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forward looking sonar / cell phone / VHF.

CI
CFE Inc.
Wed, Mar 1, 2006 9:16 PM

Looking for information and a bit of an education if any one has the time.

From the no nothing bout nothing guy and another story. Buddy asks if I take a

look at a used vessel with him. Typical gas 1970 vintage etc. that is in the
price range.  But as I go through the boat I run across what seems to be some
kind of sounder. I suggest he should ask the broker / surveyor etc about this
equipment.

Survey time for the 30,000 plus dollar boat and surveyor agrees. Some kinda
sounder but it should be removed. Shows on survey as one of them to do deals.
That's the report I get back along with the other recommendations from the now
new owner.

But I had started doin some research and guess what its not just some old
sounder. It be sonar worth in the $7,000 US range ? About 1/3 the cost of the
boat in Canadian ?

So I have let the buyer / new owner of the boat know and will see what goes
on.

WESMAR`s ss395

http://www.wesmar.com/sportfishing.html

Interesting?

I also watch to much TV these days but there was an add for a cell phone with
GPS ? Give the lat and long of your position for emergencies? Now out here the
cell phone is not reliable but what a great feature for us boaters.

So I know nothing about electronics but if they can get this stuff into a cell
phone. Is there a hand held VHF with this kind of capability. You know
something that overlays your position on say  ch.16 or 70. if you want. I have
not seen this but then it would be nice to have a VHF that could receive this
and display as well as broadcast this info in an emergency. But something at a
realistic price point? Kinda like AIS but less complicated ? I know Icom has
some GPS capability etc but not familiar with this stuff at all.

So I am asking for any information on these subjects if there is some. Like I
said I am not familiar with these electronics so sorry if I am repeating the
last years list requests.

Willy

Looking for information and a bit of an education if any one has the time. >From the no nothing bout nothing guy and another story. Buddy asks if I take a look at a used vessel with him. Typical gas 1970 vintage etc. that is in the price range. But as I go through the boat I run across what seems to be some kind of sounder. I suggest he should ask the broker / surveyor etc about this equipment. Survey time for the 30,000 plus dollar boat and surveyor agrees. Some kinda sounder but it should be removed. Shows on survey as one of them to do deals. That's the report I get back along with the other recommendations from the now new owner. But I had started doin some research and guess what its not just some old sounder. It be sonar worth in the $7,000 US range ? About 1/3 the cost of the boat in Canadian ? So I have let the buyer / new owner of the boat know and will see what goes on. WESMAR`s ss395 http://www.wesmar.com/sportfishing.html Interesting? I also watch to much TV these days but there was an add for a cell phone with GPS ? Give the lat and long of your position for emergencies? Now out here the cell phone is not reliable but what a great feature for us boaters. So I know nothing about electronics but if they can get this stuff into a cell phone. Is there a hand held VHF with this kind of capability. You know something that overlays your position on say ch.16 or 70. if you want. I have not seen this but then it would be nice to have a VHF that could receive this and display as well as broadcast this info in an emergency. But something at a realistic price point? Kinda like AIS but less complicated ? I know Icom has some GPS capability etc but not familiar with this stuff at all. So I am asking for any information on these subjects if there is some. Like I said I am not familiar with these electronics so sorry if I am repeating the last years list requests. Willy
G
ghechtman@aol.com
Wed, Mar 1, 2006 10:14 PM

Uniden has a portable VHF with GPS.

There are cell phones with a GPS chipset built in for the day that true
E911 functionality arises. I will attach Verizon's explanation of this
at the end. In the big cities, Verizon has introduced something closer
to what we on this list would consider GPS, to enable a street
navigation system (that actually works very nicely) they are selling .
HP makes a PDA phone ($$$) for Cingular that also has a usable built in
GPS receiver. Beyond that, the GPS in a phone market really belongs to
Nextel, initially aimed at the commercial dispatch, service and
delivery markets.

There are a variety of Bluetooth wireless GPS receivers that will work
on appropriate phones that have nav software (3rd party) on them, such
as Maptech's Outdoor Navigator. Jeff Sigal of this list is the expert
on that concept.

Here is Verizon's verbiage:

The GPS (Global Positioning System) locator chip, which is present in
all wireless phones we currently sell, except the BlackBerry 6750, is
used solely for tracking purposes by Emergency 911 Services and does
not function like a typical GPS device.
Verizon Wireless cannot guarantee that you will be systematically
located after dialing 911 from your wireless phone. In many places
Public Safety still relies on the caller's descriptions to locate those
in need. Enhancements to the Public Safety 911 system will make it
possible for Public Safety to read your callback number and to estimate
your location. However, given the many variables with wireless radio
service, no design will be perfect. There are three different phases
that the FCC requires for this service. We have listed them below for
your convenience: First: The FCC requires wireless carriers to provide
Enhanced 911 call identification capability when requested by each of
the approximately 6,000 state/local PSAPs nationwide.
Second: The FCC's Phase I Enhanced 911 rules require wireless carriers
to automatically provide PSAP (Public Safety Answering Points) with the
telephone number of the 911 caller and the location of the cell site
used to originate the 911 call.
Third: Phase II Enhanced 911 rules requires wireless carriers to
automatically provide the telephone number of the 911 caller and far
more precise location information, within 50 to 100 meters in most
cases.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: CFE Inc. cfeinc@telus.net
To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 13:16:06 -0800
Subject: T&T: forward looking sonar / cell phone / VHF.

Looking for information and a bit of an education if any one has the
time.

From the no nothing bout nothing guy and another story. Buddy asks if

I take a
look at a used vessel with him. Typical gas 1970 vintage etc. that is
in the
price range. But as I go through the boat I run across what seems to be
some
kind of sounder. I suggest he should ask the broker / surveyor etc
about this
equipment.

Survey time for the 30,000 plus dollar boat and surveyor agrees. Some
kinda
sounder but it should be removed. Shows on survey as one of them to do
deals.
That's the report I get back along with the other recommendations from
the now
new owner.

But I had started doin some research and guess what its not just some
old
sounder. It be sonar worth in the $7,000 US range ? About 1/3 the cost
of the
boat in Canadian ?

So I have let the buyer / new owner of the boat know and will see what
goes
on.

WESMAR`s ss395

http://www.wesmar.com/sportfishing.html

Interesting?

I also watch to much TV these days but there was an add for a cell
phone with
GPS ? Give the lat and long of your position for emergencies? Now out
here the
cell phone is not reliable but what a great feature for us boaters.

So I know nothing about electronics but if they can get this stuff into
a cell
phone. Is there a hand held VHF with this kind of capability. You know
something that overlays your position on say ch.16 or 70. if you want.
I have
not seen this but then it would be nice to have a VHF that could
receive this
and display as well as broadcast this info in an emergency. But
something at a
realistic price point? Kinda like AIS but less complicated ? I know
Icom has
some GPS capability etc but not familiar with this stuff at all.

So I am asking for any information on these subjects if there is some.
Like I
said I am not familiar with these electronics so sorry if I am
repeating the
last years list requests.

Willy


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Uniden has a portable VHF with GPS. There are cell phones with a GPS chipset built in for the day that true E911 functionality arises. I will attach Verizon's explanation of this at the end. In the big cities, Verizon has introduced something closer to what we on this list would consider GPS, to enable a street navigation system (that actually works very nicely) they are selling . HP makes a PDA phone ($$$) for Cingular that also has a usable built in GPS receiver. Beyond that, the GPS in a phone market really belongs to Nextel, initially aimed at the commercial dispatch, service and delivery markets. There are a variety of Bluetooth wireless GPS receivers that will work on appropriate phones that have nav software (3rd party) on them, such as Maptech's Outdoor Navigator. Jeff Sigal of this list is the expert on that concept. Here is Verizon's verbiage: The GPS (Global Positioning System) locator chip, which is present in all wireless phones we currently sell, except the BlackBerry 6750, is used solely for tracking purposes by Emergency 911 Services and does not function like a typical GPS device. Verizon Wireless cannot guarantee that you will be systematically located after dialing 911 from your wireless phone. In many places Public Safety still relies on the caller's descriptions to locate those in need. Enhancements to the Public Safety 911 system will make it possible for Public Safety to read your callback number and to estimate your location. However, given the many variables with wireless radio service, no design will be perfect. There are three different phases that the FCC requires for this service. We have listed them below for your convenience: First: The FCC requires wireless carriers to provide Enhanced 911 call identification capability when requested by each of the approximately 6,000 state/local PSAPs nationwide. Second: The FCC's Phase I Enhanced 911 rules require wireless carriers to automatically provide PSAP (Public Safety Answering Points) with the telephone number of the 911 caller and the location of the cell site used to originate the 911 call. Third: Phase II Enhanced 911 rules requires wireless carriers to automatically provide the telephone number of the 911 caller and far more precise location information, within 50 to 100 meters in most cases. George -----Original Message----- From: CFE Inc. <cfeinc@telus.net> To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com Sent: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 13:16:06 -0800 Subject: T&T: forward looking sonar / cell phone / VHF. Looking for information and a bit of an education if any one has the time. >From the no nothing bout nothing guy and another story. Buddy asks if I take a look at a used vessel with him. Typical gas 1970 vintage etc. that is in the price range. But as I go through the boat I run across what seems to be some kind of sounder. I suggest he should ask the broker / surveyor etc about this equipment. Survey time for the 30,000 plus dollar boat and surveyor agrees. Some kinda sounder but it should be removed. Shows on survey as one of them to do deals. That's the report I get back along with the other recommendations from the now new owner. But I had started doin some research and guess what its not just some old sounder. It be sonar worth in the $7,000 US range ? About 1/3 the cost of the boat in Canadian ? So I have let the buyer / new owner of the boat know and will see what goes on. WESMAR`s ss395 http://www.wesmar.com/sportfishing.html Interesting? I also watch to much TV these days but there was an add for a cell phone with GPS ? Give the lat and long of your position for emergencies? Now out here the cell phone is not reliable but what a great feature for us boaters. So I know nothing about electronics but if they can get this stuff into a cell phone. Is there a hand held VHF with this kind of capability. You know something that overlays your position on say ch.16 or 70. if you want. I have not seen this but then it would be nice to have a VHF that could receive this and display as well as broadcast this info in an emergency. But something at a realistic price point? Kinda like AIS but less complicated ? I know Icom has some GPS capability etc but not familiar with this stuff at all. So I am asking for any information on these subjects if there is some. Like I said I am not familiar with these electronics so sorry if I am repeating the last years list requests. Willy _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe send email to trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
SD
Steven Dubnoff
Wed, Mar 1, 2006 10:48 PM

Is there a hand held VHF with this kind of capability. You know
something that overlays your position on say  ch.16 or 70. if you want. I have
not seen this but then it would be nice to have a VHF that could receive this
and display as well as broadcast this info in an emergency. But something at a
realistic price point?

About $300 bucks will buy Uniden's new handheld vhf with built-in gps
and mapping feature.

     http://www.uniden.com/products/productdetail.cfm?product=mystic

This has DSC for one-button emergency calling.  I think it would be a
very nice item to put in your dingy and/or carry in your coat pocket.

Best,

Steve

Steve Dubnoff
1966 Willard Pilothouse
www.mvnereid.com
sdubnoff@circlesys.com

>Is there a hand held VHF with this kind of capability. You know >something that overlays your position on say ch.16 or 70. if you want. I have >not seen this but then it would be nice to have a VHF that could receive this >and display as well as broadcast this info in an emergency. But something at a >realistic price point? About $300 bucks will buy Uniden's new handheld vhf with built-in gps and mapping feature. http://www.uniden.com/products/productdetail.cfm?product=mystic This has DSC for one-button emergency calling. I think it would be a very nice item to put in your dingy and/or carry in your coat pocket. Best, Steve Steve Dubnoff 1966 Willard Pilothouse www.mvnereid.com sdubnoff@circlesys.com