DISCLAIMER:  This e-mail from a catamaran dealer.

In response to Roger Bingham's and Georgs' helpful listings (see their recently posted e-mails below) of a few cruising power-cat pricings, here's additonal info regarding two other production models to assist readers' price-comparison of the PDQ-41.

One of these new power cats is 55' and the other 42':

There's a new manufacturer of power cats in Thailand/China. The head of the company is Asian-born, but a graduate of Harvard and MIT, who purportedly made his first "fortune" building airplanes. So he has a first-hand understanding about light-weight/strong construction processes.

The boat is the SLY-55 (a 65' is also available, but not yet built). The first 55 (55' x 22') is already under construction, and scheduled to launch as of about May, 2007.  (I believe it's been sold to a U.S. east-coast buyer.) The boat can be had as a basic, minimally equipped 4-cabin/4-head model for about $699K (US), or a well-fitted out yacht (5-cabins/4-heads, genset, complete Raymarine electronics package, fridge/freezer, washer/dryer, compactor, flat screen TVs, elec. windlass and ground tackle, flybridge-and-salon helm stations,) for about $799K. That includes 2 x 220 HP diesels. Engine upgrades up to 2 x 440 HP available. Also, for an additional $70K you can get Hamilton Jet Drives, instead of the standard prop-drives, giving you a draft only slightly more than 3', and speeds nearing 30 knots. Optional tankage gives a range of up to 2,000 miles.  (Directions on how to find drawings/photos, spec. list, etc. avail. off-line to any inquirees.)

The Destiny 42 (42' x 18'), to be built in the Pacific Northwest, with hull #1 purportedly launching by Nov., 2007, comes very well equipped for $500K. But each subsequent model WILL be priced incrementally higher: about another $10K to $20K higher with each successive model. The manufacturer appears to be heading toward a set price of about $575K, with "early-bird" buyers benefitting from the lower, introductory pricing. (I can't get a precise "fix" on this project yet....but it appears about 90% likely to go into production.)

So yeah...based on the above two cats, and the previous pricing examples noted below (by Roger and Georgs) regarding the Fountaine Pajot Cumberland 44, AfricCat, Lagoon 44, et al.....it would seem that the PDQ-41's price isn't out of line.

If I could have one wish regarding power cats in general, it would be that designers move ON from the seemingly entrenched "boxiness" of so many designs. (Endeavour, Manta, PDQ, etc.) They seem to be stuck in that same design-mode once the hallmark of monohulls like the Tolleycraft and early Bayliners....but such boxiness has now long been abandoned by the monohull market, in exchagne for sleeker lines adn profiles. For power cats to be more successful, I think they, too, need to "evolve" esthetically. This isn't just a personal opinion, but one repeated to me regularly by would-be power-cat buyers. (Are any cat designers monitoring this? If so, I'd be interested in hearing why they think cat designs are NOT yet nearly as sleek or exciting in design as they easily could be. )

Regards,

Rod Gibbons
Cruising Cats USA

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Right on, Rod. The PDQ's major shortcoming is that it is downright  ugly, in
a boxy kinda way. The price and equipment  level appears to be reasonable.
Comparisons will always be apples and oranges, so when you put the boat up
against the current issue of monohulls of similar quality and performance
then the PDQ looks like a deal. The layout and execution are superb for
long-term cruising.

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           Regards, Bert Harrott

From: rodgibbons@mindspring.com
Date: 12/29/2006 4:36:09 AM
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: [PCW] Comparative Prices of Production Power-cats

DISCLAIMER:  This e-mail from a catamaran dealer.

In response to Roger Bingham's and Georgs' helpful listings (see their
recently posted e-mails below) of a few cruising power-cat pricings, here's
additonal info regarding two other production models to assist readers'
price-comparison of the PDQ-41.

One of these new power cats is 55' and the other 42':

There's a new manufacturer of power cats in Thailand/China. The head of the
company is Asian-born, but a graduate of Harvard and MIT, who purportedly
made his first "fortune" building airplanes. So he has a first-hand
understanding about light-weight/strong construction processes.

The boat is the SLY-55 (a 65' is also available, but not yet built). The
first 55 (55' x 22') is already under construction, and scheduled to launch
as of about May, 2007.  (I believe it's been sold to a U.S. east-coast buyer
) The boat can be had as a basic, minimally equipped 4-cabin/4-head model
for about $699K (US), or a well-fitted out yacht (5-cabins/4-heads, genset,
complete Raymarine electronics package, fridge/freezer, washer/dryer,
compactor, flat screen TVs, elec. windlass and ground tackle,
flybridge-and-salon helm stations,) for about $799K. That includes 2 x 220
HP diesels. Engine upgrades up to 2 x 440 HP available. Also, for an
additional $70K you can get Hamilton Jet Drives, instead of the standard
prop-drives, giving you a draft only slightly more than 3', and speeds
nearing 30 knots. Optional tankage gives a range of up to 2,000 miles.
(Directions on how to find drawings/photos, spec. list, etc. avail. off-line
to any inquirees.)

The Destiny 42 (42' x 18'), to be built in the Pacific Northwest, with hull
#1 purportedly launching by Nov., 2007, comes very well equipped for $500K.
But each subsequent model WILL be priced incrementally higher: about another
$10K to $20K higher with each successive model. The manufacturer appears to
be heading toward a set price of about $575K, with "early-bird" buyers
benefitting from the lower, introductory pricing. (I can't get a precise
fix" on this project yet....but it appears about 90% likely to go into
production.)

So yeah...based on the above two cats, and the previous pricing examples
noted below (by Roger and Georgs) regarding the Fountaine Pajot Cumberland
44, AfricCat, Lagoon 44, et al.....it would seem that the PDQ-41's price isn
t out of line.

If I could have one wish regarding power cats in general, it would be that
designers move ON from the seemingly entrenched "boxiness" of so many
designs. (Endeavour, Manta, PDQ, etc.) They seem to be stuck in that same
design-mode once the hallmark of monohulls like the Tolleycraft and early
Bayliners....but such boxiness has now long been abandoned by the monohull
market, in exchagne for sleeker lines adn profiles. For power cats to be
more successful, I think they, too, need to "evolve" esthetically. This isn
t just a personal opinion, but one repeated to me regularly by would-be
power-cat buyers. (Are any cat designers monitoring this? If so, I'd be
interested in hearing why they think cat designs are NOT yet nearly as sleek
or exciting in design as they easily could be. )

Regards,

Rod Gibbons
Cruising Cats USA

-----Original Message-----

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