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L. Bruce Jones
Mon, May 16, 2005 4:51 PM

I looked up the SWATH vessel through
Google and saw the research vessel which looked like it stood on twin
submarines and not a traditional cat.

Ron,

SWATH stands for small waterplane area twin hull design. You are
correct in that the underwater portion resembles two streamlined
submarine hulls that are fully submerged and connected by sponsons to
the over-water part. The smooth ride is because the surface waves
have nothing to impinge upon. High draft is a drawback to the design
as is construction expense. And, some of the vessels can be
breathtakingly ugly with very boxy superstructures although the
interior space is terrific.

If you've been around the Fort Lauderdale waterfront there is a
commercial live-aboard dive boat there called the Nekton Pilot that
is a SWATH design.

Here's a reference site: http://www.swath.com/index.html

About 10 years ago Howard Apollonio, a Bellingham, Washington based
N.A. did a design for a SWATH boat that was a fishing yacht and it
can occasionally be seen in Northwest waters. Yacht versions of the
design are quite rare

The Navy has done some work with high speed SWATH designs they call
SLICE. Pacific Marine in Honolulu has been involved in building some.

Bruce

>I looked up the SWATH vessel through >Google and saw the research vessel which looked like it stood on twin >submarines and not a traditional cat. Ron, SWATH stands for small waterplane area twin hull design. You are correct in that the underwater portion resembles two streamlined submarine hulls that are fully submerged and connected by sponsons to the over-water part. The smooth ride is because the surface waves have nothing to impinge upon. High draft is a drawback to the design as is construction expense. And, some of the vessels can be breathtakingly ugly with very boxy superstructures although the interior space is terrific. If you've been around the Fort Lauderdale waterfront there is a commercial live-aboard dive boat there called the Nekton Pilot that is a SWATH design. Here's a reference site: http://www.swath.com/index.html About 10 years ago Howard Apollonio, a Bellingham, Washington based N.A. did a design for a SWATH boat that was a fishing yacht and it can occasionally be seen in Northwest waters. Yacht versions of the design are quite rare The Navy has done some work with high speed SWATH designs they call SLICE. Pacific Marine in Honolulu has been involved in building some. Bruce
MO
Mike O'Dell
Mon, May 16, 2005 6:15 PM

i've talked with some folks who worked on a couple of
SWATH projects and their comments are interesting.

all the positives previously mentioned are very real.

the problem, however, is that the large masses at the
end of the long moment arms (vertical hull structures)
produce incredible bending loads on the joint between
the hulls and the wing deck.  think about the action
of a beam sea, for example.  there is a large wetted
surface for it to work on, and it's very hard to
brace it any way but internally.

the result is that the mechanical engineering and
materials challenges which must be solved to
realize a SWATH can be quite daunting.

lower speeds and smaller scale may make the design
more workable - USN efforts were on big things going fast.
they are fascinating to see under way and illustrate
the rate of innovation in naval architecture that
we are now enjoying - arguable the greatest rate in
the last 100 years.

cheers,
-mo
i've talked with some folks who worked on a couple of SWATH projects and their comments are interesting. all the positives previously mentioned are very real. the problem, however, is that the large masses at the end of the long moment arms (vertical hull structures) produce *incredible* bending loads on the joint between the hulls and the wing deck. think about the action of a beam sea, for example. there is a large wetted surface for it to work on, and it's very hard to brace it any way but internally. the result is that the mechanical engineering and materials challenges which must be solved to realize a SWATH can be quite daunting. lower speeds and smaller scale may make the design more workable - USN efforts were on big things going fast. they are fascinating to see under way and illustrate the rate of innovation in naval architecture that we are now enjoying - arguable the greatest rate in the last 100 years. cheers, -mo
RR
Ron Rogers
Mon, May 16, 2005 10:19 PM

Are the inshore vessels that the USN is having built in Australia cats or
SWATHs? They may be for inshore ops, but they have to get their on their own
bottoms.

Ron Rogers

Are the inshore vessels that the USN is having built in Australia cats or SWATHs? They may be for inshore ops, but they have to get their on their own bottoms. Ron Rogers
MO
Mike O'Dell
Mon, May 16, 2005 10:35 PM

USN is using big powercats these days on an operational basis

i don't know of a USN SWATH that's operational, however
that doesn't mean much (grin)

-mo
USN is using big powercats these days on an operational basis i don't know of a USN SWATH that's operational, however that doesn't mean much (grin) -mo