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TWL: RE: Diesel Engine Experiences 001

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Albin43Tr@aol.com
Sat, Oct 9, 1999 2:37 AM

CapnWill and all;

Thanks, CapnWill, for the engine data. It was interesting. There is one other
source of valuable engine performance that is available.  It is the Propeller
Law Curve and is available from most engine manufacturers, such as Cummins.
Cummins calls it a Marine Performance Curve.  It more accurately portrays how
horsepower and fuel consumption relates to RPM using a "typical" propeller
and allows for normal transmission losses.  Cummins sent me a copy for the
6BT5.9M engines I have. They went so far as to Fed Ex it to me! Can't beat
that.  The accuracy of these curves relative to a specific boat usually is
dependent upon how well matched the wheel is to the engine and boat as a
unit. Past experience with these curves have proven them to be quite
accurate.  I have not had the opportunity to check the Cummin's Marine
Performance Curve against our Albin 43 and its Cummins 210's, but it will
give a very good estimate at any rate.  The Marine Performance Curve that
Cummins sent to me does not exactly coincide with the data in the Operation
and Maintenance Manual for these engines, as the data in the manual is more
generic.

Usually, the Propellor Law Curve data is included with other performance
graphs for marine engines so it is just a matter of picking out the right
curve. Be sure to read all the notes to fully understand what the graphs are
telling you.

Caterpillar marine performance curves for current production engines are
available on the Internet and can be downloaded and printed.  These might not
be accurate for older engines though.

If these curves are requested from an engine manufacturer, they will probably
want the same data Cummins did; complete model number, serial number and date
of manufacture, to be sure they are providing the correct data.

Wayne
M/V Celestial
Albin 43

CapnWill and all; Thanks, CapnWill, for the engine data. It was interesting. There is one other source of valuable engine performance that is available. It is the Propeller Law Curve and is available from most engine manufacturers, such as Cummins. Cummins calls it a Marine Performance Curve. It more accurately portrays how horsepower and fuel consumption relates to RPM using a "typical" propeller and allows for normal transmission losses. Cummins sent me a copy for the 6BT5.9M engines I have. They went so far as to Fed Ex it to me! Can't beat that. The accuracy of these curves relative to a specific boat usually is dependent upon how well matched the wheel is to the engine and boat as a unit. Past experience with these curves have proven them to be quite accurate. I have not had the opportunity to check the Cummin's Marine Performance Curve against our Albin 43 and its Cummins 210's, but it will give a very good estimate at any rate. The Marine Performance Curve that Cummins sent to me does not exactly coincide with the data in the Operation and Maintenance Manual for these engines, as the data in the manual is more generic. Usually, the Propellor Law Curve data is included with other performance graphs for marine engines so it is just a matter of picking out the right curve. Be sure to read all the notes to fully understand what the graphs are telling you. Caterpillar marine performance curves for current production engines are available on the Internet and can be downloaded and printed. These might not be accurate for older engines though. If these curves are requested from an engine manufacturer, they will probably want the same data Cummins did; complete model number, serial number and date of manufacture, to be sure they are providing the correct data. Wayne M/V Celestial Albin 43
A
asi@visionet.org
Sat, Oct 9, 1999 3:19 PM

Hi All
In the past I had a GM engine and never needed to prime the fuel line.
My new Deutz's have standard Bosch injection system. Should I buy 15 gpm
Racor with primer pump. These engines are rated at 90 hp @ 1800 rpm and
total fuel FLOW @ 2200 is 13gph.
Peter Denton

Hi All In the past I had a GM engine and never needed to prime the fuel line. My new Deutz's have standard Bosch injection system. Should I buy 15 gpm Racor with primer pump. These engines are rated at 90 hp @ 1800 rpm and total fuel FLOW @ 2200 is 13gph. Peter Denton
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alabat@msn.com
Sat, Oct 9, 1999 10:11 PM

Before I answer your question. Please clear up some facts.

Why do you need a 15 gp minute racor when you show the engine total fuel
flow at 13 gp hour. I am sure it is a typo but need to check.
Please advise
Subject: Re: TWL: RE: Diesel Engine Experiences 001

Hi All
In the past I had a GM engine and never needed to prime the fuel line.
My new Deutz's have standard Bosch injection system. Should I buy 15 gpm
Racor with primer pump. These engines are rated at 90 hp @ 1800 rpm and
total fuel FLOW @ 2200 is 13gph.
Peter Denton

Before I answer your question. Please clear up some facts. Why do you need a 15 gp minute racor when you show the engine total fuel flow at 13 gp hour. I am sure it is a typo but need to check. Please advise Subject: Re: TWL: RE: Diesel Engine Experiences 001 > Hi All > In the past I had a GM engine and never needed to prime the fuel line. > My new Deutz's have standard Bosch injection system. Should I buy 15 gpm > Racor with primer pump. These engines are rated at 90 hp @ 1800 rpm and > total fuel FLOW @ 2200 is 13gph. > Peter Denton > >
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asi@visionet.org
Sun, Oct 10, 1999 4:59 AM

You guys dont miss a thing. It was a typo. I was looking at a 15gph
filter
Peter Denton

You guys dont miss a thing. It was a typo. I was looking at a 15gph filter Peter Denton