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Several previous thread subjects, generally negative to the AGLCA

BD
Bob Duthie
Thu, Jul 11, 2013 6:20 PM

I am new to this forum as of yesterday, but have been a member of AGLCA
since 2002.  I have been on several boards of non-profit organizations such
as Goodwill Industries.  The difference between a non-profit and a for
profit is that non-profits whose revenues exceed expenses call that
difference a "surplus".  If a non-profit doesn't have occasional surpluses
it will cease to exist.  I don't see any problem with AGLCA using
greatloop.org

What is unique about AGLCA is their rendezvous.  Their forum needs to be
replaced with a more modern system. In my experience LinkedIn groups offer
the best looking and easiest to use forum.  Yahoo and Google Groups come
next.  Great-Loop lists appears to be an email only forum which has
advantages for boaters but it does make it more difficult to post replies.

Bob Duthie

Katy Leigh GB 36 Classic

Blogs at greatloopcruising.com

I am new to this forum as of yesterday, but have been a member of AGLCA since 2002. I have been on several boards of non-profit organizations such as Goodwill Industries. The difference between a non-profit and a for profit is that non-profits whose revenues exceed expenses call that difference a "surplus". If a non-profit doesn't have occasional surpluses it will cease to exist. I don't see any problem with AGLCA using greatloop.org What is unique about AGLCA is their rendezvous. Their forum needs to be replaced with a more modern system. In my experience LinkedIn groups offer the best looking and easiest to use forum. Yahoo and Google Groups come next. Great-Loop lists appears to be an email only forum which has advantages for boaters but it does make it more difficult to post replies. Bob Duthie Katy Leigh GB 36 Classic Blogs at greatloopcruising.com
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John & Judy Gill
Thu, Jul 11, 2013 11:20 PM

Bob,

Thank you for your reply post and your accurate comment regarding AGLCA using <www. greatloop.org> for their website:

I don't know what the problems members are confronted with regarding posting or replying to: "authors only" or the "group" or when subscribing to the Digest format versus the daily eMail postings individually. Personally I have learned how to reply "off line" when appropriate to some posters, so it is no longer a problem to me, but still it does take several extra steps to accomplish, to include the Subject Line, a SNIP of the original post, etc. versus a reply to all which requires one to go into the Association's website to reply -- much more involved and costly if WiFi  or MiFi is not available while cruising.

Yes, Bob, if a non profit organization does not have occasional surpluses it will cease to exist.  The time period for for-profit companies to not make a profit is much more limited!!!

Your are correct that there is no problem with the AGLCA using the .org designation.

Anyone interested in the benefits of being a member of the America's Great Loopers Association is invited to check out the many member benefits of the Association by logging onto:  <www.greatloop.org>.

John and Judy Gill
Delaware River Sail & Power Squadron, D/5
Two J’s V, a 36 ft. Carver Mariner
Slip E-26, Sassafras Harbor Marina, Georgetown, MD
AGLCA Life Members, Gold Flag Loopers
AGLCA  Harbor Hosts for the Northern Chesapeake Bay
USPS Life Members & CPS-ECP Members
eMail:  < jjgill@twojscom.com >
Website:  http://www.twojscom.com/GreatLoop/

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On Jul 11, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Bob Duthie wrote:

I am new to this forum as of yesterday, but have been a member of AGLCA
since 2002.  I have been on several boards of non-profit organizations such
as Goodwill Industries.  The difference between a non-profit and a for
profit is that non-profits whose revenues exceed expenses call that
difference a "surplus".  If a non-profit doesn't have occasional surpluses
it will cease to exist.  I don't see any problem with AGLCA using
greatloop.org

What is unique about AGLCA is their rendezvous.  Their forum needs to be
replaced with a more modern system. In my experience LinkedIn groups offer
the best looking and easiest to use forum.  Yahoo and Google Groups come
next.  Great-Loop lists appears to be an email only forum which has
advantages for boaters but it does make it more difficult to post replies.

Bob Duthie

Katy Leigh GB 36 Classic

Blogs at greatloopcruising.com


http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

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Bob, Thank you for your reply post and your accurate comment regarding AGLCA using <www. greatloop.org> for their website: I don't know what the problems members are confronted with regarding posting or replying to: "authors only" or the "group" or when subscribing to the Digest format versus the daily eMail postings individually. Personally I have learned how to reply "off line" when appropriate to some posters, so it is no longer a problem to me, but still it does take several extra steps to accomplish, to include the Subject Line, a SNIP of the original post, etc. versus a reply to all which requires one to go into the Association's website to reply -- much more involved and costly if WiFi or MiFi is not available while cruising. Yes, Bob, if a non profit organization does not have occasional surpluses it will cease to exist. The time period for for-profit companies to not make a profit is much more limited!!! Your are correct that there is no problem with the AGLCA using the .org designation. Anyone interested in the benefits of being a member of the America's Great Loopers Association is invited to check out the many member benefits of the Association by logging onto: <www.greatloop.org>. John and Judy Gill Delaware River Sail & Power Squadron, D/5 Two J’s V, a 36 ft. Carver Mariner Slip E-26, Sassafras Harbor Marina, Georgetown, MD AGLCA Life Members, Gold Flag Loopers AGLCA Harbor Hosts for the Northern Chesapeake Bay USPS Life Members & CPS-ECP Members eMail: < jjgill@twojscom.com > Website: <http://www.twojscom.com/GreatLoop/> ========================================================== On Jul 11, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Bob Duthie wrote: > I am new to this forum as of yesterday, but have been a member of AGLCA > since 2002. I have been on several boards of non-profit organizations such > as Goodwill Industries. The difference between a non-profit and a for > profit is that non-profits whose revenues exceed expenses call that > difference a "surplus". If a non-profit doesn't have occasional surpluses > it will cease to exist. I don't see any problem with AGLCA using > greatloop.org > > > > What is unique about AGLCA is their rendezvous. Their forum needs to be > replaced with a more modern system. In my experience LinkedIn groups offer > the best looking and easiest to use forum. Yahoo and Google Groups come > next. Great-Loop lists appears to be an email only forum which has > advantages for boaters but it does make it more difficult to post replies. > > > > Bob Duthie > > Katy Leigh GB 36 Classic > > Blogs at greatloopcruising.com > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com
ER
Elaine Reib
Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:30 AM

I agree with Bob and the AGLCA rendezvous. They are very helpful and teach so many people about the things you need to know when you are getting started cruising or going to a new cruise area.

I wondered where the "non-profit" part came in??? They are a business just like so many other businesses and they give a good product for the money. Try to get advice from a lawyer and see how money you have to pay. I have been with AGLCA since 2003 or 4 and glad to be. I just wish I could figure out how to get the emails sent to me daily.

Elaine

On Jul 11, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Bob Duthie wrote:

I am new to this forum as of yesterday, but have been a member of AGLCA
since 2002.  I have been on several boards of non-profit organizations such
as Goodwill Industries.  The difference between a non-profit and a for
profit is that non-profits whose revenues exceed expenses call that
difference a "surplus".  If a non-profit doesn't have occasional surpluses
it will cease to exist.  I don't see any problem with AGLCA using
greatloop.org

What is unique about AGLCA is their rendezvous.  Their forum needs to be
replaced with a more modern system. In my experience LinkedIn groups offer
the best looking and easiest to use forum.  Yahoo and Google Groups come
next.  Great-Loop lists appears to be an email only forum which has
advantages for boaters but it does make it more difficult to post replies.

Bob Duthie

Katy Leigh GB 36 Classic

Blogs at greatloopcruising.com


http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address,
unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

I agree with Bob and the AGLCA rendezvous. They are very helpful and teach so many people about the things you need to know when you are getting started cruising or going to a new cruise area. I wondered where the "non-profit" part came in??? They are a business just like so many other businesses and they give a good product for the money. Try to get advice from a lawyer and see how money you have to pay. I have been with AGLCA since 2003 or 4 and glad to be. I just wish I could figure out how to get the emails sent to me daily. Elaine On Jul 11, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Bob Duthie wrote: > I am new to this forum as of yesterday, but have been a member of AGLCA > since 2002. I have been on several boards of non-profit organizations such > as Goodwill Industries. The difference between a non-profit and a for > profit is that non-profits whose revenues exceed expenses call that > difference a "surplus". If a non-profit doesn't have occasional surpluses > it will cease to exist. I don't see any problem with AGLCA using > greatloop.org > > > > What is unique about AGLCA is their rendezvous. Their forum needs to be > replaced with a more modern system. In my experience LinkedIn groups offer > the best looking and easiest to use forum. Yahoo and Google Groups come > next. Great-Loop lists appears to be an email only forum which has > advantages for boaters but it does make it more difficult to post replies. > > > > Bob Duthie > > Katy Leigh GB 36 Classic > > Blogs at greatloopcruising.com > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com
ER
Elaine Reib
Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:42 AM

I agree with Bob and the AGLCA rendezvous. They are very helpful and teach so many people about the things you need to know when you are getting started cruising or going to a new cruise area.

I wondered where the "non-profit" part came in??? They are a business just like so many other businesses and they give a good product for the money. Try to get advice from a lawyer and see how money you have to pay. I have been with AGLCA since 2003 or 4 and glad to be. I just wish I could figure out how to get the emails sent to me daily.

Elaine

On Jul 11, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Bob Duthie wrote:

I am new to this forum as of yesterday, but have been a member of AGLCA
since 2002.  I have been on several boards of non-profit organizations such
as Goodwill Industries.  The difference between a non-profit and a for
profit is that non-profits whose revenues exceed expenses call that
difference a "surplus".  If a non-profit doesn't have occasional surpluses
it will cease to exist.  I don't see any problem with AGLCA using
greatloop.org

What is unique about AGLCA is their rendezvous.  Their forum needs to be
replaced with a more modern system. In my experience LinkedIn groups offer
the best looking and easiest to use forum.  Yahoo and Google Groups come
next.  Great-Loop lists appears to be an email only forum which has
advantages for boaters but it does make it more difficult to post replies.

Bob Duthie

Katy Leigh GB 36 Classic

Blogs at greatloopcruising.com


http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address,
unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

> I agree with Bob and the AGLCA rendezvous. They are very helpful and teach so many people about the things you need to know when you are getting started cruising or going to a new cruise area. > > I wondered where the "non-profit" part came in??? They are a business just like so many other businesses and they give a good product for the money. Try to get advice from a lawyer and see how money you have to pay. I have been with AGLCA since 2003 or 4 and glad to be. I just wish I could figure out how to get the emails sent to me daily. > > Elaine > > On Jul 11, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Bob Duthie wrote: > >> I am new to this forum as of yesterday, but have been a member of AGLCA >> since 2002. I have been on several boards of non-profit organizations such >> as Goodwill Industries. The difference between a non-profit and a for >> profit is that non-profits whose revenues exceed expenses call that >> difference a "surplus". If a non-profit doesn't have occasional surpluses >> it will cease to exist. I don't see any problem with AGLCA using >> greatloop.org >> >> >> >> What is unique about AGLCA is their rendezvous. Their forum needs to be >> replaced with a more modern system. In my experience LinkedIn groups offer >> the best looking and easiest to use forum. Yahoo and Google Groups come >> next. Great-Loop lists appears to be an email only forum which has >> advantages for boaters but it does make it more difficult to post replies. >> >> >> >> Bob Duthie >> >> Katy Leigh GB 36 Classic >> >> Blogs at greatloopcruising.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com >> >> To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >> unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com >
JM
John Mencel
Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:25 PM

Elaine,  there is a way to get emails daily. Every morning I get an email of all the posts from the previous day in one batch. Perhaps there is a setting on the site that does this? You can always email them for instructions.

While I enjoy this forum as well, when I did the loop last year I found the AGLCA update every morning to be very helpful. Loopers tend to be in the same geographic area as the seasons change and while looping,I found myself knowing many of the boats on the AGLCA forum as I would run into them from time to time. It was also a source of great daily advice.  I attended one rendevous (Alabama) and found the information very useful as I headed into Florida for the winter, plus I met some more great folks!

I also used Active Captain regularly for information on anchorages and marinas.

John

From: elreib@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 21:30:32 -0400
To: bob@duthielearning.com
CC: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: GL: Several previous thread subjects, generally negative to the AGLCA

I agree with Bob and the AGLCA rendezvous. They are very helpful and teach so many people about the things you need to know when you are getting started cruising or going to a new cruise area.

I wondered where the "non-profit" part came in??? They are a business just like so many other businesses and they give a good product for the money. Try to get advice from a lawyer and see how money you have to pay. I have been with AGLCA since 2003 or 4 and glad to be. I just wish I could figure out how to get the emails sent to me daily.

Elaine

On Jul 11, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Bob Duthie wrote:

I am new to this forum as of yesterday, but have been a member of AGLCA
since 2002.  I have been on several boards of non-profit organizations such
as Goodwill Industries.  The difference between a non-profit and a for
profit is that non-profits whose revenues exceed expenses call that
difference a "surplus".  If a non-profit doesn't have occasional surpluses
it will cease to exist.  I don't see any problem with AGLCA using
greatloop.org

What is unique about AGLCA is their rendezvous.  Their forum needs to be
replaced with a more modern system. In my experience LinkedIn groups offer
the best looking and easiest to use forum.  Yahoo and Google Groups come
next.  Great-Loop lists appears to be an email only forum which has
advantages for boaters but it does make it more difficult to post replies.

Bob Duthie

Katy Leigh GB 36 Classic

Blogs at greatloopcruising.com


http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address,
unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

Elaine, there is a way to get emails daily. Every morning I get an email of all the posts from the previous day in one batch. Perhaps there is a setting on the site that does this? You can always email them for instructions. While I enjoy this forum as well, when I did the loop last year I found the AGLCA update every morning to be very helpful. Loopers tend to be in the same geographic area as the seasons change and while looping,I found myself knowing many of the boats on the AGLCA forum as I would run into them from time to time. It was also a source of great daily advice. I attended one rendevous (Alabama) and found the information very useful as I headed into Florida for the winter, plus I met some more great folks! I also used Active Captain regularly for information on anchorages and marinas. John > From: elreib@comcast.net > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 21:30:32 -0400 > To: bob@duthielearning.com > CC: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com > Subject: Re: GL: Several previous thread subjects, generally negative to the AGLCA > > I agree with Bob and the AGLCA rendezvous. They are very helpful and teach so many people about the things you need to know when you are getting started cruising or going to a new cruise area. > > I wondered where the "non-profit" part came in??? They are a business just like so many other businesses and they give a good product for the money. Try to get advice from a lawyer and see how money you have to pay. I have been with AGLCA since 2003 or 4 and glad to be. I just wish I could figure out how to get the emails sent to me daily. > > Elaine > > On Jul 11, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Bob Duthie wrote: > > > I am new to this forum as of yesterday, but have been a member of AGLCA > > since 2002. I have been on several boards of non-profit organizations such > > as Goodwill Industries. The difference between a non-profit and a for > > profit is that non-profits whose revenues exceed expenses call that > > difference a "surplus". If a non-profit doesn't have occasional surpluses > > it will cease to exist. I don't see any problem with AGLCA using > > greatloop.org > > > > > > > > What is unique about AGLCA is their rendezvous. Their forum needs to be > > replaced with a more modern system. In my experience LinkedIn groups offer > > the best looking and easiest to use forum. Yahoo and Google Groups come > > next. Great-Loop lists appears to be an email only forum which has > > advantages for boaters but it does make it more difficult to post replies. > > > > > > > > Bob Duthie > > > > Katy Leigh GB 36 Classic > > > > Blogs at greatloopcruising.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com
DC
D C _Mac_ Macdonald
Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:12 PM

AFAIK, I get each email from the forum separately as they are posted.  Steve Kromer can tell you how to set that up at the AGLCA home page.

Please do NOT take anything I have written as being meant to disparage AGLCA.  I simply greatly dislike the "forum" format in general and as implemented by AGLCA it is even more annoying.  I do NOT go to websites on any regular basis unless pointed out to me for a specifice reason.  I get over 200 emails every day on average and simply don't have available time to just go "shopping."  "Shopping" is NOT a "sport" for me.

Since our boat in which we had intended to do the loop was destroyed in a weather incident in Feb 2011 we will not ever be making the loop trip.  That, therefore, is another reason for which continued AGLCA membership is not appropriate for us.

I DO enjoy reading the postings on the GL list and I can easily reply either to a message originator or the full list as I may see fit.

As there is no "perfect" boat for everyone, there is no perfect format for the passing of information.  Use whatever you prefer.


** D C "Mac" Macdonald **

  • Grand Lake & OKC - OK *
    ** AGLCA (#217) & USPS **
    • (no current boat) * *
      ** USAF & FAA, Retired **
      ** Amateur Radio K2GKK **
    • Since 30 Nov 1953 * *

From: jmencel@bell.net
To: elreib@comcast.net; bob@duthielearning.com
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 13:25:56 +0000
CC: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: GL: Several previous thread subjects, generally negative to the AGLCA

Elaine, there is a way to get emails daily. Every morning I get an email of all the posts from the previous day in one batch. Perhaps there is a setting on the site that does this? You can always email them for instructions.

While I enjoy this forum as well, when I did the loop last year I found the AGLCA update every morning to be very helpful. Loopers tend to be in the same geographic area as the seasons change and while looping,I found myself knowing many of the boats on the AGLCA forum as I would run into them from time to time. It was also a source of great daily advice. I attended one rendevous (Alabama) and found the information very useful as I headed into Florida for the winter, plus I met some more great folks!

I also used Active Captain regularly for information on anchorages and marinas.

John

From: elreib@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 21:30:32 -0400
To: bob@duthielearning.com
CC: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: GL: Several previous thread subjects, generally negative to the AGLCA

I agree with Bob and the AGLCA rendezvous. They are very helpful and teach so many people about the things you need to know when you are getting started cruising or going to a new cruise area.

I wondered where the "non-profit" part came in??? They are a business just like so many other businesses and they give a good product for the money. Try to get advice from a lawyer and see how money you have to pay. I have been with AGLCA since 2003 or 4 and glad to be. I just wish I could figure out how to get the emails sent to me daily.

Elaine

On Jul 11, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Bob Duthie wrote:

I am new to this forum as of yesterday, but have been a member of AGLCA
since 2002. I have been on several boards of non-profit organizations such
as Goodwill Industries. The difference between a non-profit and a for
profit is that non-profits whose revenues exceed expenses call that
difference a "surplus". If a non-profit doesn't have occasional surpluses
it will cease to exist. I don't see any problem with AGLCA using
greatloop.org

What is unique about AGLCA is their rendezvous. Their forum needs to be
replaced with a more modern system. In my experience LinkedIn groups offer
the best looking and easiest to use forum. Yahoo and Google Groups come
next. Great-Loop lists appears to be an email only forum which has
advantages for boaters but it does make it more difficult to post replies.

Bob Duthie
Katy Leigh GB 36 Classic
Blogs at greatloopcruising.com

AFAIK, I get each email from the forum separately as they are posted. Steve Kromer can tell you how to set that up at the AGLCA home page. Please do NOT take anything I have written as being meant to disparage AGLCA. I simply greatly dislike the "forum" format in general and as implemented by AGLCA it is even more annoying. I do NOT go to websites on any regular basis unless pointed out to me for a specifice reason. I get over 200 emails every day on average and simply don't have available time to just go "shopping." "Shopping" is NOT a "sport" for me. Since our boat in which we had intended to do the loop was destroyed in a weather incident in Feb 2011 we will not ever be making the loop trip. That, therefore, is another reason for which continued AGLCA membership is not appropriate for us. I DO enjoy reading the postings on the GL list and I can easily reply either to a message originator or the full list as I may see fit. As there is no "perfect" boat for everyone, there is no perfect format for the passing of information. Use whatever you prefer. * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** D C "Mac" Macdonald ** * Grand Lake & OKC - OK * ** AGLCA (#217) & USPS ** * * (no current boat) * * ** USAF & FAA, Retired ** ** Amateur Radio K2GKK ** * * Since 30 Nov 1953 * * * * k2gkk@hotmail.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > From: jmencel@bell.net > To: elreib@comcast.net; bob@duthielearning.com > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 13:25:56 +0000 > CC: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com > Subject: Re: GL: Several previous thread subjects, generally negative to the AGLCA > > Elaine, there is a way to get emails daily. Every morning I get an email of all the posts from the previous day in one batch. Perhaps there is a setting on the site that does this? You can always email them for instructions. > > While I enjoy this forum as well, when I did the loop last year I found the AGLCA update every morning to be very helpful. Loopers tend to be in the same geographic area as the seasons change and while looping,I found myself knowing many of the boats on the AGLCA forum as I would run into them from time to time. It was also a source of great daily advice. I attended one rendevous (Alabama) and found the information very useful as I headed into Florida for the winter, plus I met some more great folks! > > I also used Active Captain regularly for information on anchorages and marinas. > > John > > > > From: elreib@comcast.net > > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 21:30:32 -0400 > > To: bob@duthielearning.com > > CC: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com > > Subject: Re: GL: Several previous thread subjects, generally negative to the AGLCA > > > > I agree with Bob and the AGLCA rendezvous. They are very helpful and teach so many people about the things you need to know when you are getting started cruising or going to a new cruise area. > > > > I wondered where the "non-profit" part came in??? They are a business just like so many other businesses and they give a good product for the money. Try to get advice from a lawyer and see how money you have to pay. I have been with AGLCA since 2003 or 4 and glad to be. I just wish I could figure out how to get the emails sent to me daily. > > > > Elaine > > > > On Jul 11, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Bob Duthie wrote: > > > > > I am new to this forum as of yesterday, but have been a member of AGLCA > > > since 2002. I have been on several boards of non-profit organizations such > > > as Goodwill Industries. The difference between a non-profit and a for > > > profit is that non-profits whose revenues exceed expenses call that > > > difference a "surplus". If a non-profit doesn't have occasional surpluses > > > it will cease to exist. I don't see any problem with AGLCA using > > > greatloop.org > > > > > > What is unique about AGLCA is their rendezvous. Their forum needs to be > > > replaced with a more modern system. In my experience LinkedIn groups offer > > > the best looking and easiest to use forum. Yahoo and Google Groups come > > > next. Great-Loop lists appears to be an email only forum which has > > > advantages for boaters but it does make it more difficult to post replies. > > > > > > Bob Duthie > > > Katy Leigh GB 36 Classic > > > Blogs at greatloopcruising.com