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Re: [volt-nuts] MAX6350 ?

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Andreas_-_Jahn@t-online.de
Sat, Sep 4, 2010 3:03 PM

I made some measurements over about 1 week (156 hours)
with a similar device: the MAX6250ACPA
It is specified with typical 20ppm/1000h.
Instead of having a constant 25 degree temperature
(which would be the correct way to get the datasheet spec)
I did some thermal cycling every day between about
20 and up to 40 degrees (centigrade) and recording the
voltage at the 25 degree points.
The ageing was about 100uV during this time
including 15uV thermal hysteresis.
This would be 20ppm/156 hours or when projecting with
the square root to 1000 hours about 50ppm/1000h.
Since I investigated only one single device without pre-ageing
I cannot state wether this value is really a typical one.
If you really need a maximum drift over age in my opinion
the only way is to pre-age the devices and select those who
meet the desired target value.
On the other side I have 2 other 5V buried zener devices (LT1027CCN8-5)
which I have compared to 2 different Keithley 2000 after pre-ageing
and one year later again. After having corrected the temperature error
of the 2 zeners I got about 5uV difference (1ppm) over one year.
(1 digit difference on one of the both Keithleys).
So either all 4 devices did the same ageing or they are dammned good.
By the way: within the year I did some comparisons to a 7V LM399 zener.
Either the LM399 or the two LT1027 devices drifted about 8 ppm in the
one
direction and then back to about the original value.
Since temperature effects are calculated out I think that relative
humidity
between winter and summer together with the plastic case of the LT1027
plays a role.
with best regards
Andreas

I made some measurements over about 1 week (156 hours) with a similar device: the MAX6250ACPA It is specified with typical 20ppm/1000h. Instead of having a constant 25 degree temperature (which would be the correct way to get the datasheet spec) I did some thermal cycling every day between about 20 and up to 40 degrees (centigrade) and recording the voltage at the 25 degree points. The ageing was about 100uV during this time including 15uV thermal hysteresis. This would be 20ppm/156 hours or when projecting with the square root to 1000 hours about 50ppm/1000h. Since I investigated only one single device without pre-ageing I cannot state wether this value is really a typical one. If you really need a maximum drift over age in my opinion the only way is to pre-age the devices and select those who meet the desired target value. On the other side I have 2 other 5V buried zener devices (LT1027CCN8-5) which I have compared to 2 different Keithley 2000 after pre-ageing and one year later again. After having corrected the temperature error of the 2 zeners I got about 5uV difference (1ppm) over one year. (1 digit difference on one of the both Keithleys). So either all 4 devices did the same ageing or they are dammned good. By the way: within the year I did some comparisons to a 7V LM399 zener. Either the LM399 or the two LT1027 devices drifted about 8 ppm in the one direction and then back to about the original value. Since temperature effects are calculated out I think that relative humidity between winter and summer together with the plastic case of the LT1027 plays a role. with best regards Andreas
PK
Poul-Henning Kamp
Sat, Sep 4, 2010 3:28 PM

I made some measurements over about 1 week (156 hours)
with a similar device: the MAX6250ACPA

Thanks for the input.

I was more after an idea how much the aging drift settled down
after a year or two of continuous running, I'm trying to figure
out if we need to recall some gear for recal of if they can
play with it for another year.

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In message <1OruHP-2CRYaO0@fwd04.aul.t-online.de>, "Andreas_-_Jahn@t-online.de" writes: > I made some measurements over about 1 week (156 hours) > with a similar device: the MAX6250ACPA Thanks for the input. I was more after an idea how much the aging drift settled down after a year or two of continuous running, I'm trying to figure out if we need to recall some gear for recal of if they can play with it for another year. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.