My name is Jean Pierre Dufour. My wife is Marie.
Malcom Tennant designed for us a catamaran: DOMINO.
http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/boatdesigns/149/Domino%2020.htm
DOMINO is currently under construction in Asuncion Paraguay
http://www.dreamperformance.com/DOMINO20.html
We hope for the boat to be delivered in a year.
We are moving to Paraguay on Oct 5 to supervise construction. During
that time we plan to also travel through S America.Then South Pacific
with DOMINIO.
We just opened our web site: http://www.dominocat.org
I saw Wild Wind in your net, I would love to get in touch with them.
I am glad to be back in touch.
Welcome aboard the List, Jean Pierre!
That's a good-looking boat. I like how the profile looks low,
especially for a 65-footer.
What made you decide on this particular design by Malcolm Tennant?
Where there any other designers on your short list?
How did you come to pick the builder in Paraguay?
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
Thank- you George for your wellcome message.
I'll try to answer your 2 questions, the short version.
Why this design?
I liked the idea of a trawler cat and I had seen Icebear and NewYorker in Passage Maker Magazine.
Then I was a a trawler fest in Long beach in 1999, I was talking to a man about my concept of the perfect boat, of course a catamaran, Something like the New Yorker, and soon, I realized the man was Malcom Tennant. After talking the rest of the day, I knew he could design my boat.
What I liked about Malcom is his theory: "Long and narrow and light"
We knew we wanted a boat for 2, long range, a boat to live at anchor, low price.
I told Malcom: "even longer and narrower" and "keep thing to the minimum"
And he designed Domino.
( at 66 feet, DOMINO is a small boat. Only 1 state room, 1 BR, 1 galley and 1 pilot room)
Why Paraguay?
I met Norman Hellmers, the CEO of DreamPerformance by chance while he was talking to Malcom Tennant a the Fort Lauderdale boat show in 2004. I liked the man. His company was mainly building airplane, but he wanted to start in the boat building business, and promised me he could built Domino cheaper and better than anybody else.
After getting different bids, he was 3 times cheaper than the other ones, actually the only one I could afford.
So far the quality of the workmanship for the lamination has been superb.I am anxious to see the installation of the hardware and the final product.
Jean Pierre.
Georgs Kolesnikovs georgs@powercatamaranworld.com wrote:
My name is Jean Pierre Dufour. My wife is Marie.
Malcom Tennant designed for us a catamaran: DOMINO.
http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/boatdesigns/149/Domino%2020.htm
DOMINO is currently under construction in Asuncion Paraguay
http://www.dreamperformance.com/DOMINO20.html
We hope for the boat to be delivered in a year.
We are moving to Paraguay on Oct 5 to supervise construction. During
that time we plan to also travel through S America.Then South Pacific
with DOMINIO.
We just opened our web site: http://www.dominocat.org
I saw Wild Wind in your net, I would love to get in touch with them.
I am glad to be back in touch.
Welcome aboard the List, Jean Pierre!
That's a good-looking boat. I like how the profile looks low,
especially for a 65-footer.
What made you decide on this particular design by Malcolm Tennant?
Where there any other designers on your short list?
How did you come to pick the builder in Paraguay?
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
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Jean Pierre,
I like your concept of a long small boat. I wonder if you could comment on some of the things you and Malcolm have done in regards to systems design to keep the boat light, simple, and maintainable yet affording some level of comfort and livability for long range cruising. (I do realize all of those terms are relative).
Thanks
Mark
Marina del Rey, CA
jean-pierre dufour jpjdufour@yahoo.com wrote: Thank- you George for your wellcome message.
I'll try to answer your 2 questions, the short version.
Why this design?
I liked the idea of a trawler cat and I had seen Icebear and NewYorker in Passage Maker Magazine.
Then I was a a trawler fest in Long beach in 1999, I was talking to a man about my concept of the perfect boat, of course a catamaran, Something like the New Yorker, and soon, I realized the man was Malcom Tennant. After talking the rest of the day, I knew he could design my boat.
What I liked about Malcom is his theory: "Long and narrow and light"
We knew we wanted a boat for 2, long range, a boat to live at anchor, low price.
I told Malcom: "even longer and narrower" and "keep thing to the minimum"
And he designed Domino.
( at 66 feet, DOMINO is a small boat. Only 1 state room, 1 BR, 1 galley and 1 pilot room)
Why Paraguay?
I met Norman Hellmers, the CEO of DreamPerformance by chance while he was talking to Malcom Tennant a the Fort Lauderdale boat show in 2004. I liked the man. His company was mainly building airplane, but he wanted to start in the boat building business, and promised me he could built Domino cheaper and better than anybody else.
After getting different bids, he was 3 times cheaper than the other ones, actually the only one I could afford.
So far the quality of the workmanship for the lamination has been superb.I am anxious to see the installation of the hardware and the final product.
Jean Pierre.
Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
My name is Jean Pierre Dufour. My wife is Marie.
Malcom Tennant designed for us a catamaran: DOMINO.
http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/boatdesigns/149/Domino%2020.htm
DOMINO is currently under construction in Asuncion Paraguay
http://www.dreamperformance.com/DOMINO20.html
We hope for the boat to be delivered in a year.
We are moving to Paraguay on Oct 5 to supervise construction. During
that time we plan to also travel through S America.Then South Pacific
with DOMINIO.
We just opened our web site: http://www.dominocat.org
I saw Wild Wind in your net, I would love to get in touch with them.
I am glad to be back in touch.
Welcome aboard the List, Jean Pierre!
That's a good-looking boat. I like how the profile looks low,
especially for a 65-footer.
What made you decide on this particular design by Malcolm Tennant?
Where there any other designers on your short list?
How did you come to pick the builder in Paraguay?
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
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Mark.
First, have you checked Tennant site? It says a lot about Domino.
'We just eliminate everything that is not necessary:
-Only 1 BR.
-No dishwasher no washer dryer.
-Only 1 small AC for the pilot house. If we need Ac to sleep, we have a flap instaled that can divert the cold air to the stateroom. Since we will be anchored most the time we plan to use natural ventilation,
Other than that, I think we have everything: Fridge, Freezer, Genset, solar panel,wash down pump, a bait tank, Full galley, a built in BBQ on the aft deck, All the electronic, and I wanted the best anchoring system possible: we'll have a Rocna 55 and a Rocna 70 with rope chain combo and 2 widlasses Maxwell 4000. The engines are John Deere 6081, 300 HP. No compromise on the essential.
Cheers.
Jean Pierre.
Mark mark424x@yahoo.com wrote:
Jean Pierre,
I like your concept of a long small boat. I wonder if you could comment on some of the things you and Malcolm have done in regards to systems design to keep the boat light, simple, and maintainable yet affording some level of comfort and livability for long range cruising. (I do realize all of those terms are relative).
Thanks
Mark
Marina del Rey, CA
jean-pierre dufour wrote: Thank- you George for your wellcome message.
I'll try to answer your 2 questions, the short version.
Why this design?
I liked the idea of a trawler cat and I had seen Icebear and NewYorker in Passage Maker Magazine.
Then I was a a trawler fest in Long beach in 1999, I was talking to a man about my concept of the perfect boat, of course a catamaran, Something like the New Yorker, and soon, I realized the man was Malcom Tennant. After talking the rest of the day, I knew he could design my boat.
What I liked about Malcom is his theory: "Long and narrow and light"
We knew we wanted a boat for 2, long range, a boat to live at anchor, low price.
I told Malcom: "even longer and narrower" and "keep thing to the minimum"
And he designed Domino.
( at 66 feet, DOMINO is a small boat. Only 1 state room, 1 BR, 1 galley and 1 pilot room)
Why Paraguay?
I met Norman Hellmers, the CEO of DreamPerformance by chance while he was talking to Malcom Tennant a the Fort Lauderdale boat show in 2004. I liked the man. His company was mainly building airplane, but he wanted to start in the boat building business, and promised me he could built Domino cheaper and better than anybody else.
After getting different bids, he was 3 times cheaper than the other ones, actually the only one I could afford.
So far the quality of the workmanship for the lamination has been superb.I am anxious to see the installation of the hardware and the final product.
Jean Pierre.
Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
My name is Jean Pierre Dufour. My wife is Marie.
Malcom Tennant designed for us a catamaran: DOMINO.
http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/boatdesigns/149/Domino%2020.htm
DOMINO is currently under construction in Asuncion Paraguay
http://www.dreamperformance.com/DOMINO20.html
We hope for the boat to be delivered in a year.
We are moving to Paraguay on Oct 5 to supervise construction. During
that time we plan to also travel through S America.Then South Pacific
with DOMINIO.
We just opened our web site: http://www.dominocat.org
I saw Wild Wind in your net, I would love to get in touch with them.
I am glad to be back in touch.
Welcome aboard the List, Jean Pierre!
That's a good-looking boat. I like how the profile looks low,
especially for a 65-footer.
What made you decide on this particular design by Malcolm Tennant?
Where there any other designers on your short list?
How did you come to pick the builder in Paraguay?
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
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Jean Pierre Dufour wrote:
The engines are John Deere 6081, 300 HP.
Folks who voyage in full-displacement monohulls will says that is a
lot of horsepower for passagemaking.
What do you figure your fuel burn will be at trawler speed of 8-9
knots? at your cruise speed of ?? knots?
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
At trawler speed of 10 knots,about 1.4 mpg.
At 11 knots, 1.1 mpg
top speed 19 to 22 knots. Don't know the fuel burn and don't want to know.
Georgs Kolesnikovs georgs@powercatamaranworld.com wrote:
Jean Pierre Dufour wrote:
The engines are John Deere 6081, 300 HP.
Folks who voyage in full-displacement monohulls will says that is a
lot of horsepower for passagemaking.
What do you figure your fuel burn will be at trawler speed of 8-9
knots? at your cruise speed of ?? knots?
Georgs Kolesnikovs
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Jean Pierre,
Thank you. Yes I've looked over the Tennant and Dream Performance sites. I've been a fan of Malcolm's Globetrotter concept for a long time, I think your Domino is a more livable version of that concept. There is a lot of talk alot about hull shape and boat layout, but there is less discussion on optimizing the systems to keep them simple, maintainable, and quiet. The schematics and breaker panels on some of these production boats seem a little overly complicated to me. Maybe there is less room for improvement without resorting to more sophisticated and less reliable systems.
I read somewhere once that cruising is "working on your boat in distant places", so that keeps ringing in my ears as I think about my next one.
Best of luck, I look forward to learning from your progress.
Mark
jean-pierre dufour jpjdufour@yahoo.com wrote: Mark.
First, have you checked Tennant site? It says a lot about Domino.
'We just eliminate everything that is not necessary:
-Only 1 BR.
-No dishwasher no washer dryer.
-Only 1 small AC for the pilot house. If we need Ac to sleep, we have a flap instaled that can divert the cold air to the stateroom. Since we will be anchored most the time we plan to use natural ventilation,
Other than that, I think we have everything: Fridge, Freezer, Genset, solar panel,wash down pump, a bait tank, Full galley, a built in BBQ on the aft deck, All the electronic, and I wanted the best anchoring system possible: we'll have a Rocna 55 and a Rocna 70 with rope chain combo and 2 widlasses Maxwell 4000. The engines are John Deere 6081, 300 HP. No compromise on the essential.
Cheers.
Jean Pierre.
Mark wrote:
Jean Pierre,
I like your concept of a long small boat. I wonder if you could comment on some of the things you and Malcolm have done in regards to systems design to keep the boat light, simple, and maintainable yet affording some level of comfort and livability for long range cruising. (I do realize all of those terms are relative).
Thanks
Mark
Marina del Rey, CA
jean-pierre dufour wrote: Thank- you George for your wellcome message.
I'll try to answer your 2 questions, the short version.
Why this design?
I liked the idea of a trawler cat and I had seen Icebear and NewYorker in Passage Maker Magazine.
Then I was a a trawler fest in Long beach in 1999, I was talking to a man about my concept of the perfect boat, of course a catamaran, Something like the New Yorker, and soon, I realized the man was Malcom Tennant. After talking the rest of the day, I knew he could design my boat.
What I liked about Malcom is his theory: "Long and narrow and light"
We knew we wanted a boat for 2, long range, a boat to live at anchor, low price.
I told Malcom: "even longer and narrower" and "keep thing to the minimum"
And he designed Domino.
( at 66 feet, DOMINO is a small boat. Only 1 state room, 1 BR, 1 galley and 1 pilot room)
Why Paraguay?
I met Norman Hellmers, the CEO of DreamPerformance by chance while he was talking to Malcom Tennant a the Fort Lauderdale boat show in 2004. I liked the man. His company was mainly building airplane, but he wanted to start in the boat building business, and promised me he could built Domino cheaper and better than anybody else.
After getting different bids, he was 3 times cheaper than the other ones, actually the only one I could afford.
So far the quality of the workmanship for the lamination has been superb.I am anxious to see the installation of the hardware and the final product.
Jean Pierre.
Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
My name is Jean Pierre Dufour. My wife is Marie.
Malcom Tennant designed for us a catamaran: DOMINO.
http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/boatdesigns/149/Domino%2020.htm
DOMINO is currently under construction in Asuncion Paraguay
http://www.dreamperformance.com/DOMINO20.html
We hope for the boat to be delivered in a year.
We are moving to Paraguay on Oct 5 to supervise construction. During
that time we plan to also travel through S America.Then South Pacific
with DOMINIO.
We just opened our web site: http://www.dominocat.org
I saw Wild Wind in your net, I would love to get in touch with them.
I am glad to be back in touch.
Welcome aboard the List, Jean Pierre!
That's a good-looking boat. I like how the profile looks low,
especially for a 65-footer.
What made you decide on this particular design by Malcolm Tennant?
Where there any other designers on your short list?
How did you come to pick the builder in Paraguay?
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
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Mark,
At the time, I too was looking at the globetrotter. But when I met with Malcom, he told me that was just a concept boat and never designed.
If you are intersted in a long range cruising boat for 2, Domino is a better option and CHEEPER than any production boat.
Keep watching the construction.
Jean Pierre.
Mark mark424x@yahoo.com wrote:
Jean Pierre,
Thank you. Yes I've looked over the Tennant and Dream Performance sites. I've been a fan of Malcolm's Globetrotter concept for a long time, I think your Domino is a more livable version of that concept. There is a lot of talk alot about hull shape and boat layout, but there is less discussion on optimizing the systems to keep them simple, maintainable, and quiet. The schematics and breaker panels on some of these production boats seem a little overly complicated to me. Maybe there is less room for improvement without resorting to more sophisticated and less reliable systems.
I read somewhere once that cruising is "working on your boat in distant places", so that keeps ringing in my ears as I think about my next one.
Best of luck, I look forward to learning from your progress.
Mark
jean-pierre dufour wrote: Mark.
First, have you checked Tennant site? It says a lot about Domino.
'We just eliminate everything that is not necessary:
-Only 1 BR.
-No dishwasher no washer dryer.
-Only 1 small AC for the pilot house. If we need Ac to sleep, we have a flap instaled that can divert the cold air to the stateroom. Since we will be anchored most the time we plan to use natural ventilation,
Other than that, I think we have everything: Fridge, Freezer, Genset, solar panel,wash down pump, a bait tank, Full galley, a built in BBQ on the aft deck, All the electronic, and I wanted the best anchoring system possible: we'll have a Rocna 55 and a Rocna 70 with rope chain combo and 2 widlasses Maxwell 4000. The engines are John Deere 6081, 300 HP. No compromise on the essential.
Cheers.
Jean Pierre.
Mark wrote:
Jean Pierre,
I like your concept of a long small boat. I wonder if you could comment on some of the things you and Malcolm have done in regards to systems design to keep the boat light, simple, and maintainable yet affording some level of comfort and livability for long range cruising. (I do realize all of those terms are relative).
Thanks
Mark
Marina del Rey, CA
jean-pierre dufour wrote: Thank- you George for your wellcome message.
I'll try to answer your 2 questions, the short version.
Why this design?
I liked the idea of a trawler cat and I had seen Icebear and NewYorker in Passage Maker Magazine.
Then I was a a trawler fest in Long beach in 1999, I was talking to a man about my concept of the perfect boat, of course a catamaran, Something like the New Yorker, and soon, I realized the man was Malcom Tennant. After talking the rest of the day, I knew he could design my boat.
What I liked about Malcom is his theory: "Long and narrow and light"
We knew we wanted a boat for 2, long range, a boat to live at anchor, low price.
I told Malcom: "even longer and narrower" and "keep thing to the minimum"
And he designed Domino.
( at 66 feet, DOMINO is a small boat. Only 1 state room, 1 BR, 1 galley and 1 pilot room)
Why Paraguay?
I met Norman Hellmers, the CEO of DreamPerformance by chance while he was talking to Malcom Tennant a the Fort Lauderdale boat show in 2004. I liked the man. His company was mainly building airplane, but he wanted to start in the boat building business, and promised me he could built Domino cheaper and better than anybody else.
After getting different bids, he was 3 times cheaper than the other ones, actually the only one I could afford.
So far the quality of the workmanship for the lamination has been superb.I am anxious to see the installation of the hardware and the final product.
Jean Pierre.
Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
My name is Jean Pierre Dufour. My wife is Marie.
Malcom Tennant designed for us a catamaran: DOMINO.
http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/boatdesigns/149/Domino%2020.htm
DOMINO is currently under construction in Asuncion Paraguay
http://www.dreamperformance.com/DOMINO20.html
We hope for the boat to be delivered in a year.
We are moving to Paraguay on Oct 5 to supervise construction. During
that time we plan to also travel through S America.Then South Pacific
with DOMINIO.
We just opened our web site: http://www.dominocat.org
I saw Wild Wind in your net, I would love to get in touch with them.
I am glad to be back in touch.
Welcome aboard the List, Jean Pierre!
That's a good-looking boat. I like how the profile looks low,
especially for a 65-footer.
What made you decide on this particular design by Malcolm Tennant?
Where there any other designers on your short list?
How did you come to pick the builder in Paraguay?
Georgs Kolesnikovs
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Dear Jean Pierre,
Might you hint as to the projected cost for Domino.
Regards, Scott Clark
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 1:44 PM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] Domino20 Systems
Mark,
At the time, I too was looking at the globetrotter. But when I met
with Malcom, he told me that was just a concept boat and never designed.
If you are intersted in a long range cruising boat for 2, Domino is a
better option and CHEEPER than any production boat.
Keep watching the construction.
Jean Pierre.
Mark mark424x@yahoo.com wrote:
Jean Pierre,
Thank you. Yes I've looked over the Tennant and Dream Performance sites.
I've been a fan of Malcolm's Globetrotter concept for a long time, I
think your Domino is a more livable version of that concept. There is a
lot of talk alot about hull shape and boat layout, but there is less
discussion on optimizing the systems to keep them simple, maintainable,
and quiet. The schematics and breaker panels on some of these production
boats seem a little overly complicated to me. Maybe there is less room
for improvement without resorting to more sophisticated and less
reliable systems.
I read somewhere once that cruising is "working on your boat in distant
places", so that keeps ringing in my ears as I think about my next one.
Best of luck, I look forward to learning from your progress.
Mark
jean-pierre dufour wrote: Mark.
First, have you checked Tennant site? It says a lot about Domino.
'We just eliminate everything that is not necessary:
-Only 1 BR.
-No dishwasher no washer dryer.
-Only 1 small AC for the pilot house. If we need Ac to sleep, we have a
flap instaled that can divert the cold air to the stateroom. Since we
will be anchored most the time we plan to use natural ventilation,
Other than that, I think we have everything: Fridge, Freezer, Genset,
solar panel,wash down pump, a bait tank, Full galley, a built in BBQ on
the aft deck, All the electronic, and I wanted the best anchoring system
possible: we'll have a Rocna 55 and a Rocna 70 with rope chain combo and
2 widlasses Maxwell 4000. The engines are John Deere 6081, 300 HP. No
compromise on the essential.
Cheers.
Jean Pierre.
Mark wrote:
Jean Pierre,
I like your concept of a long small boat. I wonder if you could comment
on some of the things you and Malcolm have done in regards to systems
design to keep the boat light, simple, and maintainable yet affording
some level of comfort and livability for long range cruising. (I do
realize all of those terms are relative).
Thanks
Mark
Marina del Rey, CA
jean-pierre dufour wrote: Thank- you George for your wellcome message.
I'll try to answer your 2 questions, the short version.
Why this design?
I liked the idea of a trawler cat and I had seen Icebear and NewYorker
in Passage Maker Magazine.
Then I was a a trawler fest in Long beach in 1999, I was talking to a
man about my concept of the perfect boat, of course a catamaran,
Something like the New Yorker, and soon, I realized the man was Malcom
Tennant. After talking the rest of the day, I knew he could design my
boat.
What I liked about Malcom is his theory: "Long and narrow and light"
We knew we wanted a boat for 2, long range, a boat to live at anchor,
low price.
I told Malcom: "even longer and narrower" and "keep thing to the
minimum"
And he designed Domino.
( at 66 feet, DOMINO is a small boat. Only 1 state room, 1 BR, 1 galley
and 1 pilot room)
Why Paraguay?
I met Norman Hellmers, the CEO of DreamPerformance by chance while he
was talking to Malcom Tennant a the Fort Lauderdale boat show in 2004. I
liked the man. His company was mainly building airplane, but he wanted
to start in the boat building business, and promised me he could built
Domino cheaper and better than anybody else.
After getting different bids, he was 3 times cheaper than the other
ones, actually the only one I could afford.
So far the quality of the workmanship for the lamination has been
superb.I am anxious to see the installation of the hardware and the
final product.
Jean Pierre.
Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
My name is Jean Pierre Dufour. My wife is Marie.
Malcom Tennant designed for us a catamaran: DOMINO.
http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/boatdesigns/149/Domino%2020.htm
DOMINO is currently under construction in Asuncion Paraguay
http://www.dreamperformance.com/DOMINO20.html
We hope for the boat to be delivered in a year.
We are moving to Paraguay on Oct 5 to supervise construction. During
that time we plan to also travel through S America.Then South Pacific
with DOMINIO.
We just opened our web site: http://www.dominocat.org
I saw Wild Wind in your net, I would love to get in touch with them.
I am glad to be back in touch.
Welcome aboard the List, Jean Pierre!
That's a good-looking boat. I like how the profile looks low,
especially for a 65-footer.
What made you decide on this particular design by Malcolm Tennant?
Where there any other designers on your short list?
How did you come to pick the builder in Paraguay?
Georgs Kolesnikovs
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I can't.
This is there first boat, they do it at cost, and you would have to get a bid for a second one.
I can tell you that there is no ocean capable trawler I could have for that price.
Jean Pierre.
Scott Clark southernvision@bellsouth.net wrote:
Dear Jean Pierre,
Might you hint as to the projected cost for Domino.
Regards, Scott Clark
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 1:44 PM
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] Domino20 Systems
Mark,
At the time, I too was looking at the globetrotter. But when I met
with Malcom, he told me that was just a concept boat and never designed.
If you are intersted in a long range cruising boat for 2, Domino is a
better option and CHEEPER than any production boat.
Keep watching the construction.
Jean Pierre.
Mark wrote:
Jean Pierre,
Thank you. Yes I've looked over the Tennant and Dream Performance sites.
I've been a fan of Malcolm's Globetrotter concept for a long time, I
think your Domino is a more livable version of that concept. There is a
lot of talk alot about hull shape and boat layout, but there is less
discussion on optimizing the systems to keep them simple, maintainable,
and quiet. The schematics and breaker panels on some of these production
boats seem a little overly complicated to me. Maybe there is less room
for improvement without resorting to more sophisticated and less
reliable systems.
I read somewhere once that cruising is "working on your boat in distant
places", so that keeps ringing in my ears as I think about my next one.
Best of luck, I look forward to learning from your progress.
Mark
jean-pierre dufour wrote: Mark.
First, have you checked Tennant site? It says a lot about Domino.
'We just eliminate everything that is not necessary:
-Only 1 BR.
-No dishwasher no washer dryer.
-Only 1 small AC for the pilot house. If we need Ac to sleep, we have a
flap instaled that can divert the cold air to the stateroom. Since we
will be anchored most the time we plan to use natural ventilation,
Other than that, I think we have everything: Fridge, Freezer, Genset,
solar panel,wash down pump, a bait tank, Full galley, a built in BBQ on
the aft deck, All the electronic, and I wanted the best anchoring system
possible: we'll have a Rocna 55 and a Rocna 70 with rope chain combo and
2 widlasses Maxwell 4000. The engines are John Deere 6081, 300 HP. No
compromise on the essential.
Cheers.
Jean Pierre.
Mark wrote:
Jean Pierre,
I like your concept of a long small boat. I wonder if you could comment
on some of the things you and Malcolm have done in regards to systems
design to keep the boat light, simple, and maintainable yet affording
some level of comfort and livability for long range cruising. (I do
realize all of those terms are relative).
Thanks
Mark
Marina del Rey, CA
jean-pierre dufour wrote: Thank- you George for your wellcome message.
I'll try to answer your 2 questions, the short version.
Why this design?
I liked the idea of a trawler cat and I had seen Icebear and NewYorker
in Passage Maker Magazine.
Then I was a a trawler fest in Long beach in 1999, I was talking to a
man about my concept of the perfect boat, of course a catamaran,
Something like the New Yorker, and soon, I realized the man was Malcom
Tennant. After talking the rest of the day, I knew he could design my
boat.
What I liked about Malcom is his theory: "Long and narrow and light"
We knew we wanted a boat for 2, long range, a boat to live at anchor,
low price.
I told Malcom: "even longer and narrower" and "keep thing to the
minimum"
And he designed Domino.
( at 66 feet, DOMINO is a small boat. Only 1 state room, 1 BR, 1 galley
and 1 pilot room)
Why Paraguay?
I met Norman Hellmers, the CEO of DreamPerformance by chance while he
was talking to Malcom Tennant a the Fort Lauderdale boat show in 2004. I
liked the man. His company was mainly building airplane, but he wanted
to start in the boat building business, and promised me he could built
Domino cheaper and better than anybody else.
After getting different bids, he was 3 times cheaper than the other
ones, actually the only one I could afford.
So far the quality of the workmanship for the lamination has been
superb.I am anxious to see the installation of the hardware and the
final product.
Jean Pierre.
Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
My name is Jean Pierre Dufour. My wife is Marie.
Malcom Tennant designed for us a catamaran: DOMINO.
http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/boatdesigns/149/Domino%2020.htm
DOMINO is currently under construction in Asuncion Paraguay
http://www.dreamperformance.com/DOMINO20.html
We hope for the boat to be delivered in a year.
We are moving to Paraguay on Oct 5 to supervise construction. During
that time we plan to also travel through S America.Then South Pacific
with DOMINIO.
We just opened our web site: http://www.dominocat.org
I saw Wild Wind in your net, I would love to get in touch with them.
I am glad to be back in touch.
Welcome aboard the List, Jean Pierre!
That's a good-looking boat. I like how the profile looks low,
especially for a 65-footer.
What made you decide on this particular design by Malcolm Tennant?
Where there any other designers on your short list?
How did you come to pick the builder in Paraguay?
Georgs Kolesnikovs
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