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Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

BE
Bill Ezell
Sun, Jan 13, 2013 1:27 PM

Going from memory, no, you have to pull the roms and read them. At
least, that's what a few of us in the group have done.
You can access ram and nvram, though.

--
Bill Ezell

They said 'Windows or better'
so I used Linux.

Going from memory, no, you have to pull the roms and read them. At least, that's what a few of us in the group have done. You can access ram and nvram, though. -- Bill Ezell ---------- They said 'Windows or better' so I used Linux.
DC
David C. Partridge
Sun, Jan 13, 2013 4:36 PM

Actually, I believe that the MONITOR command will allow you look at storage anywhere within the address space of either of the processors, see pages 8.1 through 8.5 of the service manual. So it should be possible to READ the ROMs this way if both processors are working and communicating.

However it would be pretty slow, and as all the ROMs are socketed, it's not a big deal to just remove them and read them in a programmer.

Note that I haven't tried this.

Regards,
David Partridge
-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bill Ezell
Sent: 13 January 2013 13:28
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

Going from memory, no, you have to pull the roms and read them. At least, that's what a few of us in the group have done.
You can access ram and nvram, though.

--
Bill Ezell

They said 'Windows or better'
so I used Linux.


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Actually, I believe that the MONITOR command will allow you look at storage anywhere within the address space of either of the processors, see pages 8.1 through 8.5 of the service manual. So it should be possible to READ the ROMs this way if both processors are working and communicating. However it would be pretty slow, and as all the ROMs are socketed, it's not a big deal to just remove them and read them in a programmer. Note that I haven't tried this. Regards, David Partridge -----Original Message----- From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bill Ezell Sent: 13 January 2013 13:28 To: volt-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading Going from memory, no, you have to pull the roms and read them. At least, that's what a few of us in the group have done. You can access ram and nvram, though. -- Bill Ezell ---------- They said 'Windows or better' so I used Linux. _______________________________________________ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.
MK
m k
Sun, Jan 13, 2013 4:57 PM

Hi David,

well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell. But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now.

I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out through the rs232.

I will have to buy something to read them with.

M K

From: david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:36:52 +0000
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

Actually, I believe that the MONITOR command will allow you look at storage anywhere within the address space of either of the processors, see pages 8.1 through 8.5 of the service manual. So it should be possible to READ the ROMs this way if both processors are working and communicating.

However it would be pretty slow, and as all the ROMs are socketed, it's not a big deal to just remove them and read them in a programmer.

Note that I haven't tried this.

Regards,
David Partridge
-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bill Ezell
Sent: 13 January 2013 13:28
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

Going from memory, no, you have to pull the roms and read them. At least, that's what a few of us in the group have done.
You can access ram and nvram, though.

--
Bill Ezell

They said 'Windows or better'
so I used Linux.


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Hi David, well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell. But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now. I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out through the rs232. I will have to buy something to read them with. M K > From: david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:36:52 +0000 > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > Actually, I believe that the MONITOR command will allow you look at storage anywhere within the address space of either of the processors, see pages 8.1 through 8.5 of the service manual. So it should be possible to READ the ROMs this way if both processors are working and communicating. > > However it would be pretty slow, and as all the ROMs are socketed, it's not a big deal to just remove them and read them in a programmer. > > Note that I haven't tried this. > > Regards, > David Partridge > -----Original Message----- > From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bill Ezell > Sent: 13 January 2013 13:28 > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > Going from memory, no, you have to pull the roms and read them. At least, that's what a few of us in the group have done. > You can access ram and nvram, though. > > -- > Bill Ezell > ---------- > They said 'Windows or better' > so I used Linux. > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
DC
David C. Partridge
Sun, Jan 13, 2013 5:14 PM

If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue CALIBRATE,DUMP command

To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH - barring component failure that should be good for another ten years or so.  You can also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT re-write them.

The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants if they have been lost is to run a full calibration.

Again all this in chapter 8.

I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just ignorance - there may be loads).

Regards,
David Partridge
-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of m k
Sent: 13 January 2013 16:57
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

Hi David,

well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell. But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now.

I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out through the rs232.

I will have to buy something to read them with.

M K

If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue CALIBRATE,DUMP command To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH - barring component failure that should be good for another ten years or so. You can also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT re-write them. The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants if they have been lost is to run a full calibration. Again all this in chapter 8. I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just ignorance - there may be loads). Regards, David Partridge -----Original Message----- From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of m k Sent: 13 January 2013 16:57 To: volt-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading Hi David, well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell. But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now. I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out through the rs232. I will have to buy something to read them with. M K
MK
m k
Tue, Jan 15, 2013 10:29 PM

I just noticed a gotcha, I need to set the key to calibrate before I may issue those commands, I guess I need a key. I have printed off the photo and measurements someone on this board did, now to get to a key shop...

M K

From: david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:14:07 +0000
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue CALIBRATE,DUMP command

To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH - barring component failure that should be good for another ten years or so.  You can also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT re-write them.

The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants if they have been lost is to run a full calibration.

Again all this in chapter 8.

I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just ignorance - there may be loads).

Regards,
David Partridge
-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of m k
Sent: 13 January 2013 16:57
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

Hi David,

well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell. But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now.

I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out through the rs232.

I will have to buy something to read them with.

M K


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I just noticed a gotcha, I need to set the key to calibrate before I may issue those commands, I guess I need a key. I have printed off the photo and measurements someone on this board did, now to get to a key shop... M K > From: david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:14:07 +0000 > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue CALIBRATE,DUMP command > > To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH - barring component failure that should be good for another ten years or so. You can also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT re-write them. > > The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants if they have been lost is to run a full calibration. > > Again all this in chapter 8. > > I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just ignorance - there may be loads). > > > Regards, > David Partridge > -----Original Message----- > From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of m k > Sent: 13 January 2013 16:57 > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > > Hi David, > > well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell. But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now. > > I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out through the rs232. > > I will have to buy something to read them with. > > M K > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
JL
J. L. Trantham
Wed, Jan 16, 2013 1:00 AM

MK,

Where are you?  If you can't get a key made, I can probably send you one.

IIRC, you can 'activate' the key by removing a wire from the key switch.
That places it in 'CAL' mode.  The schematic easily demonstrates this.  I
don't think it was 'shorting' the two switch wires.  Of course that requires
you to remove the top of the meter.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of m k
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:30 PM
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

I just noticed a gotcha, I need to set the key to calibrate before I may
issue those commands, I guess I need a key. I have printed off the photo and
measurements someone on this board did, now to get to a key shop...

M K

From: david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:14:07 +0000
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue
CALIBRATE,DUMP command

To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH -

barring component failure that should be good for another ten years or so.
You can also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT
re-write them.

The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants

if they have been lost is to run a full calibration.

Again all this in chapter 8.

I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just

ignorance - there may be loads).

Regards,
David Partridge
-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com]
On Behalf Of m k
Sent: 13 January 2013 16:57
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

Hi David,

well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell.

But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last
calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now.

I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on

when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing
else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out
through the rs232.

I will have to buy something to read them with.

M K


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MK, Where are you? If you can't get a key made, I can probably send you one. IIRC, you can 'activate' the key by removing a wire from the key switch. That places it in 'CAL' mode. The schematic easily demonstrates this. I don't think it was 'shorting' the two switch wires. Of course that requires you to remove the top of the meter. Joe -----Original Message----- From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of m k Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:30 PM To: volt-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading I just noticed a gotcha, I need to set the key to calibrate before I may issue those commands, I guess I need a key. I have printed off the photo and measurements someone on this board did, now to get to a key shop... M K > From: david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:14:07 +0000 > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue > CALIBRATE,DUMP command > > To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH - barring component failure that should be good for another ten years or so. You can also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT re-write them. > > The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants if they have been lost is to run a full calibration. > > Again all this in chapter 8. > > I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just ignorance - there may be loads). > > > Regards, > David Partridge > -----Original Message----- > From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] > On Behalf Of m k > Sent: 13 January 2013 16:57 > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > > Hi David, > > well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell. But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now. > > I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out through the rs232. > > I will have to buy something to read them with. > > M K > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.
CB
Charles Black
Wed, Jan 16, 2013 2:08 AM

MK,

All you need to do is unplug the jones plug where the key wiring goes to
the circuit board. No need to do any wiring!

Charlie

On 1/15/2013 5:00 PM, J. L. Trantham wrote:

MK,

Where are you?  If you can't get a key made, I can probably send you one.

IIRC, you can 'activate' the key by removing a wire from the key switch.
That places it in 'CAL' mode.  The schematic easily demonstrates this.  I
don't think it was 'shorting' the two switch wires.  Of course that requires
you to remove the top of the meter.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of m k
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:30 PM
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

I just noticed a gotcha, I need to set the key to calibrate before I may
issue those commands, I guess I need a key. I have printed off the photo and
measurements someone on this board did, now to get to a key shop...

M K

From: david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:14:07 +0000
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue
CALIBRATE,DUMP command

To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH -

barring component failure that should be good for another ten years or so.
You can also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT
re-write them.

The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants

if they have been lost is to run a full calibration.

Again all this in chapter 8.

I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just

ignorance - there may be loads).

Regards,
David Partridge
-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com]
On Behalf Of m k
Sent: 13 January 2013 16:57
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

Hi David,

well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell.

But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last
calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now.

I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on

when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing
else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out
through the rs232.

I will have to buy something to read them with.

M K


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MK, All you need to do is unplug the jones plug where the key wiring goes to the circuit board. No need to do any wiring! Charlie On 1/15/2013 5:00 PM, J. L. Trantham wrote: > MK, > > Where are you? If you can't get a key made, I can probably send you one. > > IIRC, you can 'activate' the key by removing a wire from the key switch. > That places it in 'CAL' mode. The schematic easily demonstrates this. I > don't think it was 'shorting' the two switch wires. Of course that requires > you to remove the top of the meter. > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > Behalf Of m k > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:30 PM > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > > I just noticed a gotcha, I need to set the key to calibrate before I may > issue those commands, I guess I need a key. I have printed off the photo and > measurements someone on this board did, now to get to a key shop... > > M K > >> From: david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk >> To: volt-nuts@febo.com >> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:14:07 +0000 >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading >> >> If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue >> CALIBRATE,DUMP command >> >> To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH - > barring component failure that should be good for another ten years or so. > You can also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT > re-write them. >> The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants > if they have been lost is to run a full calibration. >> Again all this in chapter 8. >> >> I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just > ignorance - there may be loads). >> >> Regards, >> David Partridge >> -----Original Message----- >> From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] >> On Behalf Of m k >> Sent: 13 January 2013 16:57 >> To: volt-nuts@febo.com >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading >> >> >> Hi David, >> >> well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell. > But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last > calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now. >> I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on > when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing > else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out > through the rs232. >> I will have to buy something to read them with. >> >> M K >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > >
MK
m k
Wed, Jan 16, 2013 7:32 AM

Thanks for that, I thought someone had once said that would work, but until I know it better I have been trying to change it as little as possible.

Regards,

M K

Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:08:02 -0800
From: cblack@centurytel.net
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

MK,

All you need to do is unplug the jones plug where the key wiring goes to
the circuit board. No need to do any wiring!

Charlie

On 1/15/2013 5:00 PM, J. L. Trantham wrote:

MK,

Where are you?  If you can't get a key made, I can probably send you one.

IIRC, you can 'activate' the key by removing a wire from the key switch.
That places it in 'CAL' mode.  The schematic easily demonstrates this.  I
don't think it was 'shorting' the two switch wires.  Of course that requires
you to remove the top of the meter.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of m k
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:30 PM
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

I just noticed a gotcha, I need to set the key to calibrate before I may
issue those commands, I guess I need a key. I have printed off the photo and
measurements someone on this board did, now to get to a key shop...

M K

From: david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:14:07 +0000
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue
CALIBRATE,DUMP command

To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH -

barring component failure that should be good for another ten years or so.
You can also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT
re-write them.

The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants

if they have been lost is to run a full calibration.

Again all this in chapter 8.

I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just

ignorance - there may be loads).

Regards,
David Partridge
-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com]
On Behalf Of m k
Sent: 13 January 2013 16:57
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

Hi David,

well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell.

But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last
calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now.

I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on

when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing
else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out
through the rs232.

I will have to buy something to read them with.

M K


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Thanks for that, I thought someone had once said that would work, but until I know it better I have been trying to change it as little as possible. Regards, M K > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:08:02 -0800 > From: cblack@centurytel.net > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > MK, > > All you need to do is unplug the jones plug where the key wiring goes to > the circuit board. No need to do any wiring! > > Charlie > > > On 1/15/2013 5:00 PM, J. L. Trantham wrote: > > MK, > > > > Where are you? If you can't get a key made, I can probably send you one. > > > > IIRC, you can 'activate' the key by removing a wire from the key switch. > > That places it in 'CAL' mode. The schematic easily demonstrates this. I > > don't think it was 'shorting' the two switch wires. Of course that requires > > you to remove the top of the meter. > > > > Joe > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > > Behalf Of m k > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:30 PM > > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > > > > > I just noticed a gotcha, I need to set the key to calibrate before I may > > issue those commands, I guess I need a key. I have printed off the photo and > > measurements someone on this board did, now to get to a key shop... > > > > M K > > > >> From: david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk > >> To: volt-nuts@febo.com > >> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:14:07 +0000 > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > >> > >> If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue > >> CALIBRATE,DUMP command > >> > >> To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH - > > barring component failure that should be good for another ten years or so. > > You can also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT > > re-write them. > >> The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants > > if they have been lost is to run a full calibration. > >> Again all this in chapter 8. > >> > >> I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just > > ignorance - there may be loads). > >> > >> Regards, > >> David Partridge > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] > >> On Behalf Of m k > >> Sent: 13 January 2013 16:57 > >> To: volt-nuts@febo.com > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > >> > >> > >> Hi David, > >> > >> well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell. > > But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last > > calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now. > >> I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on > > when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing > > else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out > > through the rs232. > >> I will have to buy something to read them with. > >> > >> M K > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
MK
m k
Wed, Jan 16, 2013 7:39 AM

Hi Joe,

I am in the UK near Guildford. But give me time to get to the locksmith at the weekend first.
And I am going to try just unplugging the cal key too.

Regards,

M K

From: jltran@att.net
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:00:57 -0600
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

MK,

Where are you?  If you can't get a key made, I can probably send you one.

IIRC, you can 'activate' the key by removing a wire from the key switch.
That places it in 'CAL' mode.  The schematic easily demonstrates this.  I
don't think it was 'shorting' the two switch wires.  Of course that requires
you to remove the top of the meter.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of m k
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:30 PM
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

I just noticed a gotcha, I need to set the key to calibrate before I may
issue those commands, I guess I need a key. I have printed off the photo and
measurements someone on this board did, now to get to a key shop...

M K

From: david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:14:07 +0000
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue
CALIBRATE,DUMP command

To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH -

barring component failure that should be good for another ten years or so.
You can also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT
re-write them.

The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants

if they have been lost is to run a full calibration.

Again all this in chapter 8.

I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just

ignorance - there may be loads).

Regards,
David Partridge
-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com]
On Behalf Of m k
Sent: 13 January 2013 16:57
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

Hi David,

well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell.

But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last
calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now.

I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on

when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing
else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out
through the rs232.

I will have to buy something to read them with.

M K


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Hi Joe, I am in the UK near Guildford. But give me time to get to the locksmith at the weekend first. And I am going to try just unplugging the cal key too. Regards, M K > From: jltran@att.net > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:00:57 -0600 > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > MK, > > Where are you? If you can't get a key made, I can probably send you one. > > IIRC, you can 'activate' the key by removing a wire from the key switch. > That places it in 'CAL' mode. The schematic easily demonstrates this. I > don't think it was 'shorting' the two switch wires. Of course that requires > you to remove the top of the meter. > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > Behalf Of m k > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:30 PM > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > > I just noticed a gotcha, I need to set the key to calibrate before I may > issue those commands, I guess I need a key. I have printed off the photo and > measurements someone on this board did, now to get to a key shop... > > M K > > > From: david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk > > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:14:07 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > > > If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue > > CALIBRATE,DUMP command > > > > To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH - > barring component failure that should be good for another ten years or so. > You can also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT > re-write them. > > > > The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants > if they have been lost is to run a full calibration. > > > > Again all this in chapter 8. > > > > I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just > ignorance - there may be loads). > > > > > > Regards, > > David Partridge > > -----Original Message----- > > From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] > > On Behalf Of m k > > Sent: 13 January 2013 16:57 > > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > > > > > Hi David, > > > > well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell. > But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last > calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now. > > > > I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on > when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing > else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out > through the rs232. > > > > I will have to buy something to read them with. > > > > M K > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
MK
m k
Wed, Jan 16, 2013 8:01 AM

Hi Charlie,

partial success, calibrate,refresh worked, the display told me so, but the calibrate,dump command did not do anything visible.

M K

Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:08:02 -0800
From: cblack@centurytel.net
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

MK,

All you need to do is unplug the jones plug where the key wiring goes to
the circuit board. No need to do any wiring!

Charlie

On 1/15/2013 5:00 PM, J. L. Trantham wrote:

MK,

Where are you?  If you can't get a key made, I can probably send you one.

IIRC, you can 'activate' the key by removing a wire from the key switch.
That places it in 'CAL' mode.  The schematic easily demonstrates this.  I
don't think it was 'shorting' the two switch wires.  Of course that requires
you to remove the top of the meter.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of m k
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:30 PM
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

I just noticed a gotcha, I need to set the key to calibrate before I may
issue those commands, I guess I need a key. I have printed off the photo and
measurements someone on this board did, now to get to a key shop...

M K

From: david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:14:07 +0000
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue
CALIBRATE,DUMP command

To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH -

barring component failure that should be good for another ten years or so.
You can also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT
re-write them.

The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants

if they have been lost is to run a full calibration.

Again all this in chapter 8.

I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just

ignorance - there may be loads).

Regards,
David Partridge
-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com]
On Behalf Of m k
Sent: 13 January 2013 16:57
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading

Hi David,

well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell.

But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last
calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now.

I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on

when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing
else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out
through the rs232.

I will have to buy something to read them with.

M K


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Hi Charlie, partial success, calibrate,refresh worked, the display told me so, but the calibrate,dump command did not do anything visible. M K > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:08:02 -0800 > From: cblack@centurytel.net > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > MK, > > All you need to do is unplug the jones plug where the key wiring goes to > the circuit board. No need to do any wiring! > > Charlie > > > On 1/15/2013 5:00 PM, J. L. Trantham wrote: > > MK, > > > > Where are you? If you can't get a key made, I can probably send you one. > > > > IIRC, you can 'activate' the key by removing a wire from the key switch. > > That places it in 'CAL' mode. The schematic easily demonstrates this. I > > don't think it was 'shorting' the two switch wires. Of course that requires > > you to remove the top of the meter. > > > > Joe > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > > Behalf Of m k > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:30 PM > > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > > > > > > I just noticed a gotcha, I need to set the key to calibrate before I may > > issue those commands, I guess I need a key. I have printed off the photo and > > measurements someone on this board did, now to get to a key shop... > > > > M K > > > >> From: david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk > >> To: volt-nuts@febo.com > >> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:14:07 +0000 > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > >> > >> If all you want is to save the calibration factors, just issue > >> CALIBRATE,DUMP command > >> > >> To refresh the EAROM calibration factors, issue CALIBRATE,REFRESH - > > barring component failure that should be good for another ten years or so. > > You can also display the NVM contents with the MONITOR command, but NOT > > re-write them. > >> The only way that I am aware of that will write the caibration constants > > if they have been lost is to run a full calibration. > >> Again all this in chapter 8. > >> > >> I don't know which ROM programmers that can read or write the ER3400 (just > > ignorance - there may be loads). > >> > >> Regards, > >> David Partridge > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] > >> On Behalf Of m k > >> Sent: 13 January 2013 16:57 > >> To: volt-nuts@febo.com > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] vSolartron7081 rom reading > >> > >> > >> Hi David, > >> > >> well it is currently working and close to calibrated as far as I can tell. > > But I want to get those calibration factors saved before it dies on me. Last > > calibrated 2008, and well down on drift by now. > >> I get a diurnal 0.14 microvolt drift with a shorting plug that stays on > > when not in use. a drift of about 0.1 microvolts in about 3 weeks. Nothing > > else to confirm anything else as I have only just got it chatting out > > through the rs232. > >> I will have to buy something to read them with. > >> > >> M K > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there.