 sjs2@columbia.edu<mailto:sjs2@columbia.edu> www.saskiasassen.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.saskiasassen.com&d=BQMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=iLWI-3F9xeUYlZlWLgCzJA&m=66sFRNFN_cUNNmkopbn8b2-iGrhv1Hxg2OhUOCitQuI&s=7KpSehEMyawbdLcXyplyLo6HCkM8h1W3SvTJ6egXX7c&e=> http://cgt.columbia.edu<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cgt.columbia.edu&d=BQMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=iLWI-3F9xeUYlZlWLgCzJA&m=66sFRNFN_cUNNmkopbn8b2-iGrhv1Hxg2OhUOCitQuI&s=v8mbaHfdWeX-sC7RqvlcHlGrWsZpNyn0mPAlF-dQIns&e=>
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Tue, Feb 23, 2016 5:39 PM

always feel like adding digital cyber virtual etc is misleading and wrong
(assumes the web as a separate sphere, downplays the degree all eg
consumption is digital and all consumption via the screen isn't just
digital and so on). one way around the problem is reframing it as
"consumption and the web" or "digitality and the web" :)

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Davis, Jennifer Lauren - davis5jl <
davis5jl@jmu.edu> wrote:

I Agree with digital as a generally decent option. Given that the book is
about "new media" you may also use

"New Media Prosumption." This gets around some of the language problems
and captures the multi-directional nature of content creation

Best,
Jenny

Jenny L. Davis
Assistant Professor of Sociology
James Madison University
Co-Editor: Cyborgology.org http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/
Twitter: @Jenny_L_Davis https://twitter.com/Jenny_L_Davis

From: CITASA [citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org] on behalf of Saskia
Sassen [sjs2@columbia.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:26 AM
To: Alladi Venkatesh
Cc: citasa@list.citasa.org
Subject: Re: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice

i agree--digital is by far the best...Its actual meaning is of course
narrower than the way the concept is deployed, but that is ok.
saskia

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Alladi Venkatesh avenkate@uci.edu
wrote:

Thank you...you are probably right and I do respect your thoughts.. I
will wait for a few more comments, if any..I do realize there is not much
to choose from..

AV

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:12 AM, "Deborah.Lupton" <

Hi

I think 'digital' is a way better term than any other offerings -

certainly less unwieldy than 'ICTs'. 'Cyber' is even more dated, and
'virtual' has its own meaning.

Deborah

Deborah Lupton, Centenary Research Professor
News & Media Research Centre
Faculty of Arts & Design
Bldg 9, Room 9C9
University of Canberra
Bruce 2601
Australia (Australian Government Higher Education Registered Provider

(CRICOS) #00212K)

Latest books:  The Quantified Self (2016), Digital Sociology (2015),

Risk, 2nd edition (2013), Fat (2013), The Social Worlds of the Unborn
(2013), The Unborn Human (edited, 2013).

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Twitter: @DALupton


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Venkatesh avenkate@uci.edu

Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:02 PM
To: citasa@list.citasa.org
Cc: citasa@list.citasa.org
Subject: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice

Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital consumption"

to an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a friendly note to the editor
stating that

the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is history....I don't
have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly worse...so I am now

in a fix and am looking for an appropriate term...

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Department of Sociology and
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always feel like adding digital cyber virtual etc is misleading and wrong (assumes the web as a separate sphere, downplays the degree all eg consumption is digital and all consumption via the screen isn't just digital and so on). one way around the problem is reframing it as "consumption and the web" or "digitality and the web" :) On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Davis, Jennifer Lauren - davis5jl < davis5jl@jmu.edu> wrote: > I Agree with digital as a generally decent option. Given that the book is > about "new media" you may also use > > "New Media Prosumption." This gets around some of the language problems > and captures the multi-directional nature of content creation > > Best, > Jenny > > Jenny L. Davis > Assistant Professor of Sociology > James Madison University > Co-Editor: Cyborgology.org <http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/> > Twitter: @Jenny_L_Davis <https://twitter.com/Jenny_L_Davis> > ------------------------------ > *From:* CITASA [citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org] on behalf of Saskia > Sassen [sjs2@columbia.edu] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:26 AM > *To:* Alladi Venkatesh > *Cc:* citasa@list.citasa.org > *Subject:* Re: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice > > i agree--digital is by far the best...Its actual meaning is of course > narrower than the way the concept is deployed, but that is ok. > saskia > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Alladi Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edu> > wrote: > >> Thank you...you are probably right and I do respect your thoughts.. I >> will wait for a few more comments, if any..I do realize there is not much >> to choose from.. >> >> AV >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:12 AM, "Deborah.Lupton" < >> Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au> wrote: >> > >> > Hi >> > >> > I think 'digital' is a way better term than any other offerings - >> certainly less unwieldy than 'ICTs'. 'Cyber' is even more dated, and >> 'virtual' has its own meaning. >> > >> > Deborah >> > >> > Deborah Lupton, Centenary Research Professor >> > News & Media Research Centre >> > Faculty of Arts & Design >> > Bldg 9, Room 9C9 >> > University of Canberra >> > Bruce 2601 >> > Australia (Australian Government Higher Education Registered Provider >> (CRICOS) #00212K) >> > Latest books: The Quantified Self (2016), Digital Sociology (2015), >> Risk, 2nd edition (2013), Fat (2013), The Social Worlds of the Unborn >> (2013), The Unborn Human (edited, 2013). >> > Blog: This Sociological Life >> > Twitter: @DALupton >> > >> > >> > ________________________________________ >> > From: CITASA <citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org> on behalf of Alladi >> Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edu> >> > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:02 PM >> > To: citasa@list.citasa.org >> > Cc: citasa@list.citasa.org >> > Subject: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice >> > >> > Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital consumption" >> to an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a friendly note to the editor >> stating that >> > the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is history....I don't >> > have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly worse...so I am now >> in a fix and am looking for an appropriate term... >> > >> > Any thoughts? >> > >> > Alladi Venkatesh >> > _______________________________________________ >> > CITASA mailing list >> > CITASA@list.citasa.org >> > http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__list.citasa.org_mailman_listinfo_citasa-5Flist.citasa.org&d=BQMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=iLWI-3F9xeUYlZlWLgCzJA&m=66sFRNFN_cUNNmkopbn8b2-iGrhv1Hxg2OhUOCitQuI&s=NGrFtsuJxW-EFLk-dO0SRrYN_jwWdogjSep5LtSjFFQ&e=> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CITASA mailing list >> CITASA@list.citasa.org >> http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__list.citasa.org_mailman_listinfo_citasa-5Flist.citasa.org&d=BQMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=iLWI-3F9xeUYlZlWLgCzJA&m=66sFRNFN_cUNNmkopbn8b2-iGrhv1Hxg2OhUOCitQuI&s=NGrFtsuJxW-EFLk-dO0SRrYN_jwWdogjSep5LtSjFFQ&e=> >> > > > > -- > Saskia Sassen > Robert S. 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On 23/02/2016 17:39, nathan jurgenson wrote:

always feel like adding digital cyber virtual etc is misleading and
wrong (assumes the web as a separate sphere, downplays the degree all eg
consumption is digital and all consumption via the screen isn't just
digital and so on). one way around the problem is reframing it as
"consumption and the web" or "digitality and the web" :)

In which respect is all consumption digital? Or is it some consumption
that is digitally mediated and some consumption is the consumption of
digital products? But all consumption digital? Someone eating a
cheese-sandwich sitting on a meadow cannot be said to be digital
consumption... The act of eating is not digital and also the sandwich
and the chesse are not digital...
C.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Davis, Jennifer Lauren - davis5jl
<davis5jl@jmu.edu mailto:davis5jl@jmu.edu> wrote:

 I Agree with digital as a generally decent option. Given that the
 book is about "new media" you may also use

 "New Media Prosumption." This gets around some of the language
 problems and captures the multi-directional nature of content creation

 Best,
 Jenny

 Jenny L. Davis
 Assistant Professor of Sociology
 James Madison University
 Co-Editor: Cyborgology.org <http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/>
 Twitter: @Jenny_L_Davis <https://twitter.com/Jenny_L_Davis>
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 *From:* CITASA [citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org
 <mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org>] on behalf of Saskia Sassen
 [sjs2@columbia.edu <mailto:sjs2@columbia.edu>]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:26 AM
 *To:* Alladi Venkatesh
 *Cc:* citasa@list.citasa.org <mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org>
 *Subject:* Re: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice

 i agree--digital is by far the best...Its actual meaning is of
 course narrower than the way the concept is deployed, but that is ok.
 saskia

 On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Alladi Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edu
 <mailto:avenkate@uci.edu>> wrote:

     Thank you...you are probably right and I do respect your
     thoughts.. I will wait for a few more comments, if any..I do
     realize there is not much to choose from..

     AV

     Sent from my iPad

On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:12 AM, "Deborah.Lupton"

     <Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au
     <mailto:Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au>> wrote:

Hi

I think 'digital' is a way better term than any other

     offerings - certainly less unwieldy than 'ICTs'. 'Cyber' is even
     more dated, and 'virtual' has its own meaning.

Deborah

Deborah Lupton, Centenary Research Professor
News & Media Research Centre
Faculty of Arts & Design
Bldg 9, Room 9C9
University of Canberra
Bruce 2601
Australia (Australian Government Higher Education Registered

     Provider (CRICOS) #00212K)

Latest books:  The Quantified Self (2016), Digital Sociology

     (2015), Risk, 2nd edition (2013), Fat (2013), The Social Worlds
     of the Unborn (2013), The Unborn Human (edited, 2013).

Blog: This Sociological Life
Twitter: @DALupton


From: CITASA <citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org

     <mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org>> on behalf of Alladi
     Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edu <mailto:avenkate@uci.edu>>

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To: citasa@list.citasa.org mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org
Cc: citasa@list.citasa.org mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org
Subject: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice

Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital

     consumption" to an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a
     friendly note to the editor stating that

the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is

     history....I don't

have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly worse...so

     I am now in a fix and am looking for an appropriate term...

Any thoughts?

Alladi Venkatesh


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On 23/02/2016 17:39, nathan jurgenson wrote: > always feel like adding digital cyber virtual etc is misleading and > wrong (assumes the web as a separate sphere, downplays the degree all eg > consumption is digital and all consumption via the screen isn't just > digital and so on). one way around the problem is reframing it as > "consumption and the web" or "digitality and the web" :) In which respect is all consumption digital? Or is it some consumption that is digitally mediated and some consumption is the consumption of digital products? But all consumption digital? Someone eating a cheese-sandwich sitting on a meadow cannot be said to be digital consumption... The act of eating is not digital and also the sandwich and the chesse are not digital... C. > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Davis, Jennifer Lauren - davis5jl > <davis5jl@jmu.edu <mailto:davis5jl@jmu.edu>> wrote: > > I Agree with digital as a generally decent option. Given that the > book is about "new media" you may also use > > "New Media Prosumption." This gets around some of the language > problems and captures the multi-directional nature of content creation > > Best, > Jenny > > Jenny L. Davis > Assistant Professor of Sociology > James Madison University > Co-Editor: Cyborgology.org <http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/> > Twitter: @Jenny_L_Davis <https://twitter.com/Jenny_L_Davis> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* CITASA [citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org > <mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org>] on behalf of Saskia Sassen > [sjs2@columbia.edu <mailto:sjs2@columbia.edu>] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:26 AM > *To:* Alladi Venkatesh > *Cc:* citasa@list.citasa.org <mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org> > *Subject:* Re: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice > > i agree--digital is by far the best...Its actual meaning is of > course narrower than the way the concept is deployed, but that is ok. > saskia > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Alladi Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edu > <mailto:avenkate@uci.edu>> wrote: > > Thank you...you are probably right and I do respect your > thoughts.. I will wait for a few more comments, if any..I do > realize there is not much to choose from.. > > AV > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:12 AM, "Deborah.Lupton" > <Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au > <mailto:Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au>> wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > I think 'digital' is a way better term than any other > offerings - certainly less unwieldy than 'ICTs'. 'Cyber' is even > more dated, and 'virtual' has its own meaning. > > > > Deborah > > > > Deborah Lupton, Centenary Research Professor > > News & Media Research Centre > > Faculty of Arts & Design > > Bldg 9, Room 9C9 > > University of Canberra > > Bruce 2601 > > Australia (Australian Government Higher Education Registered > Provider (CRICOS) #00212K) > > Latest books: The Quantified Self (2016), Digital Sociology > (2015), Risk, 2nd edition (2013), Fat (2013), The Social Worlds > of the Unborn (2013), The Unborn Human (edited, 2013). > > Blog: This Sociological Life > > Twitter: @DALupton > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: CITASA <citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org > <mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org>> on behalf of Alladi > Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edu <mailto:avenkate@uci.edu>> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:02 PM > > To: citasa@list.citasa.org <mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org> > > Cc: citasa@list.citasa.org <mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org> > > Subject: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice > > > > Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital > consumption" to an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a > friendly note to the editor stating that > > the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is > history....I don't > > have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly worse...so > I am now in a fix and am looking for an appropriate term... > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Alladi Venkatesh > > _______________________________________________ > > CITASA mailing list > > CITASA@list.citasa.org <mailto:CITASA@list.citasa.org> > > > http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__list.citasa.org_mailman_listinfo_citasa-5Flist.citasa.org&d=BQMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=iLWI-3F9xeUYlZlWLgCzJA&m=66sFRNFN_cUNNmkopbn8b2-iGrhv1Hxg2OhUOCitQuI&s=NGrFtsuJxW-EFLk-dO0SRrYN_jwWdogjSep5LtSjFFQ&e=> > > _______________________________________________ > CITASA mailing list > CITASA@list.citasa.org <mailto:CITASA@list.citasa.org> > http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__list.citasa.org_mailman_listinfo_citasa-5Flist.citasa.org&d=BQMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=iLWI-3F9xeUYlZlWLgCzJA&m=66sFRNFN_cUNNmkopbn8b2-iGrhv1Hxg2OhUOCitQuI&s=NGrFtsuJxW-EFLk-dO0SRrYN_jwWdogjSep5LtSjFFQ&e=> > > > > > -- > Saskia Sassen > Robert S. 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NJ
Nick Judd
Tue, Feb 23, 2016 6:13 PM

"-- and the web" might be better if one is speaking only of what one
sees in one's browser + mobile browser.

"Web" as short for "World Wide Web" primarily refers to a combination of
three technologies: URLs/URIs, HTTP protocol, and HTML. Even in popular
usage, we separate the Web from the walled-garden experiences that both
a.) install software on a user device and b.) conceal any interaction
with the three above technologies from the user. Consider the "mobile
Web" (such as it is) versus "apps," for instance. Of course "apps" are
nontrivial when we are interested in experiences mediated by digital
technologies.

Given that we are interested in production and consumption, this could
be useful. For e.g., Instagram execs need not worry about how a user's
choice to install ad blocking software interrupts the exchanges they
want users to make. There is a larger set of behaviors available to a
user on the "web."

It might also be useful to allow some distinction between what people do
in such a mediated interaction versus an interaction in letters versus
face-to-face ...

Best Regards,

Nick Judd
Department of Sociology
The University of Chicago

On 02/23/2016 11:39 AM, nathan jurgenson wrote:

always feel like adding digital cyber virtual etc is misleading and
wrong (assumes the web as a separate sphere, downplays the degree all
eg consumption is digital and all consumption via the screen isn't
just digital and so on). one way around the problem is reframing it as
"consumption and the web" or "digitality and the web" :)

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Davis, Jennifer Lauren - davis5jl
<davis5jl@jmu.edu mailto:davis5jl@jmu.edu> wrote:

 I Agree with digital as a generally decent option. Given that the
 book is about "new media" you may also use

 "New Media Prosumption." This gets around some of the language
 problems and captures the multi-directional nature of content
 creation

 Best,
 Jenny

 Jenny L. Davis
 Assistant Professor of Sociology
 James Madison University
 Co-Editor: Cyborgology.org <http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/>
 Twitter: @Jenny_L_Davis <https://twitter.com/Jenny_L_Davis>
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 *From:* CITASA [citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org
 <mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org>] on behalf of Saskia
 Sassen [sjs2@columbia.edu <mailto:sjs2@columbia.edu>]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:26 AM
 *To:* Alladi Venkatesh
 *Cc:* citasa@list.citasa.org <mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org>
 *Subject:* Re: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice

 i agree--digital is by far the best...Its actual meaning is of
 course narrower than the way the concept is deployed, but that is ok.
 saskia

 On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Alladi Venkatesh
 <avenkate@uci.edu <mailto:avenkate@uci.edu>> wrote:

     Thank you...you are probably right and I do respect your
     thoughts.. I will wait for a few more comments, if any..I do
     realize there is not much to choose from..

     AV

     Sent from my iPad

On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:12 AM, "Deborah.Lupton"

     <Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au
     <mailto:Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au>> wrote:

Hi

I think 'digital' is a way better term than any other

     offerings - certainly less unwieldy than 'ICTs'. 'Cyber' is
     even more dated, and 'virtual' has its own meaning.

Deborah

Deborah Lupton, Centenary Research Professor
News & Media Research Centre
Faculty of Arts & Design
Bldg 9, Room 9C9
University of Canberra
Bruce 2601
Australia (Australian Government Higher Education Registered

     Provider (CRICOS) #00212K)

Latest books:  The Quantified Self (2016), Digital Sociology

     (2015), Risk, 2nd edition (2013), Fat (2013), The Social
     Worlds of the Unborn (2013), The Unborn Human (edited, 2013).

Blog: This Sociological Life
Twitter: @DALupton


From: CITASA <citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org

     <mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org>> on behalf of Alladi
     Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edu <mailto:avenkate@uci.edu>>

Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:02 PM
To: citasa@list.citasa.org mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org
Cc: citasa@list.citasa.org mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org
Subject: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice

Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital

     consumption" to an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a
     friendly note to the editor stating that

the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is

     history....I don't

have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly

     worse...so I am now in a fix and am looking for an appropriate
     term...

Any thoughts?

Alladi Venkatesh


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"-- and the web" might be better if one is speaking only of what one sees in one's browser + mobile browser. "Web" as short for "World Wide Web" primarily refers to a combination of three technologies: URLs/URIs, HTTP protocol, and HTML. Even in popular usage, we separate the Web from the walled-garden experiences that both a.) install software on a user device and b.) conceal any interaction with the three above technologies from the user. Consider the "mobile Web" (such as it is) versus "apps," for instance. Of course "apps" are nontrivial when we are interested in experiences mediated by digital technologies. Given that we are interested in production and consumption, this could be useful. For e.g., Instagram execs need not worry about how a user's choice to install ad blocking software interrupts the exchanges they want users to make. There is a larger set of behaviors available to a user on the "web." It might also be useful to allow some distinction between what people do in such a mediated interaction versus an interaction in letters versus face-to-face ... Best Regards, Nick Judd Department of Sociology The University of Chicago On 02/23/2016 11:39 AM, nathan jurgenson wrote: > always feel like adding digital cyber virtual etc is misleading and > wrong (assumes the web as a separate sphere, downplays the degree all > eg consumption is digital and all consumption via the screen isn't > just digital and so on). one way around the problem is reframing it as > "consumption and the web" or "digitality and the web" :) > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Davis, Jennifer Lauren - davis5jl > <davis5jl@jmu.edu <mailto:davis5jl@jmu.edu>> wrote: > > I Agree with digital as a generally decent option. Given that the > book is about "new media" you may also use > > "New Media Prosumption." This gets around some of the language > problems and captures the multi-directional nature of content > creation > > Best, > Jenny > > Jenny L. Davis > Assistant Professor of Sociology > James Madison University > Co-Editor: Cyborgology.org <http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/> > Twitter: @Jenny_L_Davis <https://twitter.com/Jenny_L_Davis> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* CITASA [citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org > <mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org>] on behalf of Saskia > Sassen [sjs2@columbia.edu <mailto:sjs2@columbia.edu>] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:26 AM > *To:* Alladi Venkatesh > *Cc:* citasa@list.citasa.org <mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org> > *Subject:* Re: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice > > i agree--digital is by far the best...Its actual meaning is of > course narrower than the way the concept is deployed, but that is ok. > saskia > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Alladi Venkatesh > <avenkate@uci.edu <mailto:avenkate@uci.edu>> wrote: > > Thank you...you are probably right and I do respect your > thoughts.. I will wait for a few more comments, if any..I do > realize there is not much to choose from.. > > AV > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:12 AM, "Deborah.Lupton" > <Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au > <mailto:Deborah.Lupton@canberra.edu.au>> wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > I think 'digital' is a way better term than any other > offerings - certainly less unwieldy than 'ICTs'. 'Cyber' is > even more dated, and 'virtual' has its own meaning. > > > > Deborah > > > > Deborah Lupton, Centenary Research Professor > > News & Media Research Centre > > Faculty of Arts & Design > > Bldg 9, Room 9C9 > > University of Canberra > > Bruce 2601 > > Australia (Australian Government Higher Education Registered > Provider (CRICOS) #00212K) > > Latest books: The Quantified Self (2016), Digital Sociology > (2015), Risk, 2nd edition (2013), Fat (2013), The Social > Worlds of the Unborn (2013), The Unborn Human (edited, 2013). > > Blog: This Sociological Life > > Twitter: @DALupton > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: CITASA <citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org > <mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org>> on behalf of Alladi > Venkatesh <avenkate@uci.edu <mailto:avenkate@uci.edu>> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:02 PM > > To: citasa@list.citasa.org <mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org> > > Cc: citasa@list.citasa.org <mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org> > > Subject: [CITASA] Need Sage Advice > > > > Recently I was asked to contribute a chapter on "digital > consumption" to an Edited book on new media etc. I sent a > friendly note to the editor stating that > > the word "digital" is so 2005 or thereabouts and is > history....I don't > > have a good substitute..."virtual" sounds slightly > worse...so I am now in a fix and am looking for an appropriate > term... > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Alladi Venkatesh > > _______________________________________________ > > CITASA mailing list > > CITASA@list.citasa.org <mailto:CITASA@list.citasa.org> > > > http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__list.citasa.org_mailman_listinfo_citasa-5Flist.citasa.org&d=BQMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=iLWI-3F9xeUYlZlWLgCzJA&m=66sFRNFN_cUNNmkopbn8b2-iGrhv1Hxg2OhUOCitQuI&s=NGrFtsuJxW-EFLk-dO0SRrYN_jwWdogjSep5LtSjFFQ&e=> > > _______________________________________________ > CITASA mailing list > CITASA@list.citasa.org <mailto:CITASA@list.citasa.org> > http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__list.citasa.org_mailman_listinfo_citasa-5Flist.citasa.org&d=BQMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=iLWI-3F9xeUYlZlWLgCzJA&m=66sFRNFN_cUNNmkopbn8b2-iGrhv1Hxg2OhUOCitQuI&s=NGrFtsuJxW-EFLk-dO0SRrYN_jwWdogjSep5LtSjFFQ&e=> > > > > > -- > Saskia Sassen > Robert S. 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