<Scott wrote: Often you hear "he didn't have the necessary experience" when discussing some event after the fact. Or, you need more experience to deal with these conditions.> I assume those on this list are aware of the STWC programs and training that is available nearly every where. Any who hold an kind of a Merchant ticket need to have this Endorsement on it. It has become a requirement even for non-licensed people employed in the charter business. As an example all of the folks who deal with boats and guests in the bareboat charter business are required to have taken it. It is a very valuable course in that it covers many subjects including firefighting, watch keeping, man overboard, liferaft boarding etc, etc. All very good stuff. It's all done in pools or close to shore but I assure you you'll be gasping for breath and wondering if you can get thru it. Knocking down a fire inside a confined area will get your attention. With the right facility this can be a very real experience. The courses are available to anyone and are held virtually everywhere there are merchant fleets. Go to http://www.stcw.org/links.html and find a school near you and check into it. The cost usually runs from $500 to a $1000 and when you're done you'll be far better equipped both mentally and with experience to cope with a bad day at sea. As always YMMV, Cheers Dave & Nancy Swan Song Roughwater 58 Caribbean Cruise '07