alternative power sources

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Graham
Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:34 PM

Hi Dennis,

I was actually referring to power conservation and using a 24 volt anchor
windlass instead of a 12 volt anchor windlass as the 24 volt model draws
half the amount of current out of the batteries to do the same job.  ".using
24 volt equipment instead of 12 volt will require you to run a generator for
a shorter period of time to top up the batteries and this will save fuel and
put less carbon into the atmosphere.  To take this one step further; if you
have 120 or 240 volts available from a generator then you should use it for
the anchor windlass and davit, etc."

Using a higher voltage so that the equipment draws less current allows you
to run smaller sized wires that cost less and weigh less and doesn't strain
the batteries like a 12 volt windlass.

Cheers,

Graham

Captain Graham Pfister

President & Principle Designer

TrawlerCat Marine Designs

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:05:46 -0600

From: "Dennis Raedeke" dennis@wildmountain.com

To: "Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com

Subject: [PCW] alternative power sources

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Graham,

Ohms law proves that the higher the voltage the lower the power draw, so

using 24 volt equipment instead of 12 volt will require you to run a

generator for a shorter period of time to top up the batteries and this will

save fuel and put less carbon into the atmosphere

I think you should review ohm's law

P=I X E

Just because the voltage is higher that does not mean it takes less energy
to

produce power.

Dennis Raedeke Wild Wind IV

Hi Dennis, I was actually referring to power conservation and using a 24 volt anchor windlass instead of a 12 volt anchor windlass as the 24 volt model draws half the amount of current out of the batteries to do the same job. ".using 24 volt equipment instead of 12 volt will require you to run a generator for a shorter period of time to top up the batteries and this will save fuel and put less carbon into the atmosphere. To take this one step further; if you have 120 or 240 volts available from a generator then you should use it for the anchor windlass and davit, etc." Using a higher voltage so that the equipment draws less current allows you to run smaller sized wires that cost less and weigh less and doesn't strain the batteries like a 12 volt windlass. Cheers, Graham Captain Graham Pfister President & Principle Designer TrawlerCat Marine Designs Message: 5 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:05:46 -0600 From: "Dennis Raedeke" <dennis@wildmountain.com> To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: [PCW] alternative power sources Message-ID: <1D4ACEEDA71742338A91D577D024BD02@dennisr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Graham, Ohms law proves that the higher the voltage the lower the power draw, so using 24 volt equipment instead of 12 volt will require you to run a generator for a shorter period of time to top up the batteries and this will save fuel and put less carbon into the atmosphere I think you should review ohm's law P=I X E Just because the voltage is higher that does not mean it takes less energy to produce power. Dennis Raedeke Wild Wind IV
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Dennis Raedeke
Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:04 PM

Graham,

There is no power conservation using 24v compared to 12v. P=I X E  If E= 12
and I= 10 P=120  If E=24 and I= 5 P=120. As you can see the power is the
same and the energy to produce it would be the same. The advantage of using
24v is that as you can see the current is 1/2/ as you say the wire size i
reduced and you will have less heat for the same amount of power in
alternators and motors. When you use 24v as the primary voltage you will
need to also have a 12v battery for the items that are not available in 24v.
Fortunately there is an equalizer sold the will draw 12 equally from the 2
batteries that make up the 24v. The suggestion of using the lethal voltage
of 120vacor 240vac for the items you suggest is not to my likening.

Check this out with your good friend Arlid.

Captain Dennis Raedeke

President Muller Boat Company

Hi Dennis,

I was actually referring to power conservation and using a 24 volt anchor
windlass instead of a 12 volt anchor windlass as the 24 volt model draws
half the amount of current out of the batteries to do the same job.
".using
24 volt equipment instead of 12 volt will require you to run a generator
for
a shorter period of time to top up the batteries and this will save fuel
and
put less carbon into the atmosphere.  To take this one step further; if
you
have 120 or 240 volts available from a generator then you should use it
for
the anchor windlass and davit, etc."

Using a higher voltage so that the equipment draws less current allows you
to run smaller sized wires that cost less and weigh less and doesn't
strain
the batteries like a 12 volt windlass.

Cheers,

Graham

Captain Graham Pfister

President & Principle Designer

TrawlerCat Marine Designs

Message: 5

Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:05:46 -0600

From: "Dennis Raedeke" dennis@wildmountain.com

To: "Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com

Subject: [PCW] alternative power sources

Message-ID: 1D4ACEEDA71742338A91D577D024BD02@dennisr

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Graham,

Ohms law proves that the higher the voltage the lower the power draw, so

using 24 volt equipment instead of 12 volt will require you to run a

generator for a shorter period of time to top up the batteries and this
will

save fuel and put less carbon into the atmosphere

I think you should review ohm's law

P=I X E

Just because the voltage is higher that does not mean it takes less energy
to

produce power.

Dennis Raedeke Wild Wind IV


Power-Catamaran Mailing List

Graham, There is no power conservation using 24v compared to 12v. P=I X E If E= 12 and I= 10 P=120 If E=24 and I= 5 P=120. As you can see the power is the same and the energy to produce it would be the same. The advantage of using 24v is that as you can see the current is 1/2/ as you say the wire size i reduced and you will have less heat for the same amount of power in alternators and motors. When you use 24v as the primary voltage you will need to also have a 12v battery for the items that are not available in 24v. Fortunately there is an equalizer sold the will draw 12 equally from the 2 batteries that make up the 24v. The suggestion of using the lethal voltage of 120vacor 240vac for the items you suggest is not to my likening. Check this out with your good friend Arlid. Captain Dennis Raedeke President Muller Boat Company > Hi Dennis, > > > > I was actually referring to power conservation and using a 24 volt anchor > windlass instead of a 12 volt anchor windlass as the 24 volt model draws > half the amount of current out of the batteries to do the same job. > ".using > 24 volt equipment instead of 12 volt will require you to run a generator > for > a shorter period of time to top up the batteries and this will save fuel > and > put less carbon into the atmosphere. To take this one step further; if > you > have 120 or 240 volts available from a generator then you should use it > for > the anchor windlass and davit, etc." > > > > Using a higher voltage so that the equipment draws less current allows you > to run smaller sized wires that cost less and weigh less and doesn't > strain > the batteries like a 12 volt windlass. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Graham > > > > Captain Graham Pfister > > President & Principle Designer > > TrawlerCat Marine Designs > > > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:05:46 -0600 > > From: "Dennis Raedeke" <dennis@wildmountain.com> > > To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> > > Subject: [PCW] alternative power sources > > Message-ID: <1D4ACEEDA71742338A91D577D024BD02@dennisr> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Graham, > > > > Ohms law proves that the higher the voltage the lower the power draw, so > > using 24 volt equipment instead of 12 volt will require you to run a > > generator for a shorter period of time to top up the batteries and this > will > > save fuel and put less carbon into the atmosphere > > > > > > I think you should review ohm's law > > > > P=I X E > > > > Just because the voltage is higher that does not mean it takes less energy > to > > produce power. > > > > Dennis Raedeke Wild Wind IV > _______________________________________________ > Power-Catamaran Mailing List