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The Art of Electronics

AF
Adrian Flynn
Sat, Apr 18, 2015 9:50 PM

Thanks,
Found it in Ohio.

72
Adrian KF7DYU
On Apr 18, 2015 5:40 PM, "Orin Eman" orin.eman@gmail.com wrote:

Try searching for the T&S V2 ISBN,

3540004297

on www.abebooks.com

$40 for the International Edition from a somewhat reputable seller.
Since this is an international list, I have no qualms about passing
this on.  Whether you can stand the almost transparent paper and
smudgy ink is a different matter.

Orin.

On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Marv @ Home marvin.gozum@comcast.net
wrote:

When AoE was released in 1980, the intended audience was electronics for

a

non-EE major.  How this morphed into an engineering text shows how what

is

'core' has changed.  It had a friendly style, akin to having a instructor
with you.  AoE was best read in chapter sequence through the

fundamentals,

and higher chapters expect readers to know material from previous

chapters

without reference to it.  On occasion it used concepts a jump forward but
could be figured out by cross referencing its index.  It was a semester
course for us back in early 1980s.

AoE v2 updated more in the digital domain with many corrected errata and
typos from V1.

I'd wait for V3 2nd printing or later, as typos from 1st printing are

being

reported as well as I read references to unpublished chapter "Xs" not in
this printing.

T&S is an excellent text, if you already know the material and just need

a

refresher.  It gets to the point quickly.

Only 2 T&S editions were translated to English; German has ?10+ editions.
The only edition I ever looked at in print was v1, and it was $180+ in
1990s, compared to $50 for AoE new, or $20+ used.  T&S used in the USA is
harder to find, and few V1 I've seen sell near $100+.

Student or someone with a cursory interest, cost, writing style and

similar

breadth could be a tie breaker, AoE V3 sells for ~$100 delivered, and V2
$20-30 used.  T&S V2 from 2008 is ~$US260 delivered.

At 04:33 AM 4/17/2015, Attila Kinali wrote:

On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 08:24:38 +0000
"Poul-Henning Kamp" phk@phk.freebsd.dk wrote:

How does it compare to the gold standard of the Tietze&Schenk?

No idea.

If you know a bit of german, get yourself a copy of it.
You will love the in-depth explanations of the various
electronics compontents. Also you can use it to knock
out any burglar, should the need arise ;-)

You have to remember that not everybody here are professional
electronics
people, I'm a software person who knows enough electronics to be

useful

without being dangerous, and I've certainly learned a lot from AOE3
over breakfast this past week.

True that. The AoE gives at least a nice overview of quite a few
electronics techniques. And probably not the worst thing you can
start with, when you are new to electronics.

That said, I kind of miss the amateur radio/electronics literature
that was so abundant in the 80s. They really did a good job of
introducing various circuits and how successfully build them if
you don't have any professional equipment.

                     Attila Kinali

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Thanks, Found it in Ohio. 72 Adrian KF7DYU On Apr 18, 2015 5:40 PM, "Orin Eman" <orin.eman@gmail.com> wrote: > Try searching for the T&S V2 ISBN, > > 3540004297 > > on www.abebooks.com > > $40 for the International Edition from a somewhat reputable seller. > Since this is an international list, I have no qualms about passing > this on. Whether you can stand the almost transparent paper and > smudgy ink is a different matter. > > Orin. > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Marv @ Home <marvin.gozum@comcast.net> > wrote: > > When AoE was released in 1980, the intended audience was electronics for > a > > non-EE major. How this morphed into an engineering text shows how what > is > > 'core' has changed. It had a friendly style, akin to having a instructor > > with you. AoE was best read in chapter sequence through the > fundamentals, > > and higher chapters expect readers to know material from previous > chapters > > without reference to it. On occasion it used concepts a jump forward but > > could be figured out by cross referencing its index. It was a semester > > course for us back in early 1980s. > > > > AoE v2 updated more in the digital domain with many corrected errata and > > typos from V1. > > > > I'd wait for V3 2nd printing or later, as typos from 1st printing are > being > > reported as well as I read references to unpublished chapter "Xs" not in > > this printing. > > > > T&S is an excellent text, if you already know the material and just need > a > > refresher. It gets to the point quickly. > > > > Only 2 T&S editions were translated to English; German has ?10+ editions. > > The only edition I ever looked at in print was v1, and it was $180+ in > > 1990s, compared to $50 for AoE new, or $20+ used. T&S used in the USA is > > harder to find, and few V1 I've seen sell near $100+. > > > > Student or someone with a cursory interest, cost, writing style and > similar > > breadth could be a tie breaker, AoE V3 sells for ~$100 delivered, and V2 > > $20-30 used. T&S V2 from 2008 is ~$US260 delivered. > > > > > > At 04:33 AM 4/17/2015, Attila Kinali wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 08:24:38 +0000 > >> "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote: > >> > >> > >How does it compare to the gold standard of the Tietze&Schenk? > >> > > >> > No idea. > >> > >> If you know a bit of german, get yourself a copy of it. > >> You will love the in-depth explanations of the various > >> electronics compontents. Also you can use it to knock > >> out any burglar, should the need arise ;-) > >> > >> > You have to remember that not everybody here are professional > >> > electronics > >> > people, I'm a software person who knows enough electronics to be > useful > >> > without being dangerous, and I've certainly learned a lot from AOE3 > >> > over breakfast this past week. > >> > >> True that. The AoE gives at least a nice overview of quite a few > >> electronics techniques. And probably not the worst thing you can > >> start with, when you are new to electronics. > >> > >> That said, I kind of miss the amateur radio/electronics literature > >> that was so abundant in the 80s. They really did a good job of > >> introducing various circuits and how successfully build them if > >> you don't have any professional equipment. > >> > >> Attila Kinali > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
BC
Brooke Clarke
Sat, Apr 18, 2015 11:26 PM

Hi Orin:

Thanks very much.  I've got a copy of T&S on order.

Mail_Attachment --
Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html
http://www.prc68.com/I/DietNutrition.html
Orin Eman wrote:

Try searching for the T&S V2 ISBN,

3540004297

on www.abebooks.com

$40 for the International Edition from a somewhat reputable seller.
Since this is an international list, I have no qualms about passing
this on.  Whether you can stand the almost transparent paper and
smudgy ink is a different matter.

Orin.

On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Marv @ Home marvin.gozum@comcast.net wrote:

When AoE was released in 1980, the intended audience was electronics for a
non-EE major.  How this morphed into an engineering text shows how what is
'core' has changed.  It had a friendly style, akin to having a instructor
with you.  AoE was best read in chapter sequence through the fundamentals,
and higher chapters expect readers to know material from previous chapters
without reference to it.  On occasion it used concepts a jump forward but
could be figured out by cross referencing its index.  It was a semester
course for us back in early 1980s.

AoE v2 updated more in the digital domain with many corrected errata and
typos from V1.

I'd wait for V3 2nd printing or later, as typos from 1st printing are being
reported as well as I read references to unpublished chapter "Xs" not in
this printing.

T&S is an excellent text, if you already know the material and just need a
refresher.  It gets to the point quickly.

Only 2 T&S editions were translated to English; German has ?10+ editions.
The only edition I ever looked at in print was v1, and it was $180+ in
1990s, compared to $50 for AoE new, or $20+ used.  T&S used in the USA is
harder to find, and few V1 I've seen sell near $100+.

Student or someone with a cursory interest, cost, writing style and similar
breadth could be a tie breaker, AoE V3 sells for ~$100 delivered, and V2
$20-30 used.  T&S V2 from 2008 is ~$US260 delivered.

At 04:33 AM 4/17/2015, Attila Kinali wrote:

On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 08:24:38 +0000
"Poul-Henning Kamp" phk@phk.freebsd.dk wrote:

How does it compare to the gold standard of the Tietze&Schenk?

No idea.

If you know a bit of german, get yourself a copy of it.
You will love the in-depth explanations of the various
electronics compontents. Also you can use it to knock
out any burglar, should the need arise ;-)

You have to remember that not everybody here are professional
electronics
people, I'm a software person who knows enough electronics to be useful
without being dangerous, and I've certainly learned a lot from AOE3
over breakfast this past week.

True that. The AoE gives at least a nice overview of quite a few
electronics techniques. And probably not the worst thing you can
start with, when you are new to electronics.

That said, I kind of miss the amateur radio/electronics literature
that was so abundant in the 80s. They really did a good job of
introducing various circuits and how successfully build them if
you don't have any professional equipment.

                      Attila Kinali

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Hi Orin: Thanks very much. I've got a copy of T&S on order. Mail_Attachment -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html http://www.prc68.com/I/DietNutrition.html Orin Eman wrote: > Try searching for the T&S V2 ISBN, > > 3540004297 > > on www.abebooks.com > > $40 for the International Edition from a somewhat reputable seller. > Since this is an international list, I have no qualms about passing > this on. Whether you can stand the almost transparent paper and > smudgy ink is a different matter. > > Orin. > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Marv @ Home <marvin.gozum@comcast.net> wrote: >> When AoE was released in 1980, the intended audience was electronics for a >> non-EE major. How this morphed into an engineering text shows how what is >> 'core' has changed. It had a friendly style, akin to having a instructor >> with you. AoE was best read in chapter sequence through the fundamentals, >> and higher chapters expect readers to know material from previous chapters >> without reference to it. On occasion it used concepts a jump forward but >> could be figured out by cross referencing its index. It was a semester >> course for us back in early 1980s. >> >> AoE v2 updated more in the digital domain with many corrected errata and >> typos from V1. >> >> I'd wait for V3 2nd printing or later, as typos from 1st printing are being >> reported as well as I read references to unpublished chapter "Xs" not in >> this printing. >> >> T&S is an excellent text, if you already know the material and just need a >> refresher. It gets to the point quickly. >> >> Only 2 T&S editions were translated to English; German has ?10+ editions. >> The only edition I ever looked at in print was v1, and it was $180+ in >> 1990s, compared to $50 for AoE new, or $20+ used. T&S used in the USA is >> harder to find, and few V1 I've seen sell near $100+. >> >> Student or someone with a cursory interest, cost, writing style and similar >> breadth could be a tie breaker, AoE V3 sells for ~$100 delivered, and V2 >> $20-30 used. T&S V2 from 2008 is ~$US260 delivered. >> >> >> At 04:33 AM 4/17/2015, Attila Kinali wrote: >>> On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 08:24:38 +0000 >>> "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote: >>> >>>>> How does it compare to the gold standard of the Tietze&Schenk? >>>> No idea. >>> If you know a bit of german, get yourself a copy of it. >>> You will love the in-depth explanations of the various >>> electronics compontents. Also you can use it to knock >>> out any burglar, should the need arise ;-) >>> >>>> You have to remember that not everybody here are professional >>>> electronics >>>> people, I'm a software person who knows enough electronics to be useful >>>> without being dangerous, and I've certainly learned a lot from AOE3 >>>> over breakfast this past week. >>> True that. The AoE gives at least a nice overview of quite a few >>> electronics techniques. And probably not the worst thing you can >>> start with, when you are new to electronics. >>> >>> That said, I kind of miss the amateur radio/electronics literature >>> that was so abundant in the 80s. They really did a good job of >>> introducing various circuits and how successfully build them if >>> you don't have any professional equipment. >>> >>> Attila Kinali >> >> _______________________________________________ >> volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >