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Tom,
Like my cousin said, it could be a local signal. Properly the three shore blast whistle / horn signal is given to mean that your vessel is going in reverse AND there are other vessels in the area, as in backing out of a slip. The one long blast is generally used when leaving your fairway and going out into a channel.
If everyone in the local area is knows what one long blast immediately followed by three short blast means then it is OK, just confusing outside of the local area?
John
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On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Tom Barnes wrote:
I have worked in places where one prolonged and three shorts was called a four whistle signal. One long for departing a dock and three shorts for backing down.
Tom B.
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--- On Sun, 1/29/12, John & Judy Gill jjgill@twojscom.com wrote:
From: John & Judy Gill jjgill@twojscom.com
Subject: GL: Fwd: RE: 4 Whistle / Horn Signal
To: "Loop List Great, Loop List" great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Date: Sunday, January 29, 2012, 11:46 AM
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Joe and List,
There is no rule for a 4 Whistle or Horn signal! However, it may be a local signal which is permitted under the COLREGS.
I checked this out with my cousin who is a graduate of Kingspoint and has an unlimited tonnage USCG license.
John
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On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:18 PM, CaptJoe60@aol.com wrote:
John, Et Al.
What is the reason for "4 Whistles"?
Thanks,
Joe
In a message dated 1/28/2012 4:33:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jjgill@twojscom.com writes:
Rich, Vance and List,
We have taught the Inland Horn Signals for the Power Squadrons basic safe boating courses for years. Students have always had a hard time remembering the signals, because they are so infrequently used. Also when you sound your horn or whistle, you normally only cause someone to wave at you!
Try this method of remembering the horn / whistle signals.
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The signal is always in relationship to the first vessel sounding the horn or whistle blast(s).
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This method works for both Overtaking and Passing another vessel Bow to Bow.
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Sound One Short Blast if you intend to pass or overtake the other vessel on your Port side (one blast for a one syllable word - Port)
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Sound Two Short Blasts if you intend to pass or overtake the other vessel on your Starboard side (two blasts for a two syllable word - Starboard.
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Sound Three Short Blasts if you are going Astern and other vessels are nearby (three blasts for three words).
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Sound One Long Blast if you are Leaving your Fairway (leaving is one longer word).
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Sound One Long and One Short Blast if you wish to have a bridge opening (Opening Bridge).
Anyway, it seems to work as evidenced by the proper answers to exam questions.
John and Judy Gill
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On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Rich Gano wrote:
Holy mackerel, what a mess I made in trying to clarify the whistle signals
for overtaking inland! I guess that's part of the problem with electronic
versions of COLREGS; I just grabbed the international section instead of
Inland. What's really embarrassing is that I of all people should have
caught the two prolonged blasts mentioned and avoided the error.
So please forgive my dopiness and thank you, Terry, for catching it.
Here is the correct citation for part of Rules 34 of the INLAND rules:
(c) When in sight of one another:
(i) a power-driven vessel intending to overtake another power-driven
vessel shall indicate her intention by the following signals on her
whistle: one short blast to mean “I intend to overtake you on your
starboard side”; two short blasts to mean “I intend to overtake you on
your port side”; and
(ii) the power-driven vessel about to be overtaken shall, if in
agreement, sound a similar sound signal. If in doubt she shall sound
the danger signal prescribed in paragraph (d).
NOW, to nuances, please note the six words (capitalized) that are different
in the International version of the first line of the quotation - When in
sight of one another IN A NARROW CHANNEL OR FAIRWAY:
So feel free to blow your horn in inland waters when overtaking another
vessel whether or not you are in a narrow channel - period.
Again, my apologies for those whose time I wasted with this error.
Rich Gano
Calypso (GB42 Hull # 295)
Panama City area, FL
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When I was a young kid, just learning the rules, there were three
kinds of whistle (horn) signals, short, long and
prolonged. Interestingly, the "long" blast was longer than the
"prolonged" blast. Confusing to someone learning.
Well, that has been changed according to the latest Navigation
Rules. There are only "short" blasts of about one second duration
and "prolonged" blasts of 4-6 seconds.
Of course when we say "long blast" nowadays, we are speaking of the
official "prolonged blast." Still confusing, but it is "in the book."
Bill