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scottstrickland@comcast.net
Wed, Feb 23, 2005 1:18 PM

How about this:

instead of my checklist which
is maybe too specific for others, Bob does not
seem to think they should be on the list,
here were the thoughts for our checklist.

I would like to know if anyone else has
different ideas.

Maybe someone else would describe their
though patterns for a different check list.

Taking on water for example.

Or is their sufficient interest for our actual check list.

Some of this data is from fire fighting classes I have
taken over the years.

I used to be a paramedic and had fire fighting classes,
then two years ago I took a boat fire fighting class
complete with propane fire generators and we practiced
using real extinguishers learning how to get the right
spray patterns and how to work from the outside in
(which I knew, but also how to use the corners of boats
to back the fire in, something I did not remember!).

However some of this, is just my thoughts.

Key issues for fire checklist On Strickly for Fun.

Tell people how to describe a fire.
If I know the smoke is white I do something
different going to the fire then if it is black
smoke.

Tell people how to fight fires by fire
characteristics and which equipment is
close to each location.

For example if smoke is white, it is less likely
to be a fuel fire, more likely electrical so
remove power by switches, or cut
DC cables with cable cutters.

Electrical fires need to have wires cut.
I placed cable cutters by both battery banks.
Fuses do not blow for lose connections
which I believe is the most likely
cause of boat fires.  It is also possible
that a fire could prevent me from getting
to a switch.

This also covers the big cable to the
starter which is NOT protected by a fuse.
On many boats there is no switch to remove
power to the starter, however the Nordhavn
47 has one,  so it is documented
to let people know there is one.  I have seen
a runaway starter and it was really smoking!

Mention that if you have paralleled the battery banks,
you need to disable that feature for DC electrical fires.
(Boy was this a scary problem for me one time.
I turned off the master battery bank, but my bow
thruster switch was not disabled, I had to think in
a hurry under pressure to figure this one out.
I had parallel the bank about 8 days earlier on the
leg!)

If smoke is dark oily, fuel or oil fire (depending on
location) it should not be fought using a
pressurized fire extinguiers, or water hose.
Use fire blanket, turn fuel supply off.)

Since liquid fires are not fought with extinguishers,
but fire blankets.  So I have a fire blankets just
outside the galley and engine room.

Tell people what do if their clothes catch
on fire in the galley.  (REMIND THEM THE
SINK FAUCET IS ON A HOSE THAT CAN BE
USED TO SPRAY YOU IF YOUR CLOTHES
ARE ON FIRE OR THEY SPILL HOT LIQUIDS
/ BURNED THEMSELVES.)

Also mention water hoses make a fire hose.

I annotated the AutoCAD drawings of the interior, with
locations of fire fighting equipment, power cut off switches,
propane valves etc.

This is to allow the crew to do the walk thru of the boat easily.
Do the walk thru by fire type by location.
i.e if there is a electrical fire do these switches.
If there is a pan fire use this fire blanket.
If there is an engine fire and the auto-release extinguisher does
not release, pull here.  (you see the fire before the temp gets
too hot).

Have the crew open all doors hiding fire equipment.

Tell them how to use fire extinguisher.  Especially how to remove
the pin if it is stuck, by placing extinguisher on floor with one
foot on it and pull up, needed for less strong crew members.

If you have a smoke mask, get a fire fighter grade flashlight,
(they have black painted on the front of the bulbs to allow
them to work better in smoke fill spaces)

Remind users of smoke masks (I only have one for me,
I do not want others using it) to check the fit BEFORE
entering a smoke filled space.

I have a smoke mask to enter smoke fire areas if needed,
but would only use it in the right conditions.

A smoke mask does not supply oxygen, but removes
some of the toxic gases, good only to investigate smoke,
not fight a fire.

How about this: instead of my checklist which is maybe too specific for others, Bob does not seem to think they should be on the list, here were the thoughts for our checklist. I would like to know if anyone else has different ideas. Maybe someone else would describe their though patterns for a different check list. Taking on water for example. Or is their sufficient interest for our actual check list. Some of this data is from fire fighting classes I have taken over the years. I used to be a paramedic and had fire fighting classes, then two years ago I took a boat fire fighting class complete with propane fire generators and we practiced using real extinguishers learning how to get the right spray patterns and how to work from the outside in (which I knew, but also how to use the corners of boats to back the fire in, something I did not remember!). However some of this, is just my thoughts. Key issues for fire checklist On Strickly for Fun. Tell people how to describe a fire. If I know the smoke is white I do something different going to the fire then if it is black smoke. Tell people how to fight fires by fire characteristics and which equipment is close to each location. For example if smoke is white, it is less likely to be a fuel fire, more likely electrical so remove power by switches, or cut DC cables with cable cutters. Electrical fires need to have wires cut. I placed cable cutters by both battery banks. Fuses do not blow for lose connections which I believe is the most likely cause of boat fires. It is also possible that a fire could prevent me from getting to a switch. This also covers the big cable to the starter which is NOT protected by a fuse. On many boats there is no switch to remove power to the starter, however the Nordhavn 47 has one, so it is documented to let people know there is one. I have seen a runaway starter and it was really smoking! Mention that if you have paralleled the battery banks, you need to disable that feature for DC electrical fires. (Boy was this a scary problem for me one time. I turned off the master battery bank, but my bow thruster switch was not disabled, I had to think in a hurry under pressure to figure this one out. I had parallel the bank about 8 days earlier on the leg!) If smoke is dark oily, fuel or oil fire (depending on location) it should not be fought using a pressurized fire extinguiers, or water hose. Use fire blanket, turn fuel supply off.) Since liquid fires are not fought with extinguishers, but fire blankets. So I have a fire blankets just outside the galley and engine room. Tell people what do if their clothes catch on fire in the galley. (REMIND THEM THE SINK FAUCET IS ON A HOSE THAT CAN BE USED TO SPRAY YOU IF YOUR CLOTHES ARE ON FIRE OR THEY SPILL HOT LIQUIDS / BURNED THEMSELVES.) Also mention water hoses make a fire hose. I annotated the AutoCAD drawings of the interior, with locations of fire fighting equipment, power cut off switches, propane valves etc. This is to allow the crew to do the walk thru of the boat easily. Do the walk thru by fire type by location. i.e if there is a electrical fire do these switches. If there is a pan fire use this fire blanket. If there is an engine fire and the auto-release extinguisher does not release, pull here. (you see the fire before the temp gets too hot). Have the crew open all doors hiding fire equipment. Tell them how to use fire extinguisher. Especially how to remove the pin if it is stuck, by placing extinguisher on floor with one foot on it and pull up, needed for less strong crew members. If you have a smoke mask, get a fire fighter grade flashlight, (they have black painted on the front of the bulbs to allow them to work better in smoke fill spaces) Remind users of smoke masks (I only have one for me, I do not want others using it) to check the fit BEFORE entering a smoke filled space. I have a smoke mask to enter smoke fire areas if needed, but would only use it in the right conditions. A smoke mask does not supply oxygen, but removes some of the toxic gases, good only to investigate smoke, not fight a fire.