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Re: [PUP] Teak decks

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Randal Johnson
Thu, May 19, 2005 6:12 PM

Milt

I respect your opinion greatly as I have followed the

construction of your Nordhavn on your web site and I know of your
tremendous contribution to the Atlantic Rally last year. I've noted your
thoughts about the teak decks and I still have time to change my mind.
However, I have found that even at my age,(56), when I make a decision
that wasn't based on logic to begin with it's hard to change it with
logic.
Thank you for your comments and congratulations on the
completion of Nordhavn 47-32. I'd love to be there when you and Judy
take delivery in August.

Randal Johnson

Milt I respect your opinion greatly as I have followed the construction of your Nordhavn on your web site and I know of your tremendous contribution to the Atlantic Rally last year. I've noted your thoughts about the teak decks and I still have time to change my mind. However, I have found that even at my age,(56), when I make a decision that wasn't based on logic to begin with it's hard to change it with logic. Thank you for your comments and congratulations on the completion of Nordhavn 47-32. I'd love to be there when you and Judy take delivery in August. Randal Johnson
RR
Ron Rogers
Thu, May 19, 2005 7:51 PM

Randal,

The teak decks serve to reduce the commercial look of the vessel. One would
hope that the teak is fastened without fastening using 5200 or similar. The
quality of the teak is extremely important. Fine-grained natural teak
instead of wide-grain plantation teak.

There are two levels of maintenance. One is just keeping it clean and
allowing it to turn silver. The other is cleaning it or sanding it and
putting on a variety of coatings which attempt to maintain a honey colored
teak appearance.

Based upon my experience and what I've read from others, it is the second
class of maintenance that drives folks around the bend and turns them
against teak.

If you are not doing this for ae4sthetic reasons, there is no reason to do
it. Bill can put down any of a number of paint additives that will give you
good footing.

Two other points. If you keep the boat in a major metro area or where jets
fly overhead, that silver deck is likely to turn black. Second, the teak
will make the boat hotter and when I had a teak decked boat, I had to keep
the decks flooded by stopping-up the scuppers to cool the boat down - it
works.
Ron Rogers

Randal, The teak decks serve to reduce the commercial look of the vessel. One would hope that the teak is fastened without fastening using 5200 or similar. The quality of the teak is extremely important. Fine-grained natural teak instead of wide-grain plantation teak. There are two levels of maintenance. One is just keeping it clean and allowing it to turn silver. The other is cleaning it or sanding it and putting on a variety of coatings which attempt to maintain a honey colored teak appearance. Based upon my experience and what I've read from others, it is the second class of maintenance that drives folks around the bend and turns them against teak. If you are not doing this for ae4sthetic reasons, there is no reason to do it. Bill can put down any of a number of paint additives that will give you good footing. Two other points. If you keep the boat in a major metro area or where jets fly overhead, that silver deck is likely to turn black. Second, the teak will make the boat hotter and when I had a teak decked boat, I had to keep the decks flooded by stopping-up the scuppers to cool the boat down - it works. Ron Rogers
MP
Mike P
Thu, May 19, 2005 9:19 PM

Randal,

How did the 462 feel inside in terms of windows (or lack thereof) and
feeling too enclosed?  A couple postings have remarked how much they
would miss the more open dining area.  Can you address your thoughts
and experience related to the Duck?
Thanks,
Mike Pate

On May 19, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Ron Rogers wrote:

Randal,

The teak decks serve to reduce the commercial look of the vessel.
One would
hope that the teak is fastened without fastening using 5200 or
similar. The
quality of the teak is extremely important. Fine-grained natural teak
instead of wide-grain plantation teak.

There are two levels of maintenance. One is just keeping it clean and
allowing it to turn silver. The other is cleaning it or sanding it and
putting on a variety of coatings which attempt to maintain a honey
colored
teak appearance.

Based upon my experience and what I've read from others, it is the
second
class of maintenance that drives folks around the bend and turns them
against teak.

If you are not doing this for ae4sthetic reasons, there is no
reason to do
it. Bill can put down any of a number of paint additives that will
give you
good footing.

Two other points. If you keep the boat in a major metro area or
where jets
fly overhead, that silver deck is likely to turn black. Second, the
teak
will make the boat hotter and when I had a teak decked boat, I had
to keep
the decks flooded by stopping-up the scuppers to cool the boat down

  • it
    works.
    Ron Rogers

Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List

Randal, How did the 462 feel inside in terms of windows (or lack thereof) and feeling too enclosed? A couple postings have remarked how much they would miss the more open dining area. Can you address your thoughts and experience related to the Duck? Thanks, Mike Pate On May 19, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Ron Rogers wrote: > Randal, > > The teak decks serve to reduce the commercial look of the vessel. > One would > hope that the teak is fastened without fastening using 5200 or > similar. The > quality of the teak is extremely important. Fine-grained natural teak > instead of wide-grain plantation teak. > > There are two levels of maintenance. One is just keeping it clean and > allowing it to turn silver. The other is cleaning it or sanding it and > putting on a variety of coatings which attempt to maintain a honey > colored > teak appearance. > > Based upon my experience and what I've read from others, it is the > second > class of maintenance that drives folks around the bend and turns them > against teak. > > If you are not doing this for ae4sthetic reasons, there is no > reason to do > it. Bill can put down any of a number of paint additives that will > give you > good footing. > > Two other points. If you keep the boat in a major metro area or > where jets > fly overhead, that silver deck is likely to turn black. Second, the > teak > will make the boat hotter and when I had a teak decked boat, I had > to keep > the decks flooded by stopping-up the scuppers to cool the boat down > - it > works. > Ron Rogers > > _______________________________________________ > Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List >
RG
Rod Gibbons
Thu, May 19, 2005 11:40 PM

Because many of our catamaran buyers are cruisers, we get a good deal of
feedback regarding various cruising features. Based on years of that
feedback, most of our buyers do NOT like teak except for in the cockpit,
and possibly on the transom steps/swim platform (where wet feet are most
common, whether bare or wearing shoes, thus benefitting from the great
non-skid properties of teak). Primary reason for NOT liking teak decks?
They're TOO HOT to walk on in tropic locales--they scorch bare feet
(besides heating up the below-decks areas).

But yeah, conscientuously cared for, teak decks DO look great.

Regards,

Rod Gibbons

Ron Rogers wrote:

Randal,

The teak decks serve to reduce the commercial look of the vessel. One would
hope that the teak is fastened without fastening using 5200 or similar. The
quality of the teak is extremely important. Fine-grained natural teak
instead of wide-grain plantation teak.

There are two levels of maintenance. One is just keeping it clean and
allowing it to turn silver. The other is cleaning it or sanding it and
putting on a variety of coatings which attempt to maintain a honey colored
teak appearance.

Based upon my experience and what I've read from others, it is the second
class of maintenance that drives folks around the bend and turns them
against teak.

If you are not doing this for ae4sthetic reasons, there is no reason to do
it. Bill can put down any of a number of paint additives that will give you
good footing.

Two other points. If you keep the boat in a major metro area or where jets
fly overhead, that silver deck is likely to turn black. Second, the teak
will make the boat hotter and when I had a teak decked boat, I had to keep
the decks flooded by stopping-up the scuppers to cool the boat down - it
works.
Ron Rogers


Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List

Because many of our catamaran buyers are cruisers, we get a good deal of feedback regarding various cruising features. Based on years of that feedback, most of our buyers do NOT like teak except for in the cockpit, and possibly on the transom steps/swim platform (where wet feet are most common, whether bare or wearing shoes, thus benefitting from the great non-skid properties of teak). Primary reason for NOT liking teak decks? They're TOO HOT to walk on in tropic locales--they scorch bare feet (besides heating up the below-decks areas). But yeah, conscientuously cared for, teak decks DO look great. Regards, Rod Gibbons Ron Rogers wrote: >Randal, > >The teak decks serve to reduce the commercial look of the vessel. One would >hope that the teak is fastened without fastening using 5200 or similar. The >quality of the teak is extremely important. Fine-grained natural teak >instead of wide-grain plantation teak. > >There are two levels of maintenance. One is just keeping it clean and >allowing it to turn silver. The other is cleaning it or sanding it and >putting on a variety of coatings which attempt to maintain a honey colored >teak appearance. > >Based upon my experience and what I've read from others, it is the second >class of maintenance that drives folks around the bend and turns them >against teak. > >If you are not doing this for ae4sthetic reasons, there is no reason to do >it. Bill can put down any of a number of paint additives that will give you >good footing. > >Two other points. If you keep the boat in a major metro area or where jets >fly overhead, that silver deck is likely to turn black. Second, the teak >will make the boat hotter and when I had a teak decked boat, I had to keep >the decks flooded by stopping-up the scuppers to cool the boat down - it >works. >Ron Rogers > >_______________________________________________ >Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List > > >