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Good day every one, Thank you Tim, > Got in touch with Patrick Meyer from Pacific Expedition Yachts. They are building a a raised pilot house version in a 44 x 16' beam; Forms vs function: which criteria could i select to choose between: http://www.powercatsnz.com/public/index.cfm?fuseaction=app.showdesign&ID=192 or: http://www.trawlercatmarine.com/designer.html or a trimaran for that matter? Ideas? Safe winds. Sinclair Dubier-Routier Managua Nicaragua ________________________________ From: "power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com" <power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com> To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com Sent: Friday, October 2, 2009 10:00:01 PM Subject: Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 54, Issue 3 Send Power-Catamaran mailing list submissions to power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/power-catamaran or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com You can reach the person managing the list at power-catamaran-owner@lists.samurai.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Power-Catamaran digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Rodgers 29 powercat starts production (Georgs Kolesnikovs) 2. Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' (Timothy Park) 3. Re: Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' (Georgs Kolesnikovs) 4. Re: Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' (R. Jason Adams) 5. Passage maker 42'/47' Power cat (Sinclair Dubier-Routier) 6. Re: Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' (Bill Fleenor) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:14:23 -0400 From: Georgs Kolesnikovs <gxk@earthlink.net> To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: [PCW] Rodgers 29 powercat starts production Message-ID: <1D389D84-ADA5-4230-B1BB-A7CEB0D032EC@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes All hands-- As some of you know, Bob Phillips, a list participant, is involved in the development of a small powercat in the BVI. An update on the project has been posted at Power Catamaran World: http://powercatamaran.typepad.com/homeport/2009/10/rogers-29-takes-shape-in-t he-bvi.html Bob tells me that "the second hull is out of the mold, first one at 400 lb., second at 370, so on target for a boat less gear of less than 1500 and a full fuel and gear of 2700. We expect to be assembled and in the water by the end of the month. As soon as we have pictures we'll get a web site up." Best wishes, Bob! --Georgs Georgs Kolesnikovs Power Catamaran World http://www.powercatworld.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:40:27 -0700 From: "Timothy Park" <tpark@transasusa.com> To: <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: [PCW] Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' Message-ID: <00e401ca438f$cfb80b50$6f2821f0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, This is a great blog and thanks for keeping it up! Sinclair, you might also want to look at the Pacific Expedition 45 (www.pacificexpedition.com), it looks like a great boat and my initial information requests from the gents there were quite positive. I'm new to the power cat scene but this boat looks fantastic. Tim Park -----Original Message----- From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 21:00 To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com Subject: Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 54, Issue 2 Send Power-Catamaran mailing list submissions to power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/power-catamaran or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com You can reach the person managing the list at power-catamaran-owner@lists.samurai.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Power-Catamaran digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' (Sinclair Dubier-Routier) 2. Re: Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' (Mark) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:20:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Sinclair Dubier-Routier <sinclair_dubier@yahoo.com> To: Power Catamaran <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: [PCW] Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' Message-ID: <660087.78974.qm@web65108.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mga. 02.10.09. Greetings to all, Great blog! Just a thought, may be you could share your thoughts: - Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' Basic specifications: - Size: 42'/47': BOA of a 42' on 47' LOA hulls, (+/- 2')nothing is written in stone here - Type: Single handed passage maker power catamaran - Material of Construction: : High end quality core FRP epoxy - Use: Live aboard, low preventive maintenance -utilitarian- amenities for two, long range cruising. - Range: 15 t. fully loaded; 1000 gl. for 2000 nm @ 10 kt; Bermuda Azores, allowance made for wind, sea, reser ve, gen set burn, etc. - Speed: 16 to 18 kt, cruise 12 kt - Power: Two continuous rated 100 hp, CPP - Aesthetic: Low windage + fly bridge with partial hard top cover - Time frame: Eighteen months +/- six - Price: 800,000,00 U.S. $ ex works including two anchors, spare parts, the like. Solutions: either one-off from scratch ! or modify an existing design or a less than ten years used boat from: Tennant, Crowther, Grainger, Shuttleworth, Kelsall, Hughes, Given, Lidgard, Hill, Thompson, etc., pssage makerpower cat on displacement hulls. Other idea? Your comments are most welcomed, thank you for your time. Kind regards, safe winds. Sinclair Recently read: At sea, Murphy's law is overly optimistic. Sinclair Dubier-Routier >Managua, Nicaragua >Central America > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:48:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark <mark424x@yahoo.com> To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: Re: [PCW] Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' Message-ID: <145542.51195.qm@web31814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sinclair, this is pretty close to your spec....http://mecat.com/power/powerspecs.htm doesn't carry as much fuel as your spec but with 5+ nmpg <9 knots (http://mecat.com/power/powerspecs.htm), you'll get the range, we'll see if real world figues stack up, but that's measured data, not projections. might have to slow down when working in real seas. Not a proven Nordy, but their sailboats have an excellent reputation for build quality. looks like there is a flybridge option, not sure if you spec'd smaller hp diesels would help range or not. maybe a bit of weight savings could be converted in increased fuel carriage. As some else suggested, with a water maker you could carry less water and more fuel. Mark Marina del Rey, CA ________________________________ From: Sinclair Dubier-Routier <sinclair_dubier@yahoo.com> To: Power Catamaran <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Thu, October 1, 2009 1:20:04 PM Subject: [PCW] Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' Mga. 02.10.09. Greetings to all, Great blog! Just a thought, may be you could share your thoughts: - Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' Basic specifications: - Size: 42'/47': BOA of a 42' on 47' LOA hulls, (+/- 2')nothing is written in stone here - Type: Single handed passage maker power catamaran - Material of Construction: : High end quality core FRP epoxy - Use: Live aboard, low preventive maintenance -utilitarian- amenities for two, long range cruising. - Range: 15 t. fully loaded; 1000 gl. for 2000 nm @ 10 kt; Bermuda Azores, allowance made for wind, sea, reser ve, gen set burn, etc. - Speed: 16 to 18 kt, cruise 12 kt - Power: Two continuous rated 100 hp, CPP - Aesthetic: Low windage + fly bridge with partial hard top cover - Time frame: Eighteen months +/- six - Price: 800,000,00 U.S. $ ex works including two anchors, spare parts, the like. Solutions: either one-off from scratch ! or modify an existing design or a less than ten years used boat from: Tennant, Crowther, Grainger, Shuttleworth, Kelsall, Hughes, Given, Lidgard, Hill, Thompson, etc., pssage makerpower cat on displacement hulls. Other idea? Your comments are most welcomed, thank you for your time. Kind regards, safe winds. Sinclair Recently read: At sea, Murphy's law is overly optimistic. Sinclair Dubier-Routier >Managua, Nicaragua >Central America > _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List End of Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 54, Issue 2 ********************************************** __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4474 (20091001) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:03:36 -0400 From: Georgs Kolesnikovs <gxk@earthlink.net> To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: Re: [PCW] Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' Message-ID: <4731AF9D-2221-489E-B2D8-F9C7012A01A3@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes We have a listee who is having a boat built at Pacific Expedition. Perhaps he could provide on update on the Double-Wide project. He should be getting mighty close to a launch. --Georgs On 2-Oct-09, at 2:40 PM, Timothy Park wrote: > Hi all, > > This is a great blog and thanks for keeping it up! Sinclair, you > might also > want to look at the Pacific Expedition 45 > (www.pacificexpedition.com), it > looks like a great boat and my initial information requests from the > gents > there were quite positive. I'm new to the power cat scene but this > boat > looks fantastic. > > Tim Park ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:51:41 -0400 From: "R. Jason Adams" <rjasonadams@gmail.com> To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: Re: [PCW] Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' Message-ID: <2f8e2ccc0910021451w13dff32cnf697e5108199e35c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello, I was checking out their site and noticed the following. It looks like it may have launched.. beautiful cat! http://pacificexpedition.blogspot.com/2009_06_21_archive.html I'm falling in love with their designs .. anyone have an idea on the pricing for the PE45 or PE55? Robert Adams On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Georgs Kolesnikovs <gxk@earthlink.net> wrote: > We have a listee who is having a boat built at Pacific Expedition. Perhaps > he could provide on update on the Double-Wide project. He should be getting > mighty close to a launch. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:23:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Sinclair Dubier-Routier <sinclair_dubier@yahoo.com> To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com Subject: [PCW] Passage maker 42'/47' Power cat Message-ID: <520432.16504.qm@web65105.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Managua, 03.10.09. Mark, Thank you very much for your suggestion, yes i visited their site and heard kind words from an other listee who ordered hull # 6. Definately to keep in my folder as their reputation of quality seems well established. This listee told me that on its maiden "voyage" seas to a trawler show she encountered rough seas and behaved beyond the expectations of teh builder so said his wife. He also mentionned the new Volvo engines which production started in 2009 ans should be ready to be dropped in the boat by 2010 which fits perfectly his schedule. Have a great day, Sinclair Managua, Nicaragua. Today's Topics: 1. Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' (Sinclair Dubier-Routier) 2. Re: Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' (Mark) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:20:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Sinclair Dubier-Routier <sinclair_dubier@yahoo.com> To: Power Catamaran <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: [PCW] Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' Message-ID: <660087.78974.qm@web65108.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mga. 02.10.09. Greetings to all, Great blog! Just a thought, may be you could share your thoughts: - Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' Basic specifications: - Size: 42'/47': BOA of a 42' on 47' LOA hulls, (+/- 2')nothing is written in stone here - Type: Single handed passage maker power catamaran - Material of Construction: : High end quality core FRP epoxy - Use: Live aboard, low preventive maintenance -utilitarian- amenities for two, long range cruising. - Range: 15 t. fully loaded; 1000 gl. for 2000 nm @ 10 kt; Bermuda Azores, allowance made for wind, sea, reser ve, gen set burn, etc. - Speed: 16 to 18 kt, cruise 12 kt - Power: Two continuous rated 100 hp, CPP - Aesthetic: Low windage + fly bridge with partial hard top cover - Time frame: Eighteen months +/- six - Price: 800,000,00 U.S. $ ex works including two anchors, spare parts, the like. Solutions: either one-off from scratch ! or modify an existing design or a less than ten years used boat from: Tennant, Crowther, Grainger, Shuttleworth, Kelsall, Hughes, Given, Lidgard, Hill, Thompson, etc., pssage makerpower cat on displacement hulls. Other idea? Your comments are most welcomed, thank you for your time. Kind regards, safe winds. Sinclair Recently read: At sea, Murphy's law is overly optimistic. Sinclair Dubier-Routier >Managua, Nicaragua >Central America > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:48:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark <mark424x@yahoo.com> To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: Re: [PCW] Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' Message-ID: <145542.51195.qm@web31814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sinclair, this is pretty close to your spec....http://mecat.com/power/powerspecs.htm doesn't carry as much fuel as your spec but with 5+ nmpg <9 knots (http://mecat.com/power/powerspecs.htm), you'll get the range, we'll see if real world figues stack up, but that's measured data, not projections. might have to slow down when working in real seas. Not a proven Nordy, but their sailboats have an excellent reputation for build quality. looks like there is a flybridge option, not sure if you spec'd smaller hp diesels would help range or not. maybe a bit of weight savings could be converted in increased fuel carriage. As some else suggested, with a water maker you could carry less water and more fuel. Mark Marina del Rey, CA ________________________________ From: Sinclair Dubier-Routier <sinclair_dubier@yahoo.com> To: Power Catamaran <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Thu, October 1, 2009 1:20:04 PM Subject: [PCW] Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' Mga. 02.10.09. Greetings to all, Great blog! Just a thought, may be you could share your thoughts: - Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' Basic specifications: - Size: 42'/47': BOA of a 42' on 47' LOA hulls, (+/- 2')nothing is written in stone here - Type: Single handed passage maker power catamaran - Material of Construction: : High end quality core FRP epoxy - Use: Live aboard, low preventive maintenance -utilitarian- amenities for two, long range cruising. - Range: 15 t. fully loaded; 1000 gl. for 2000 nm @ 10 kt; Bermuda Azores, allowance made for wind, sea, reser ve, gen set burn, etc. - Speed: 16 to 18 kt, cruise 12 kt - Power: Two continuous rated 100 hp, CPP - Aesthetic: Low windage + fly bridge with partial hard top cover - Time frame: Eighteen months +/- six - Price: 800,000,00 U.S. $ ex works including two anchors, spare parts, the like. Solutions: either one-off from scratch ! or modify an existing design or a less than ten years used boat from: Tennant, Crowther, Grainger, Shuttleworth, Kelsall, Hughes, Given, Lidgard, Hill, Thompson, etc., pssage makerpower cat on displacement hulls. Other idea? Your comments are most welcomed, thank you for your time. Kind regards, safe winds. Sinclair Recently read: At sea, Murphy's law is overly optimistic. Sinclair Dubier-Routier >Managua, Nicaragua >Central America > _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List End of Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 54, Issue 2 ********************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:15:54 -0700 From: "Bill Fleenor" <wefleenor@ucdavis.edu> To: <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: Re: [PCW] Passage maker power catamaran 42'/47' Message-ID: <5D61BD42CB5F42F59D8967FF921A5649@FleenorMobile> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Georgs, Don't know how you missed it, but we launched Double-Wide on June 22 and the crew is now working on finishing off the interior. I have been a little out of the process having undergone open-heart surgery on July 1. You can see the launch photos at: http://cid-981a4ebf7ab5aaca.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/2009%20Constructio n/6%5E_09 Double-Wide is not exactly the same layout as the Pacific Expedition Yachts, but is quite similar. I'm enjoying following your travels which is likely how you missed my launch email. Bill Fleenor Double-Wide Toledo, OR [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List End of Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 54, Issue 3 **********************************************