I have a Si-Tex KODEN 797 receiver. I this usable with eLORAN and can I get useful timing data from the data out BNC connector? Can this be used for anything other than parts? Thanks 73 Glenn WB4UIV -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Glenn Little ARRL Technical Specialist QCWA LM 28417 Amateur Callsign: WB4UIV wb4uiv@arrl.net AMSAT LM 2178 QTH: Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx) USSVI, FRA, NRA-LM ARRL TAPR "It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class of the Amateur that holds the license"

Glenn good afternoon. Unfamiliar with that receiver. If its a location receiver for a plane or boat then it has no value as they depended on 3 sites to generate a location. Today the eLORAN tests have been pretty much single site that fakes a secondary transmitter. Things like Austrons and SRS can leverage the single site for very accurate frequency. But those receivers were intended for frequency or timing. I am staying clear of the timing aspect because I am honestly not sure the old method is actually being transmitted. Eloran provides an additional bit in the pulses that actually does contain timing and correction information. Though all of the existing receivers to my knowledge do not produce this data as an output. If the US were to invest in eLORAN then I honestly believe the 9th bit could be recovered from the SRS and Austrons. Decoded and used for time and propagation corrections. I have seen the actual eLORAN receivers and they seem to be SDR like. But nothing a cheap time-nut could get your hands on. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 10:57 AM Glenn Little WB4UIV via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > I have a Si-Tex KODEN 797 receiver. > I this usable with eLORAN and can I get useful timing data from the data > out BNC connector? > > Can this be used for anything other than parts? > > > Thanks > 73 > Glenn > WB4UIV > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Glenn Little ARRL Technical Specialist QCWA LM 28417 > Amateur Callsign: WB4UIV wb4uiv@arrl.net AMSAT LM 2178 > QTH: Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx) USSVI, FRA, NRA-LM ARRL TAPR > "It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class > of the Amateur that holds the license" > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >

Thanks, it will be used for parts. I is a boat navigation receiver that used a 20 MHz TCXO. I was an Electronics tech on submarines, specialty navigation subsystem. Shortly before I retired, they upgraded the nav system to remove the WPN-3 LORAN receiver and replaced it with a BRN-5 LORAN sensor. With this we only required two station to get a fix. While inport we tracked LORAN C and determined a drift rate for our cesium standards. With the known drift rate of the LORAN station standard and our known drift rate, we tracked "phase shift" LORAN. Easier to remain locked to a net with only two stations required an master no longer required. 73 Glenn WB4UIV On 5/30/2022 1:10 PM, paul swed via time-nuts wrote: > Glenn good afternoon. > Unfamiliar with that receiver. If its a location receiver for a plane or > boat then it has no value as they depended on 3 sites to generate a > location. Today the eLORAN tests have been pretty much single site that > fakes a secondary transmitter. > Things like Austrons and SRS can leverage the single site for very accurate > frequency. > But those receivers were intended for frequency or timing. > I am staying clear of the timing aspect because I am honestly not sure > the old method is actually being transmitted. > > Eloran provides an additional bit in the pulses that actually does contain > timing and correction information. Though all of the existing receivers to > my knowledge do not produce this data as an output. > > If the US were to invest in eLORAN then I honestly believe the 9th bit > could be recovered from the SRS and Austrons. Decoded and used for time and > propagation corrections. I have seen the actual eLORAN receivers and they > seem to be SDR like. > But nothing a cheap time-nut could get your hands on. > Regards > Paul > WB8TSL > > On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 10:57 AM Glenn Little WB4UIV via time-nuts < > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > >> I have a Si-Tex KODEN 797 receiver. >> I this usable with eLORAN and can I get useful timing data from the data >> out BNC connector? >> >> Can this be used for anything other than parts? >> >> >> Thanks >> 73 >> Glenn >> WB4UIV >> >> -- >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Glenn Little ARRL Technical Specialist QCWA LM 28417 >> Amateur Callsign: WB4UIV wb4uiv@arrl.net AMSAT LM 2178 >> QTH: Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx) USSVI, FRA, NRA-LM ARRL TAPR >> "It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class >> of the Amateur that holds the license" >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Glenn Little ARRL Technical Specialist QCWA LM 28417 Amateur Callsign: WB4UIV wb4uiv@arrl.net AMSAT LM 2178 QTH: Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx) USSVI, FRA, NRA-LM ARRL TAPR "It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class of the Amateur that holds the license"