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Dave Sublette
Thu, Jun 29, 2017 10:20 PM
I posted this on the microwave reflector just a bit ago. It occurred to me that this group might also enjoy it:
I don’t suppose I am the first one to do this, but I repaired a female N connector on my 7/8” hardline. The center pin had broken off. I thought it was pretty slick how I did it, so I will post it here.
I recovered a center pin from a broken, cheap Chinese adapter. With a Dremel and cutoff wheel, I dressed the broken stub of the pin. Using the flat side of the cutoff wheel as a mini-grinder and a jeweler’s file, I reduced the diameters of the new pin and the old stub slightly. Then I removed about a quarter inch of UT-141 Shield and slipped it over the two pieces and soldered.
The finished product is strong and should last through many connectings.
Now I know that altering the geometry of these connectors changes the impedance, so I measured with my caliper to see just how badly I had altered the impedance. I used the 138Log b/a. I found some surprising results. An original, unaltered connector yielded the value of 55.35 ohms. With the repaired connector having a .141 center diameter now, the value calculated to be 52.75 ohms. What!!? Do you mean to say that I actually improved the impedance with my repair? I doubt it very much. The SWR and loss measurements on the repaired cable show no significant degradation, compared to the original. I will accept it for what it is. I have avoided buying another connector to repair this cable run.
73,
Dave, K4TO
I posted this on the microwave reflector just a bit ago. It occurred to me that this group might also enjoy it:
I don’t suppose I am the first one to do this, but I repaired a female N connector on my 7/8” hardline. The center pin had broken off. I thought it was pretty slick how I did it, so I will post it here.
I recovered a center pin from a broken, cheap Chinese adapter. With a Dremel and cutoff wheel, I dressed the broken stub of the pin. Using the flat side of the cutoff wheel as a mini-grinder and a jeweler’s file, I reduced the diameters of the new pin and the old stub slightly. Then I removed about a quarter inch of UT-141 Shield and slipped it over the two pieces and soldered.
The finished product is strong and should last through many connectings.
Now I know that altering the geometry of these connectors changes the impedance, so I measured with my caliper to see just how badly I had altered the impedance. I used the 138Log b/a. I found some surprising results. An original, unaltered connector yielded the value of 55.35 ohms. With the repaired connector having a .141 center diameter now, the value calculated to be 52.75 ohms. What!!? Do you mean to say that I actually improved the impedance with my repair? I doubt it very much. The SWR and loss measurements on the repaired cable show no significant degradation, compared to the original. I will accept it for what it is. I have avoided buying another connector to repair this cable run.
73,
Dave, K4TO
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Zack Widup
Thu, Jun 29, 2017 10:42 PM
Very interesting. I have one to repair myself, so this is useful!
By the way, I found out that the innards of all the N - C series
connectors all fit inside one another. N, BNC, TNC, C, etc. A male BNC
without the bayonet locking connector will fit inside an N or TNC
connector.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Dave Sublette via mvus-list
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I posted this on the microwave reflector just a bit ago. It occurred to me that this group might also enjoy it:
I don’t suppose I am the first one to do this, but I repaired a female N connector on my 7/8” hardline. The center pin had broken off. I thought it was pretty slick how I did it, so I will post it here.
I recovered a center pin from a broken, cheap Chinese adapter. With a Dremel and cutoff wheel, I dressed the broken stub of the pin. Using the flat side of the cutoff wheel as a mini-grinder and a jeweler’s file, I reduced the diameters of the new pin and the old stub slightly. Then I removed about a quarter inch of UT-141 Shield and slipped it over the two pieces and soldered.
The finished product is strong and should last through many connectings.
Now I know that altering the geometry of these connectors changes the impedance, so I measured with my caliper to see just how badly I had altered the impedance. I used the 138Log b/a. I found some surprising results. An original, unaltered connector yielded the value of 55.35 ohms. With the repaired connector having a .141 center diameter now, the value calculated to be 52.75 ohms. What!!? Do you mean to say that I actually improved the impedance with my repair? I doubt it very much. The SWR and loss measurements on the repaired cable show no significant degradation, compared to the original. I will accept it for what it is. I have avoided buying another connector to repair this cable run.
73,
Dave, K4TO
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Very interesting. I have one to repair myself, so this is useful!
By the way, I found out that the innards of all the N - C series
connectors all fit inside one another. N, BNC, TNC, C, etc. A male BNC
without the bayonet locking connector will fit inside an N or TNC
connector.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Dave Sublette via mvus-list
<mvus-list@febo.com> wrote:
> I posted this on the microwave reflector just a bit ago. It occurred to me that this group might also enjoy it:
>
> I don’t suppose I am the first one to do this, but I repaired a female N connector on my 7/8” hardline. The center pin had broken off. I thought it was pretty slick how I did it, so I will post it here.
>
> I recovered a center pin from a broken, cheap Chinese adapter. With a Dremel and cutoff wheel, I dressed the broken stub of the pin. Using the flat side of the cutoff wheel as a mini-grinder and a jeweler’s file, I reduced the diameters of the new pin and the old stub slightly. Then I removed about a quarter inch of UT-141 Shield and slipped it over the two pieces and soldered.
>
> The finished product is strong and should last through many connectings.
>
> Now I know that altering the geometry of these connectors changes the impedance, so I measured with my caliper to see just how badly I had altered the impedance. I used the 138Log b/a. I found some surprising results. An original, unaltered connector yielded the value of 55.35 ohms. With the repaired connector having a .141 center diameter now, the value calculated to be 52.75 ohms. What!!? Do you mean to say that I actually improved the impedance with my repair? I doubt it very much. The SWR and loss measurements on the repaired cable show no significant degradation, compared to the original. I will accept it for what it is. I have avoided buying another connector to repair this cable run.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave, K4TO
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True, but be careful about the different center pin diameters. It's ok for a quick test to put the different series together carefully but don't push too hard.
From Tom Holmes, N8ZM
On Jun 29, 2017, at 6:42 PM, Zack Widup via mvus-list mvus-list@febo.com wrote:
Very interesting. I have one to repair myself, so this is useful!
By the way, I found out that the innards of all the N - C series
connectors all fit inside one another. N, BNC, TNC, C, etc. A male BNC
without the bayonet locking connector will fit inside an N or TNC
connector.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Dave Sublette via mvus-list
mvus-list@febo.com wrote:
I posted this on the microwave reflector just a bit ago. It occurred to me that this group might also enjoy it:
I don’t suppose I am the first one to do this, but I repaired a female N connector on my 7/8” hardline. The center pin had broken off. I thought it was pretty slick how I did it, so I will post it here.
I recovered a center pin from a broken, cheap Chinese adapter. With a Dremel and cutoff wheel, I dressed the broken stub of the pin. Using the flat side of the cutoff wheel as a mini-grinder and a jeweler’s file, I reduced the diameters of the new pin and the old stub slightly. Then I removed about a quarter inch of UT-141 Shield and slipped it over the two pieces and soldered.
The finished product is strong and should last through many connectings.
Now I know that altering the geometry of these connectors changes the impedance, so I measured with my caliper to see just how badly I had altered the impedance. I used the 138Log b/a. I found some surprising results. An original, unaltered connector yielded the value of 55.35 ohms. With the repaired connector having a .141 center diameter now, the value calculated to be 52.75 ohms. What!!? Do you mean to say that I actually improved the impedance with my repair? I doubt it very much. The SWR and loss measurements on the repaired cable show no significant degradation, compared to the original. I will accept it for what it is. I have avoided buying another connector to repair this cable run.
73,
Dave, K4TO
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True, but be careful about the different center pin diameters. It's ok for a quick test to put the different series together carefully but don't push too hard.
From Tom Holmes, N8ZM
> On Jun 29, 2017, at 6:42 PM, Zack Widup via mvus-list <mvus-list@febo.com> wrote:
>
> Very interesting. I have one to repair myself, so this is useful!
>
> By the way, I found out that the innards of all the N - C series
> connectors all fit inside one another. N, BNC, TNC, C, etc. A male BNC
> without the bayonet locking connector will fit inside an N or TNC
> connector.
>
> 73, Zack W9SZ
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Dave Sublette via mvus-list
> <mvus-list@febo.com> wrote:
>> I posted this on the microwave reflector just a bit ago. It occurred to me that this group might also enjoy it:
>>
>> I don’t suppose I am the first one to do this, but I repaired a female N connector on my 7/8” hardline. The center pin had broken off. I thought it was pretty slick how I did it, so I will post it here.
>>
>> I recovered a center pin from a broken, cheap Chinese adapter. With a Dremel and cutoff wheel, I dressed the broken stub of the pin. Using the flat side of the cutoff wheel as a mini-grinder and a jeweler’s file, I reduced the diameters of the new pin and the old stub slightly. Then I removed about a quarter inch of UT-141 Shield and slipped it over the two pieces and soldered.
>>
>> The finished product is strong and should last through many connectings.
>>
>> Now I know that altering the geometry of these connectors changes the impedance, so I measured with my caliper to see just how badly I had altered the impedance. I used the 138Log b/a. I found some surprising results. An original, unaltered connector yielded the value of 55.35 ohms. With the repaired connector having a .141 center diameter now, the value calculated to be 52.75 ohms. What!!? Do you mean to say that I actually improved the impedance with my repair? I doubt it very much. The SWR and loss measurements on the repaired cable show no significant degradation, compared to the original. I will accept it for what it is. I have avoided buying another connector to repair this cable run.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Dave, K4TO
>>
>>
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Sat, Jul 1, 2017 6:13 PM
Hi Dave,
I wonder if it would be ok if I copy this email to the "Cheese Bits"
newsletter of the Mt Airy VHF Radio Club (the "Packrats") some time this
summer or fall?
73,
Lenny W2BVH (editor)
On 6/29/2017 6:20 PM, Dave Sublette via mvus-list wrote:
I posted this on the microwave reflector just a bit ago. It occurred to me that this group might also enjoy it:
I don’t suppose I am the first one to do this, but I repaired a female N connector on my 7/8” hardline. The center pin had broken off. I thought it was pretty slick how I did it, so I will post it here.
I recovered a center pin from a broken, cheap Chinese adapter. With a Dremel and cutoff wheel, I dressed the broken stub of the pin. Using the flat side of the cutoff wheel as a mini-grinder and a jeweler’s file, I reduced the diameters of the new pin and the old stub slightly. Then I removed about a quarter inch of UT-141 Shield and slipped it over the two pieces and soldered.
The finished product is strong and should last through many connectings.
Now I know that altering the geometry of these connectors changes the impedance, so I measured with my caliper to see just how badly I had altered the impedance. I used the 138Log b/a. I found some surprising results. An original, unaltered connector yielded the value of 55.35 ohms. With the repaired connector having a .141 center diameter now, the value calculated to be 52.75 ohms. What!!? Do you mean to say that I actually improved the impedance with my repair? I doubt it very much. The SWR and loss measurements on the repaired cable show no significant degradation, compared to the original. I will accept it for what it is. I have avoided buying another connector to repair this cable run.
73,
Dave, K4TO
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Hi Dave,
I wonder if it would be ok if I copy this email to the "Cheese Bits"
newsletter of the Mt Airy VHF Radio Club (the "Packrats") some time this
summer or fall?
73,
Lenny W2BVH (editor)
On 6/29/2017 6:20 PM, Dave Sublette via mvus-list wrote:
> I posted this on the microwave reflector just a bit ago. It occurred to me that this group might also enjoy it:
>
> I don’t suppose I am the first one to do this, but I repaired a female N connector on my 7/8” hardline. The center pin had broken off. I thought it was pretty slick how I did it, so I will post it here.
>
> I recovered a center pin from a broken, cheap Chinese adapter. With a Dremel and cutoff wheel, I dressed the broken stub of the pin. Using the flat side of the cutoff wheel as a mini-grinder and a jeweler’s file, I reduced the diameters of the new pin and the old stub slightly. Then I removed about a quarter inch of UT-141 Shield and slipped it over the two pieces and soldered.
>
> The finished product is strong and should last through many connectings.
>
> Now I know that altering the geometry of these connectors changes the impedance, so I measured with my caliper to see just how badly I had altered the impedance. I used the 138Log b/a. I found some surprising results. An original, unaltered connector yielded the value of 55.35 ohms. With the repaired connector having a .141 center diameter now, the value calculated to be 52.75 ohms. What!!? Do you mean to say that I actually improved the impedance with my repair? I doubt it very much. The SWR and loss measurements on the repaired cable show no significant degradation, compared to the original. I will accept it for what it is. I have avoided buying another connector to repair this cable run.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave, K4TO
>
>
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Dave Sublette
Sat, Jul 1, 2017 6:35 PM
Hello Lenny,
Yes, you may publish this item in the newsletter. I am pleased if anything I do helps someone. I appreciate your asking to do this. I am using the repaired feed line on 6 meters now and worked 25 QSOs as far as California yesterday. I could have bought a replacement connector and not been too sad, but recovering an item that might otherwise have gone to the recycle bin is a great satisfaction.
73,
Dave, K4TO
On Jul 1, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Lenny via mvus-list mvus-list@febo.com wrote:
Hi Dave,
I wonder if it would be ok if I copy this email to the "Cheese Bits" newsletter of the Mt Airy VHF Radio Club (the "Packrats") some time this summer or fall?
73,
Lenny W2BVH (editor)
On 6/29/2017 6:20 PM, Dave Sublette via mvus-list wrote:
I posted this on the microwave reflector just a bit ago. It occurred to me that this group might also enjoy it:
I don’t suppose I am the first one to do this, but I repaired a female N connector on my 7/8” hardline. The center pin had broken off. I thought it was pretty slick how I did it, so I will post it here.
I recovered a center pin from a broken, cheap Chinese adapter. With a Dremel and cutoff wheel, I dressed the broken stub of the pin. Using the flat side of the cutoff wheel as a mini-grinder and a jeweler’s file, I reduced the diameters of the new pin and the old stub slightly. Then I removed about a quarter inch of UT-141 Shield and slipped it over the two pieces and soldered.
The finished product is strong and should last through many connectings.
Now I know that altering the geometry of these connectors changes the impedance, so I measured with my caliper to see just how badly I had altered the impedance. I used the 138Log b/a. I found some surprising results. An original, unaltered connector yielded the value of 55.35 ohms. With the repaired connector having a .141 center diameter now, the value calculated to be 52.75 ohms. What!!? Do you mean to say that I actually improved the impedance with my repair? I doubt it very much. The SWR and loss measurements on the repaired cable show no significant degradation, compared to the original. I will accept it for what it is. I have avoided buying another connector to repair this cable run.
73,
Dave, K4TO
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Hello Lenny,
Yes, you may publish this item in the newsletter. I am pleased if anything I do helps someone. I appreciate your asking to do this. I am using the repaired feed line on 6 meters now and worked 25 QSOs as far as California yesterday. I could have bought a replacement connector and not been too sad, but recovering an item that might otherwise have gone to the recycle bin is a great satisfaction.
73,
Dave, K4TO
> On Jul 1, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Lenny via mvus-list <mvus-list@febo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I wonder if it would be ok if I copy this email to the "Cheese Bits" newsletter of the Mt Airy VHF Radio Club (the "Packrats") some time this summer or fall?
>
> 73,
>
> Lenny W2BVH (editor)
>
>
> On 6/29/2017 6:20 PM, Dave Sublette via mvus-list wrote:
>> I posted this on the microwave reflector just a bit ago. It occurred to me that this group might also enjoy it:
>>
>> I don’t suppose I am the first one to do this, but I repaired a female N connector on my 7/8” hardline. The center pin had broken off. I thought it was pretty slick how I did it, so I will post it here.
>>
>> I recovered a center pin from a broken, cheap Chinese adapter. With a Dremel and cutoff wheel, I dressed the broken stub of the pin. Using the flat side of the cutoff wheel as a mini-grinder and a jeweler’s file, I reduced the diameters of the new pin and the old stub slightly. Then I removed about a quarter inch of UT-141 Shield and slipped it over the two pieces and soldered.
>>
>> The finished product is strong and should last through many connectings.
>>
>> Now I know that altering the geometry of these connectors changes the impedance, so I measured with my caliper to see just how badly I had altered the impedance. I used the 138Log b/a. I found some surprising results. An original, unaltered connector yielded the value of 55.35 ohms. With the repaired connector having a .141 center diameter now, the value calculated to be 52.75 ohms. What!!? Do you mean to say that I actually improved the impedance with my repair? I doubt it very much. The SWR and loss measurements on the repaired cable show no significant degradation, compared to the original. I will accept it for what it is. I have avoided buying another connector to repair this cable run.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Dave, K4TO
>>
>>
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