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Bob Austin
Tue, May 23, 2006 4:24 AM

Sorry to disagree with Paul.  It seems that when someone dies there is a lot
of attention, and rightfully so.  This weekend in the Orange Beach/Pensacola
area there were two capsizes of monohull power vessels.  In both cases the
people aboard were well prepared, had on life jackets and in one case
activated an EPIRB.  No lives were lost. The cause was "rough seas". One of
the mono hulls was in the 34 foot size range and the other was in the 25 foot
range.

If you look at the achievements of the Glacier Bay 26 foot boats boats they
are truely remarkable for the long distance runs: Hawaii to Midway, New York
to Bermuda and Seattle to the Berring sea!  None of these are hardly the types
of trips the average trailerable monhull would consider taking.  We choose a
different brand, but the Glacier Bay was second on our list--and not chosen,
mostly because of the interior layout.

This capsize was not a case of a boat being too small, it was a case where the
boat was most likely overloaded, load shifted and none of us are able to
comment on how the boat was handled.  I suspect that the result would have
been the same if the beam had been 10 feet.

Paul claims that a 25 foot "Renkin" "took 8 foot waves like a pro".  I believe
he means Renken, which is a limited production 25 foot boat of a long running
boat building company,  which had about 18 degrees dead rise. I am selling a
28 foot boat with 21 degree deadraise to buy a 26 foot trailerable cat.  I
can assure you that the 26 foot Glacier Bay behaves much better in 3-4  foot
seas than the 28 footer I am selling, at 24 knots--and I suspect far better
than a Renken, which has less deadrise.  In fact the Tom Cat we are buying was
running right along with a Regulator which has 26 degree deadrise and running
as smoothly in 3 foot beam seas.

Pat's points are well taken, but I do not believe that there is an inherient
defect in the Glacier Bay or any of the many other trailerable cats. (Although
the Glacier Bay has been known to handle differently in beam seas than some of
the other cats)  It would be nice to have another foot or two of beam, but
many of us are willing to give that up for trailerability and the mobility
which that affords.

Last year Florida had 713 reportable boating accidents (second goes to
California at 603)  34 were capsizing and 48 were swamping (or flooding)
Over 500 of the accidents involved boats less than 26 feet.  The power
catamaran hull is not broken out, however I suspect that none of these
accidents involved a catamaran less than 26 feet.  The trailerable cats have
an excellent safety record.

I certainly agree that cats are not the panacea for all boating's problems.
However the trailerable cat has its place: I just found out that our hull is #
39 and now in the rigging shop.  This means that since the first boat was in
the water in October, there have been 38 more of the Tom Cat 255 built.  This
is remarkable to me that there is that much of a demand for this type of boat
in a soft market.

Regards,

Bob Austin

Sorry to disagree with Paul. It seems that when someone dies there is a lot of attention, and rightfully so. This weekend in the Orange Beach/Pensacola area there were two capsizes of monohull power vessels. In both cases the people aboard were well prepared, had on life jackets and in one case activated an EPIRB. No lives were lost. The cause was "rough seas". One of the mono hulls was in the 34 foot size range and the other was in the 25 foot range. If you look at the achievements of the Glacier Bay 26 foot boats boats they are truely remarkable for the long distance runs: Hawaii to Midway, New York to Bermuda and Seattle to the Berring sea! None of these are hardly the types of trips the average trailerable monhull would consider taking. We choose a different brand, but the Glacier Bay was second on our list--and not chosen, mostly because of the interior layout. This capsize was not a case of a boat being too small, it was a case where the boat was most likely overloaded, load shifted and none of us are able to comment on how the boat was handled. I suspect that the result would have been the same if the beam had been 10 feet. Paul claims that a 25 foot "Renkin" "took 8 foot waves like a pro". I believe he means Renken, which is a limited production 25 foot boat of a long running boat building company, which had about 18 degrees dead rise. I am selling a 28 foot boat with 21 degree deadraise to buy a 26 foot trailerable cat. I can assure you that the 26 foot Glacier Bay behaves much better in 3-4 foot seas than the 28 footer I am selling, at 24 knots--and I suspect far better than a Renken, which has less deadrise. In fact the Tom Cat we are buying was running right along with a Regulator which has 26 degree deadrise and running as smoothly in 3 foot beam seas. Pat's points are well taken, but I do not believe that there is an inherient defect in the Glacier Bay or any of the many other trailerable cats. (Although the Glacier Bay has been known to handle differently in beam seas than some of the other cats) It would be nice to have another foot or two of beam, but many of us are willing to give that up for trailerability and the mobility which that affords. Last year Florida had 713 reportable boating accidents (second goes to California at 603) 34 were capsizing and 48 were swamping (or flooding) Over 500 of the accidents involved boats less than 26 feet. The power catamaran hull is not broken out, however I suspect that none of these accidents involved a catamaran less than 26 feet. The trailerable cats have an excellent safety record. I certainly agree that cats are not the panacea for all boating's problems. However the trailerable cat has its place: I just found out that our hull is # 39 and now in the rigging shop. This means that since the first boat was in the water in October, there have been 38 more of the Tom Cat 255 built. This is remarkable to me that there is that much of a demand for this type of boat in a soft market. Regards, Bob Austin