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Boat Price Negoitiations

JW
Joe W
Sun, Mar 12, 2006 11:58 PM

Evening all,
Well, I am getting close to actually putting an offer on a boat. This is my first foray into offer/accept dealings and I'm a bit tentative as to how to proceed. During my inspection of the boat the broker (not listing broker but same firm) hinted that the vessel could probably be bought for X. X is quite a bit lower (only 72%) than what the seller is asking but almost hit the head of what I am willing to pay.  Now, knowing what broker thinks boat is worth, do I offer a bit lower, a lot lower or give the price but indicate firm. Also, I know there are significant items which need repair...genset for example. How does knowing these items need repair and will turn up in survey affect how I offer? Perhaps the broker was already discounting this in his estimation.

Bottom line is I want to give a fair price but leave as little money on the table as possible. What effect does lowballing have on negoitiations? Is it off putting? I mean will it severely dampen his enthusiasm to sell to me. Some might say...well all he can do is say no....no is not what i want, i want a counter to my price...
Help...
Joel
St Pete, FL
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Evening all, Well, I am getting close to actually putting an offer on a boat. This is my first foray into offer/accept dealings and I'm a bit tentative as to how to proceed. During my inspection of the boat the broker (not listing broker but same firm) hinted that the vessel could probably be bought for X. X is quite a bit lower (only 72%) than what the seller is asking but almost hit the head of what I am willing to pay. Now, knowing what broker thinks boat is worth, do I offer a bit lower, a lot lower or give the price but indicate firm. Also, I know there are significant items which need repair...genset for example. How does knowing these items need repair and will turn up in survey affect how I offer? Perhaps the broker was already discounting this in his estimation. Bottom line is I want to give a fair price but leave as little money on the table as possible. What effect does lowballing have on negoitiations? Is it off putting? I mean will it severely dampen his enthusiasm to sell to me. Some might say...well all he can do is say no....no is not what i want, i want a counter to my price... Help... Joel St Pete, FL Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
D
dd@gregsteckel.com
Mon, Mar 13, 2006 12:53 AM

I have only bought two boats; one was a trade in to a dealer and the last
one was via broker.  All owners and brokers expect that the asking price on
a boat will be worked down by the buyer.  Therefore, it is always high.  I
would do a comparable search on Yachtworld.com for similar boats with
similar equipment to get a feel of the market for this type of boat to
determine what I would be willing to pay for it.  Keep in mind that the
selling price most likely will have to meet financial and insurance
requirements as well.  Do a personal inspection on the boat and start to
mentally lower your offer based on what you deem needs to be repaired to
meet insurance or other operational and safety requirements; and then make
an offer accordingly with the caveat of an acceptable survey.  After the
survey, you can change your offer if other repairs become evident.

Greg Steckel
M/V Different Drummer
President 35 Sundeck


www.chesapeaketrawlering.com
www.chesapeakesailor.com
www.fmyc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:cruiser6003@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:59 PM
To: Trawlers-n-Trawlering
Subject: T&T: Boat Price Negoitiations

Evening all,
Well, I am getting close to actually putting an offer on a boat. This is
my first foray into offer/accept dealings and I'm a bit tentative as to how
to proceed. During my inspection of the boat the broker (not listing broker
but same firm) hinted that the vessel could probably be bought for X. X is
quite a bit lower (only 72%) than what the seller is asking but almost hit
the head of what I am willing to pay.  Now, knowing what broker thinks boat
is worth, do I offer a bit lower, a lot lower or give the price but indicate
firm. Also, I know there are significant items which need repair...genset
for example. How does knowing these items need repair and will turn up in
survey affect how I offer? Perhaps the broker was already discounting this
in his estimation.

Bottom line is I want to give a fair price but leave as little money on
the table as possible. What effect does lowballing have on negoitiations? Is
it off putting? I mean will it severely dampen his enthusiasm to sell to me.
Some might say...well all he can do is say no....no is not what i want, i
want a counter to my price...
Help...
Joel
St Pete, FL
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I have only bought two boats; one was a trade in to a dealer and the last one was via broker. All owners and brokers expect that the asking price on a boat will be worked down by the buyer. Therefore, it is always high. I would do a comparable search on Yachtworld.com for similar boats with similar equipment to get a feel of the market for this type of boat to determine what I would be willing to pay for it. Keep in mind that the selling price most likely will have to meet financial and insurance requirements as well. Do a personal inspection on the boat and start to mentally lower your offer based on what you deem needs to be repaired to meet insurance or other operational and safety requirements; and then make an offer accordingly with the caveat of an acceptable survey. After the survey, you can change your offer if other repairs become evident. Greg Steckel M/V Different Drummer President 35 Sundeck ____________________ www.chesapeaketrawlering.com www.chesapeakesailor.com www.fmyc.org -----Original Message----- From: Joe W [mailto:cruiser6003@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:59 PM To: Trawlers-n-Trawlering Subject: T&T: Boat Price Negoitiations Evening all, Well, I am getting close to actually putting an offer on a boat. This is my first foray into offer/accept dealings and I'm a bit tentative as to how to proceed. During my inspection of the boat the broker (not listing broker but same firm) hinted that the vessel could probably be bought for X. X is quite a bit lower (only 72%) than what the seller is asking but almost hit the head of what I am willing to pay. Now, knowing what broker thinks boat is worth, do I offer a bit lower, a lot lower or give the price but indicate firm. Also, I know there are significant items which need repair...genset for example. How does knowing these items need repair and will turn up in survey affect how I offer? Perhaps the broker was already discounting this in his estimation. Bottom line is I want to give a fair price but leave as little money on the table as possible. What effect does lowballing have on negoitiations? Is it off putting? I mean will it severely dampen his enthusiasm to sell to me. Some might say...well all he can do is say no....no is not what i want, i want a counter to my price... Help... Joel St Pete, FL Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe send email to trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
KT
Kimberly Templeton
Mon, Mar 13, 2006 1:23 AM

Put your offer in at what your willing to pay ,if he counters then ask for a
survey and adjust your offer based on what is learned.

On 3/12/06, dd@gregsteckel.com dd@gregsteckel.com wrote:

I have only bought two boats; one was a trade in to a dealer and the last
one was via broker.  All owners and brokers expect that the asking price
on
a boat will be worked down by the buyer.  Therefore, it is always high.  I
would do a comparable search on Yachtworld.com for similar boats with
similar equipment to get a feel of the market for this type of boat to
determine what I would be willing to pay for it.  Keep in mind that the
selling price most likely will have to meet financial and insurance
requirements as well.  Do a personal inspection on the boat and start to
mentally lower your offer based on what you deem needs to be repaired to
meet insurance or other operational and safety requirements; and then make
an offer accordingly with the caveat of an acceptable survey.  After the
survey, you can change your offer if other repairs become evident.

Greg Steckel
M/V Different Drummer
President 35 Sundeck


www.chesapeaketrawlering.com
www.chesapeakesailor.com
www.fmyc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:cruiser6003@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:59 PM
To: Trawlers-n-Trawlering
Subject: T&T: Boat Price Negoitiations

Evening all,
Well, I am getting close to actually putting an offer on a boat. This is
my first foray into offer/accept dealings and I'm a bit tentative as to
how
to proceed. During my inspection of the boat the broker (not listing
broker
but same firm) hinted that the vessel could probably be bought for X. X is
quite a bit lower (only 72%) than what the seller is asking but almost hit
the head of what I am willing to pay.  Now, knowing what broker thinks
boat
is worth, do I offer a bit lower, a lot lower or give the price but
indicate
firm. Also, I know there are significant items which need repair...genset
for example. How does knowing these items need repair and will turn up in
survey affect how I offer? Perhaps the broker was already discounting this
in his estimation.

Bottom line is I want to give a fair price but leave as little money on
the table as possible. What effect does lowballing have on negoitiations?
Is
it off putting? I mean will it severely dampen his enthusiasm to sell to
me.
Some might say...well all he can do is say no....no is not what i want, i
want a counter to my price...
Help...
Joel
St Pete, FL
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Put your offer in at what your willing to pay ,if he counters then ask for a survey and adjust your offer based on what is learned. On 3/12/06, dd@gregsteckel.com <dd@gregsteckel.com> wrote: > > I have only bought two boats; one was a trade in to a dealer and the last > one was via broker. All owners and brokers expect that the asking price > on > a boat will be worked down by the buyer. Therefore, it is always high. I > would do a comparable search on Yachtworld.com for similar boats with > similar equipment to get a feel of the market for this type of boat to > determine what I would be willing to pay for it. Keep in mind that the > selling price most likely will have to meet financial and insurance > requirements as well. Do a personal inspection on the boat and start to > mentally lower your offer based on what you deem needs to be repaired to > meet insurance or other operational and safety requirements; and then make > an offer accordingly with the caveat of an acceptable survey. After the > survey, you can change your offer if other repairs become evident. > > > Greg Steckel > M/V Different Drummer > President 35 Sundeck > ____________________ > www.chesapeaketrawlering.com > www.chesapeakesailor.com > www.fmyc.org > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe W [mailto:cruiser6003@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:59 PM > To: Trawlers-n-Trawlering > Subject: T&T: Boat Price Negoitiations > > Evening all, > Well, I am getting close to actually putting an offer on a boat. This is > my first foray into offer/accept dealings and I'm a bit tentative as to > how > to proceed. During my inspection of the boat the broker (not listing > broker > but same firm) hinted that the vessel could probably be bought for X. X is > quite a bit lower (only 72%) than what the seller is asking but almost hit > the head of what I am willing to pay. Now, knowing what broker thinks > boat > is worth, do I offer a bit lower, a lot lower or give the price but > indicate > firm. Also, I know there are significant items which need repair...genset > for example. How does knowing these items need repair and will turn up in > survey affect how I offer? Perhaps the broker was already discounting this > in his estimation. > > Bottom line is I want to give a fair price but leave as little money on > the table as possible. What effect does lowballing have on negoitiations? > Is > it off putting? I mean will it severely dampen his enthusiasm to sell to > me. > Some might say...well all he can do is say no....no is not what i want, i > want a counter to my price... > Help... > Joel > St Pete, FL > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe send email to > trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE > and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. > Unauthorized use is prohibited. > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe send email to > trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.