JW
Joe Weaver
Tue, Mar 29, 2022 7:15 PM
Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town, subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
joe@basslaw.netmailto:agbass@basslaw.net
[cid:image001.png@01D84374.F20E7250]
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P.O. Box 157
El Reno, OK 73036
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Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town, subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
--------------------------------
Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
joe@basslaw.net<mailto:agbass@basslaw.net>
[cid:image001.png@01D84374.F20E7250]
www.basslaw.net
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P.O. Box 157
El Reno, OK 73036
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Robert Thompson
Tue, Mar 29, 2022 7:25 PM
I agree. Many years ago before the City of Harrah adopted a Charter and became a Manager/Council form of government, it was a town and hired a "Town Administrator" to manage the day to day business of the town, with the Board of Trustees making all the policy decisions, including hiring and terminating employees.
From: Joe Weaver jweaver@basslaw.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:16 PM
To: oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town, subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
joe@basslaw.netmailto:agbass@basslaw.net
[cid:image001.png@01D84378.CAD876F0]
www.basslaw.net
104 N. Rock Island Ave.
P.O. Box 157
El Reno, OK 73036
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I agree. Many years ago before the City of Harrah adopted a Charter and became a Manager/Council form of government, it was a town and hired a "Town Administrator" to manage the day to day business of the town, with the Board of Trustees making all the policy decisions, including hiring and terminating employees.
From: Joe Weaver <jweaver@basslaw.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:16 PM
To: oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town, subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
--------------------------------
Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
joe@basslaw.net<mailto:agbass@basslaw.net>
[cid:image001.png@01D84378.CAD876F0]
www.basslaw.net
104 N. Rock Island Ave.
P.O. Box 157
El Reno, OK 73036
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rayvincent@coxinet.net
Tue, Mar 29, 2022 7:28 PM
I would not let the Town manager do any hiring, firing or discipline without the Boards approval.
Ray
From: Joe Weaver
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:15 PM
To: oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town, subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
joe@basslaw.net
www.basslaw.net
104 N. Rock Island Ave.
P.O. Box 157
El Reno, OK 73036
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I would not let the Town manager do any hiring, firing or discipline without the Boards approval.
Ray
From: Joe Weaver
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:15 PM
To: oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town, subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
--------------------------------
Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
joe@basslaw.net
www.basslaw.net
104 N. Rock Island Ave.
P.O. Box 157
El Reno, OK 73036
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David Weatherford
Tue, Mar 29, 2022 8:26 PM
I believe 12-106(1) and 12-106(6), when read together, give the town trustee
form of government the greatest flexibility about how they can operate, and
that if they want to operate like a city manager form of government (by
giving control of personnel to a town administrator) they can do so by
ordinance. The language below is from a Mannford ordinance in which they
give power and duties to the Town Administrator that are identical to those
of a city manager. We have done this for a number of years (because the
board wants to operate that way) and all are happy with the way it works.
POWERS AND DUTIES OF TOWN ADMINISTRATOR.
The town administrator shall be the chief administrative officer and head of
the administrative branch of the town government including all branches
except the legislative and judicial. He shall execute the laws and
ordinances and administer the government of the town and shall be
responsible therefore, to the board of trustees. He shall:
-
Appoint, and when deemed necessary for the good of the
service, lay off, suspend, demote or remove any officer or employee of the
town, not an elected officer, except as he may authorize the head of a
department to appoint, lay off, suspend, demote and remove subordinates in
such department, office or agency, and except any who may be appointed
otherwise pursuant to law;
-
Supervise and control, indirectly and directly all
administrative departments, agencies, officers and employees appointed as
hereinabove provided;
David L. Weatherford
Attorney At Law
1141 East 37th Street
Tulsa, OK 74105
(918) 743-8355
(918) 743-7478 (fax)
From: Joe Weaver jweaver@basslaw.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:16 PM
To: oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator
to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of
policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including
employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town,
subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees
Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the
appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board
policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against
hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
mailto:agbass@basslaw.net joe@basslaw.net
www.basslaw.net
104 N. Rock Island Ave.
P.O. Box 157
El Reno, OK 73036
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I believe 12-106(1) and 12-106(6), when read together, give the town trustee
form of government the greatest flexibility about how they can operate, and
that if they want to operate like a city manager form of government (by
giving control of personnel to a town administrator) they can do so by
ordinance. The language below is from a Mannford ordinance in which they
give power and duties to the Town Administrator that are identical to those
of a city manager. We have done this for a number of years (because the
board wants to operate that way) and all are happy with the way it works.
POWERS AND DUTIES OF TOWN ADMINISTRATOR.
The town administrator shall be the chief administrative officer and head of
the administrative branch of the town government including all branches
except the legislative and judicial. He shall execute the laws and
ordinances and administer the government of the town and shall be
responsible therefore, to the board of trustees. He shall:
1. Appoint, and when deemed necessary for the good of the
service, lay off, suspend, demote or remove any officer or employee of the
town, not an elected officer, except as he may authorize the head of a
department to appoint, lay off, suspend, demote and remove subordinates in
such department, office or agency, and except any who may be appointed
otherwise pursuant to law;
2. Supervise and control, indirectly and directly all
administrative departments, agencies, officers and employees appointed as
hereinabove provided;
David L. Weatherford
Attorney At Law
1141 East 37th Street
Tulsa, OK 74105
(918) 743-8355
(918) 743-7478 (fax)
From: Joe Weaver <jweaver@basslaw.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:16 PM
To: oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator
to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of
policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including
employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town,
subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees
Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the
appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board
policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against
hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
--------------------------------
Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
<mailto:agbass@basslaw.net> joe@basslaw.net
www.basslaw.net
104 N. Rock Island Ave.
P.O. Box 157
El Reno, OK 73036
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rayvincent@coxinet.net
Tue, Mar 29, 2022 8:45 PM
Good analysis David. You are my go to guy but I still am not confortable giving a Town Administrator the authority to hire, fire or discipline in a Town setting.
Ray
From: David Weatherford
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 3:26 PM
To: 'Joe Weaver' ; oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Re: Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
I believe 12-106(1) and 12-106(6), when read together, give the town trustee form of government the greatest flexibility about how they can operate, and that if they want to operate like a city manager form of government (by giving control of personnel to a town administrator) they can do so by ordinance. The language below is from a Mannford ordinance in which they give power and duties to the Town Administrator that are identical to those of a city manager. We have done this for a number of years (because the board wants to operate that way) and all are happy with the way it works.
POWERS AND DUTIES OF TOWN ADMINISTRATOR.
The town administrator shall be the chief administrative officer and head of the administrative branch of the town government including all branches except the legislative and judicial. He shall execute the laws and ordinances and administer the government of the town and shall be responsible therefore, to the board of trustees. He shall:
-
Appoint, and when deemed necessary for the good of the service, lay off, suspend, demote or remove any officer or employee of the town, not an elected officer, except as he may authorize the head of a department to appoint, lay off, suspend, demote and remove subordinates in such department, office or agency, and except any who may be appointed otherwise pursuant to law;
-
Supervise and control, indirectly and directly all administrative departments, agencies, officers and employees appointed as hereinabove provided;
David L. Weatherford
Attorney At Law
1141 East 37th Street
Tulsa, OK 74105
(918) 743-8355
(918) 743-7478 (fax)
From: Joe Weaver jweaver@basslaw.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:16 PM
To: oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town, subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
joe@basslaw.net
www.basslaw.net
104 N. Rock Island Ave.
P.O. Box 157
El Reno, OK 73036
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Good analysis David. You are my go to guy but I still am not confortable giving a Town Administrator the authority to hire, fire or discipline in a Town setting.
Ray
From: David Weatherford
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 3:26 PM
To: 'Joe Weaver' ; oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Re: Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
I believe 12-106(1) and 12-106(6), when read together, give the town trustee form of government the greatest flexibility about how they can operate, and that if they want to operate like a city manager form of government (by giving control of personnel to a town administrator) they can do so by ordinance. The language below is from a Mannford ordinance in which they give power and duties to the Town Administrator that are identical to those of a city manager. We have done this for a number of years (because the board wants to operate that way) and all are happy with the way it works.
POWERS AND DUTIES OF TOWN ADMINISTRATOR.
The town administrator shall be the chief administrative officer and head of the administrative branch of the town government including all branches except the legislative and judicial. He shall execute the laws and ordinances and administer the government of the town and shall be responsible therefore, to the board of trustees. He shall:
1. Appoint, and when deemed necessary for the good of the service, lay off, suspend, demote or remove any officer or employee of the town, not an elected officer, except as he may authorize the head of a department to appoint, lay off, suspend, demote and remove subordinates in such department, office or agency, and except any who may be appointed otherwise pursuant to law;
2. Supervise and control, indirectly and directly all administrative departments, agencies, officers and employees appointed as hereinabove provided;
David L. Weatherford
Attorney At Law
1141 East 37th Street
Tulsa, OK 74105
(918) 743-8355
(918) 743-7478 (fax)
From: Joe Weaver <jweaver@basslaw.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:16 PM
To: oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town, subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
--------------------------------
Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
joe@basslaw.net
www.basslaw.net
104 N. Rock Island Ave.
P.O. Box 157
El Reno, OK 73036
NOTICE:
The information contained in this transmission is or may be protected by the attorney-client and/or the attorney work product privilege and is confidential. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity identified above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination or distribution of the accompanying communication is prohibited. No applicable privilege is waived by the party sending this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply and delete the original message from your system.
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David Weatherford
Tue, Mar 29, 2022 8:57 PM
Thanks Ray I think it is one of those can vs should - they can, but
whether they should will depend on the makeup of the board, the department
heads of the town and whether they will accept it, and the personability and
competence of the town administrator. In Mannford, it was very painful to
get to the point that it worked, and there were failures and disagreements
along the way since 2007, it has operated with basically no issue with all
accepting the idea that they operate as a city manager city.
David L. Weatherford
Attorney At Law
1141 East 37th Street
Tulsa, OK 74105
(918) 743-8355
(918) 743-7478 (fax)
From: rayvincent@coxinet.net rayvincent@coxinet.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 3:45 PM
To: David Weatherford davidweatherford@sbcglobal.net; 'Joe Weaver'
jweaver@basslaw.net; oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Re: Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Good analysis David. You are my go to guy but I still am not confortable
giving a Town Administrator the authority to hire, fire or discipline in a
Town setting.
Ray
From: David Weatherford
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 3:26 PM
To: 'Joe Weaver' ; oama@lists.imla.org mailto:oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Re: Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
I believe 12-106(1) and 12-106(6), when read together, give the town trustee
form of government the greatest flexibility about how they can operate, and
that if they want to operate like a city manager form of government (by
giving control of personnel to a town administrator) they can do so by
ordinance. The language below is from a Mannford ordinance in which they
give power and duties to the Town Administrator that are identical to those
of a city manager. We have done this for a number of years (because the
board wants to operate that way) and all are happy with the way it works.
POWERS AND DUTIES OF TOWN ADMINISTRATOR.
The town administrator shall be the chief administrative officer and head of
the administrative branch of the town government including all branches
except the legislative and judicial. He shall execute the laws and
ordinances and administer the government of the town and shall be
responsible therefore, to the board of trustees. He shall:
-
Appoint, and when deemed necessary for the good of the
service, lay off, suspend, demote or remove any officer or employee of the
town, not an elected officer, except as he may authorize the head of a
department to appoint, lay off, suspend, demote and remove subordinates in
such department, office or agency, and except any who may be appointed
otherwise pursuant to law;
-
Supervise and control, indirectly and directly all
administrative departments, agencies, officers and employees appointed as
hereinabove provided;
David L. Weatherford
Attorney At Law
1141 East 37th Street
Tulsa, OK 74105
(918) 743-8355
(918) 743-7478 (fax)
From: Joe Weaver <jweaver@basslaw.net mailto:jweaver@basslaw.net >
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:16 PM
To: oama@lists.imla.org mailto:oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator
to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of
policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including
employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town,
subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees
Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the
appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board
policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against
hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
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Attorney At Law
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Thanks Ray I think it is one of those can vs should - they can, but
whether they should will depend on the makeup of the board, the department
heads of the town and whether they will accept it, and the personability and
competence of the town administrator. In Mannford, it was very painful to
get to the point that it worked, and there were failures and disagreements
along the way since 2007, it has operated with basically no issue with all
accepting the idea that they operate as a city manager city.
David L. Weatherford
Attorney At Law
1141 East 37th Street
Tulsa, OK 74105
(918) 743-8355
(918) 743-7478 (fax)
From: rayvincent@coxinet.net <rayvincent@coxinet.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 3:45 PM
To: David Weatherford <davidweatherford@sbcglobal.net>; 'Joe Weaver'
<jweaver@basslaw.net>; oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Re: Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Good analysis David. You are my go to guy but I still am not confortable
giving a Town Administrator the authority to hire, fire or discipline in a
Town setting.
Ray
From: David Weatherford
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 3:26 PM
To: 'Joe Weaver' ; oama@lists.imla.org <mailto:oama@lists.imla.org>
Subject: [Oama] Re: Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
I believe 12-106(1) and 12-106(6), when read together, give the town trustee
form of government the greatest flexibility about how they can operate, and
that if they want to operate like a city manager form of government (by
giving control of personnel to a town administrator) they can do so by
ordinance. The language below is from a Mannford ordinance in which they
give power and duties to the Town Administrator that are identical to those
of a city manager. We have done this for a number of years (because the
board wants to operate that way) and all are happy with the way it works.
POWERS AND DUTIES OF TOWN ADMINISTRATOR.
The town administrator shall be the chief administrative officer and head of
the administrative branch of the town government including all branches
except the legislative and judicial. He shall execute the laws and
ordinances and administer the government of the town and shall be
responsible therefore, to the board of trustees. He shall:
1. Appoint, and when deemed necessary for the good of the
service, lay off, suspend, demote or remove any officer or employee of the
town, not an elected officer, except as he may authorize the head of a
department to appoint, lay off, suspend, demote and remove subordinates in
such department, office or agency, and except any who may be appointed
otherwise pursuant to law;
2. Supervise and control, indirectly and directly all
administrative departments, agencies, officers and employees appointed as
hereinabove provided;
David L. Weatherford
Attorney At Law
1141 East 37th Street
Tulsa, OK 74105
(918) 743-8355
(918) 743-7478 (fax)
From: Joe Weaver <jweaver@basslaw.net <mailto:jweaver@basslaw.net> >
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:16 PM
To: oama@lists.imla.org <mailto:oama@lists.imla.org>
Subject: [Oama] Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator
to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of
policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including
employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town,
subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees
Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the
appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board
policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against
hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
--------------------------------
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Larry Vickers
Tue, Mar 29, 2022 8:59 PM
I have a Town that utilizes a Town Administrator and he has the authority to suspend for up to 3 days (without pay I believe) in order to call a special meeting to have the Board act on his recommendations. Just a thought.
Larry Vickers, Jr.
Attorney At Law, P.L.L.C.
600 Emporia Street, Suite B
Muskogee, Oklahoma 74401
Phone: 918-682-5900
&
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Vian, Oklahoma 74962
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From: David Weatherford davidweatherford@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 3:26:43 PM
To: 'Joe Weaver'; oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Re: Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
I believe 12-106(1) and 12-106(6), when read together, give the town trustee form of government the greatest flexibility about how they can operate, and that if they want to operate like a city manager form of government (by giving control of personnel to a town administrator) they can do so by ordinance. The language below is from a Mannford ordinance in which they give power and duties to the Town Administrator that are identical to those of a city manager. We have done this for a number of years (because the board wants to operate that way) and all are happy with the way it works.
POWERS AND DUTIES OF TOWN ADMINISTRATOR.
The town administrator shall be the chief administrative officer and head of the administrative branch of the town government including all branches except the legislative and judicial. He shall execute the laws and ordinances and administer the government of the town and shall be responsible therefore, to the board of trustees. He shall:
-
Appoint, and when deemed necessary for the good of the service, lay off, suspend, demote or remove any officer or employee of the town, not an elected officer, except as he may authorize the head of a department to appoint, lay off, suspend, demote and remove subordinates in such department, office or agency, and except any who may be appointed otherwise pursuant to law;
-
Supervise and control, indirectly and directly all administrative departments, agencies, officers and employees appointed as hereinabove provided;
David L. Weatherford
Attorney At Law
1141 East 37th Street
Tulsa, OK 74105
(918) 743-8355
(918) 743-7478 (fax)
From: Joe Weaver jweaver@basslaw.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:16 PM
To: oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town, subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
joe@basslaw.netmailto:agbass@basslaw.net
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I have a Town that utilizes a Town Administrator and he has the authority to suspend for up to 3 days (without pay I believe) in order to call a special meeting to have the Board act on his recommendations. Just a thought.
Larry Vickers, Jr.
Attorney At Law, P.L.L.C.
600 Emporia Street, Suite B
Muskogee, Oklahoma 74401
Phone: 918-682-5900
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303 South Thornton
Vian, Oklahoma 74962
Phone: 918-773-4004
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From: David Weatherford <davidweatherford@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 3:26:43 PM
To: 'Joe Weaver'; oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Re: Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
I believe 12-106(1) and 12-106(6), when read together, give the town trustee form of government the greatest flexibility about how they can operate, and that if they want to operate like a city manager form of government (by giving control of personnel to a town administrator) they can do so by ordinance. The language below is from a Mannford ordinance in which they give power and duties to the Town Administrator that are identical to those of a city manager. We have done this for a number of years (because the board wants to operate that way) and all are happy with the way it works.
POWERS AND DUTIES OF TOWN ADMINISTRATOR.
The town administrator shall be the chief administrative officer and head of the administrative branch of the town government including all branches except the legislative and judicial. He shall execute the laws and ordinances and administer the government of the town and shall be responsible therefore, to the board of trustees. He shall:
1. Appoint, and when deemed necessary for the good of the service, lay off, suspend, demote or remove any officer or employee of the town, not an elected officer, except as he may authorize the head of a department to appoint, lay off, suspend, demote and remove subordinates in such department, office or agency, and except any who may be appointed otherwise pursuant to law;
2. Supervise and control, indirectly and directly all administrative departments, agencies, officers and employees appointed as hereinabove provided;
David L. Weatherford
Attorney At Law
1141 East 37th Street
Tulsa, OK 74105
(918) 743-8355
(918) 743-7478 (fax)
From: Joe Weaver <jweaver@basslaw.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:16 PM
To: oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town, subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
--------------------------------
Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
joe@basslaw.net<mailto:agbass@basslaw.net>
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Matt Love
Tue, Mar 29, 2022 10:46 PM
Chiming in to add a couple of thoughts.
11 O.S. 8-116 authorizes any statutory municipality with a population of
less than 5,000 to employ a part time CM. The question is whether this
limits non-council manager cities and towns in hiring a part time CM to
those under 5,000 (i.e. was this a statutory grant of authority that was
limited to certain municipalities) or whether the statute was adopted
because they were creating a funding source for those small communities to
hire that position. It's no longer in the statute, but when it was
originally adopted in 2008 (SB 1406) that statute contained an additional
subsection about funding and that same legislation created 74 O.S. 5017.8
allowing the commerce department, subject to appropriations, to setup a
funding program for those smaller communities to hire a part time CM.
That's a critical question. If the authority for, say, Towns, Aldermanic
and Strong Mayor municipalities to create a manager/administrator position
already existed, then adoption of 8-116 was nothing more than opening the
door to a funding source. If, however, those 3 forms of government didn't
already have that authority, then 8-116 created the authority but limited
it to smaller communities. Personally, I read the statutes (e.g. 11 O.S.
12-106(6) (authority for a Town Board to create offices other than
established by law and to assign functions and duties to offices defined
and not defined by the statutes)) as authorizing the creation of such a
position. There are some powers that Courts would likely view as
non-delegable, but I'm not sure that most day to day operational duties
would be non-delegable. They can likely be delegated to the Mayor under
12-105 (making the Mayor the ceremonial head of the Town government but
also allowing the Mayor to exercise other powers, duties and functions as
may be provided by law or local ordinance). If they can be delegated to the
Mayor by legislative action, why couldn't they be delegated to an
administrator or manager created by legislative action pursuant to
12-106(6)?
I would be remiss if I didn't point to 1982 OK AG 125. Now, the AG was
asked about compensation of Board members, including whether the Mayor
could be "employed" as the City Manager and receive additional compensation
for performing those duties. The AG correctly noted that the Board members
and Mayor cannot receive any compensation other than that provided for
their elected position. But in paragraph 6, the AG noted that 12-112
authorized the ability to establish and combine offices, but that the AG
could find no statutory provision authorizing the position of a City
Manager in a Town form of government. The AG never referenced 12-105 which
would authorize the delegation of additional powers to the Mayor, and given
that the AG spent all of 2 sentences addressing the
Mayor-as-compensated-City-Manager question, one whose answer was already
apparent through other statutes, I don't think they put a ton of effort
into looking for authority. But you at least need to know that's out there.
I would also point to the later 2012 OK AG 20 which recognized the power to
delegate authority to the Mayor, though not answering what kind of
authority could be delegated.
I am curious if some of those folks who were around in 2008 when SB 1406
was first adopted might have insight on the intent - whether it was really
to create a funding source for smaller communities or whether it was viewed
as a new delegated authority to create a position that was then limited to
smaller communities.
On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 3:59 PM Larry Vickers larry@lvickerslaw.com wrote:
I have a Town that utilizes a Town Administrator and he has the authority
to suspend for up to 3 days (without pay I believe) in order to call a
special meeting to have the Board act on his recommendations. Just a
thought.
Larry Vickers, Jr.
Attorney At Law, P.L.L.C.
600 Emporia Street, Suite B
*Muskogee, Oklahoma 74401 *
Phone: 918-682-5900
&
303 South Thornton
Vian, Oklahoma 74962
Phone: 918-773-4004
http://www.lvickerslaw.com http://www.lvickerslaw.com/
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From: David Weatherford davidweatherford@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 3:26:43 PM
To: 'Joe Weaver'; oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Re: Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
I believe 12-106(1) and 12-106(6), when read together, give the town
trustee form of government the greatest flexibility about how they can
operate, and that if they want to operate like a city manager form of
government (by giving control of personnel to a town administrator) they
can do so by ordinance. The language below is from a Mannford ordinance in
which they give power and duties to the Town Administrator that are
identical to those of a city manager. We have done this for a number of
years (because the board wants to operate that way) and all are happy with
the way it works.
POWERS AND DUTIES OF TOWN ADMINISTRATOR.
The town administrator shall be the chief administrative officer and head
of the administrative branch of the town government including all branches
except the legislative and judicial. He shall execute the laws and
ordinances and administer the government of the town and shall be
responsible therefore, to the board of trustees. He shall:
-
Appoint, and when deemed necessary for the good of the
service, lay off, suspend, demote or remove any officer or employee of the
town, not an elected officer, except as he may authorize the head of a
department to appoint, lay off, suspend, demote and remove subordinates in
such department, office or agency, and except any who may be appointed
otherwise pursuant to law;
-
Supervise and control, indirectly and directly all
administrative departments, agencies, officers and employees appointed as
hereinabove provided;
David L. Weatherford
Attorney At Law
1141 East 37th Street
Tulsa, OK 74105
(918) 743-8355
(918) 743-7478 (fax)
From: Joe Weaver jweaver@basslaw.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:16 PM
To: oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator
to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of
policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including
employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town,
subject to Board approval if required.
Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees
Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the
appointment and removal of designated employees.
As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board
policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against
hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
joe@basslaw.net agbass@basslaw.net
www.basslaw.net
104 N. Rock Island Ave.
P.O. Box 157
El Reno, OK 73036
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Chiming in to add a couple of thoughts.
11 O.S. 8-116 authorizes any statutory municipality with a population of
less than 5,000 to employ a part time CM. The question is whether this
limits non-council manager cities and towns in hiring a part time CM to
those under 5,000 (i.e. was this a statutory grant of authority that was
limited to certain municipalities) or whether the statute was adopted
because they were creating a funding source for those small communities to
hire that position. It's no longer in the statute, but when it was
originally adopted in 2008 (SB 1406) that statute contained an additional
subsection about funding and that same legislation created 74 O.S. 5017.8
allowing the commerce department, subject to appropriations, to setup a
funding program for those smaller communities to hire a part time CM.
That's a critical question. If the authority for, say, Towns, Aldermanic
and Strong Mayor municipalities to create a manager/administrator position
already existed, then adoption of 8-116 was nothing more than opening the
door to a funding source. If, however, those 3 forms of government didn't
already have that authority, then 8-116 created the authority but limited
it to smaller communities. Personally, I read the statutes (e.g. 11 O.S.
12-106(6) (authority for a Town Board to create offices other than
established by law and to assign functions and duties to offices defined
and not defined by the statutes)) as authorizing the creation of such a
position. There are some powers that Courts would likely view as
non-delegable, but I'm not sure that most day to day operational duties
would be non-delegable. They can likely be delegated to the Mayor under
12-105 (making the Mayor the ceremonial head of the Town government but
also allowing the Mayor to exercise other powers, duties and functions as
may be provided by law or local ordinance). If they can be delegated to the
Mayor by legislative action, why couldn't they be delegated to an
administrator or manager created by legislative action pursuant to
12-106(6)?
I would be remiss if I didn't point to 1982 OK AG 125. Now, the AG was
asked about compensation of Board members, including whether the Mayor
could be "employed" as the City Manager and receive additional compensation
for performing those duties. The AG correctly noted that the Board members
and Mayor cannot receive any compensation other than that provided for
their elected position. But in paragraph 6, the AG noted that 12-112
authorized the ability to establish and combine offices, but that the AG
could find no statutory provision authorizing the position of a City
Manager in a Town form of government. The AG never referenced 12-105 which
would authorize the delegation of additional powers to the Mayor, and given
that the AG spent all of 2 sentences addressing the
Mayor-as-compensated-City-Manager question, one whose answer was already
apparent through other statutes, I don't think they put a ton of effort
into looking for authority. But you at least need to know that's out there.
I would also point to the later 2012 OK AG 20 which recognized the power to
delegate authority to the Mayor, though not answering what kind of
authority could be delegated.
I am curious if some of those folks who were around in 2008 when SB 1406
was first adopted might have insight on the intent - whether it was really
to create a funding source for smaller communities or whether it was viewed
as a new delegated authority to create a position that was then limited to
smaller communities.
On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 3:59 PM Larry Vickers <larry@lvickerslaw.com> wrote:
> I have a Town that utilizes a Town Administrator and he has the authority
> to suspend for up to 3 days (without pay I believe) in order to call a
> special meeting to have the Board act on his recommendations. Just a
> thought.
>
>
> *Larry Vickers, Jr.*
> *Attorney At Law, P.L.L.C.*
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> *600 Emporia Street, Suite B*
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> *From:* David Weatherford <davidweatherford@sbcglobal.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2022 3:26:43 PM
> *To:* 'Joe Weaver'; oama@lists.imla.org
> *Subject:* [Oama] Re: Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
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>
> I believe 12-106(1) and 12-106(6), when read together, give the town
> trustee form of government the greatest flexibility about how they can
> operate, and that if they want to operate like a city manager form of
> government (by giving control of personnel to a town administrator) they
> can do so by ordinance. The language below is from a Mannford ordinance in
> which they give power and duties to the Town Administrator that are
> identical to those of a city manager. We have done this for a number of
> years (because the board wants to operate that way) and all are happy with
> the way it works.
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>
>
> POWERS AND DUTIES OF TOWN ADMINISTRATOR.
>
> The town administrator shall be the chief administrative officer and head
> of the administrative branch of the town government including all branches
> except the legislative and judicial. He shall execute the laws and
> ordinances and administer the government of the town and shall be
> responsible therefore, to the board of trustees. He shall:
>
> 1. Appoint, and when deemed necessary for the good of the
> service, lay off, suspend, demote or remove any officer or employee of the
> town, not an elected officer, except as he may authorize the head of a
> department to appoint, lay off, suspend, demote and remove subordinates in
> such department, office or agency, and except any who may be appointed
> otherwise pursuant to law;
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> 2. Supervise and control, indirectly and directly all
> administrative departments, agencies, officers and employees appointed as
> hereinabove provided;
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> *David L. Weatherford*
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> *From:* Joe Weaver <jweaver@basslaw.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:16 PM
> *To:* oama@lists.imla.org
> *Subject:* [Oama] Town Board of Trustees Form of Government
>
>
>
> Town (11 O.S. § 12-101 et seq.) wants to hire a Town Manager/Administrator
> to handle the majority of the duties the Mayor is now handling (outside of
> policy decisions) such as the day to day operations of the Town, including
> employee relations, discipline, etc. and to act on behalf of the Town,
> subject to Board approval if required.
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>
>
> Section 12-106 provides that all powers of a statutory Board of Trustees
> Town, shall be vested in the board, including without limitation the
> appointment and removal of designated employees.
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>
>
> As long as the Town Manager/Administrator acts in furtherance of Board
> policy or direction, it appears to me that there is no prohibition against
> hiring a Town Manager/Administrator.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts or direction will be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
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>
>
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> Joe Weaver
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