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Re: [PUP] Drogues and Sea Anchors

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positivepate@verizon.net
Sat, Jan 1, 2005 5:03 AM

Hi all.  My name is Mike Pate and I'm a 'wanna-be' passagemaker (probably
several years out...sigh)... but this topic on the drogues is intriguing to me
because I read such varying thoughts on how one should handle bad weather in a
power vessel.

I read the drogue web site and it made sense to me, but do you want to go with
the storm...at an angle against the storm...or head on and just survive the
ride???  What is the most survivable way to navigate a storm (aside from a
warm and safe harbor?)

Mike

From: "John Harris" JohnPH@Comcast.net
Date: 2004/12/31 Fri PM 01:36:35 CST
To: "Passagemaking Under Power List" <passagemaking-under-

Subject: [PUP] Drogues and Sea Anchors

Mike,

Thank you for the reference. You make some good points from the report. I
have read parts of it - I hope the most relevant.

I offer the following comments:

  1. The report speaks primarily to sailboats and specifically those of
    Fastnet type and under 45'. These are boats of low hull profile designed for
    racing, not for heavy weather in any direction. They have been built as
    light as possible for the maximum wind conditions that they expect to
    encounter.

Even typical cruising sailboats seldom have a high bow of the range of a
similar sized trawler.

  1. The report sights their primary real world experience as the use of
    Drogues by the Royal Life Boat Institute in England - where they use the
    Drogue in heavy seas when wanting to make way and entering channels.

  2. The comments on the use of bow deployed sea anchors make two mistakes: A)
    failing to deploy the anchor two wave lengths from the vessel, and B) not
    using an attachment that will stabilize off the direct bow with a harness.

  3. It properly identifies a very large breaking wave as a potential
    disaster, but states that this is generally not the conditions of severe
    weather in open ocean.

Regards, John Harris


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Hi all. My name is Mike Pate and I'm a 'wanna-be' passagemaker (probably several years out...sigh)... but this topic on the drogues is intriguing to me because I read such varying thoughts on how one should handle bad weather in a power vessel. I read the drogue web site and it made sense to me, but do you want to go with the storm...at an angle against the storm...or head on and just survive the ride??? What is the most survivable way to navigate a storm (aside from a warm and safe harbor?) Mike > From: "John Harris" <JohnPH@Comcast.net> > Date: 2004/12/31 Fri PM 01:36:35 CST > To: "Passagemaking Under Power List" <passagemaking-under- power@lists.samurai.com> > Subject: [PUP] Drogues and Sea Anchors > > Mike, > > Thank you for the reference. You make some good points from the report. I > have read parts of it - I hope the most relevant. > > I offer the following comments: > > 1) The report speaks primarily to sailboats and specifically those of > Fastnet type and under 45'. These are boats of low hull profile designed for > racing, not for heavy weather in any direction. They have been built as > light as possible for the maximum wind conditions that they expect to > encounter. > > Even typical cruising sailboats seldom have a high bow of the range of a > similar sized trawler. > > 2) The report sights their primary real world experience as the use of > Drogues by the Royal Life Boat Institute in England - where they use the > Drogue in heavy seas when wanting to make way and entering channels. > > 3) The comments on the use of bow deployed sea anchors make two mistakes: A) > failing to deploy the anchor two wave lengths from the vessel, and B) not > using an attachment that will stabilize off the direct bow with a harness. > > 4) It properly identifies a very large breaking wave as a potential > disaster, but states that this is generally not the conditions of severe > weather in open ocean. > > Regards, John Harris > > > _______________________________________________ > Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List >
JH
John Harris
Sat, Jan 1, 2005 5:04 PM

RE: . . . What is the most survivable way to navigate a storm  . . .

Mike - to you and others that may be interested in this question may want to
check out the book "Surviving the Storm". It is the first book offering on
the web site WWW.setsail.com and written by an experienced sailboater, that
is currently moving to a mostly power boat albeit a large one.

There is a lot of other interesting information on the site also.

Regards, John Harris

RE: . . . What is the most survivable way to navigate a storm . . . Mike - to you and others that may be interested in this question may want to check out the book "Surviving the Storm". It is the first book offering on the web site WWW.setsail.com and written by an experienced sailboater, that is currently moving to a mostly power boat albeit a large one. There is a lot of other interesting information on the site also. Regards, John Harris