BC
Bob Carlson
Tue, Feb 7, 2023 7:59 PM
Thanks. I’m confused by your use of “walls”, 5 walls, 3-4 walls, etc. Can you elucidate?
Are these square threads on the clamps? Just curious. I suspect they are harder to print than 60 degree threads.
BTW, I verified that the bolt I need is 1/2-12, an odd size, but apparently used occasionally, esp in the UK and Australia I guess.
-Bob
Tucson AZ
On Feb 7, 2023, at 03:24, Roger Whiteley via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org wrote:
From: Roger Whiteley roger.whiteley@me.com
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Gear Making for a Toy Car
Date: February 7, 2023 at 03:24:49 MST
To: discuss@lists.openscad.org
Reply-To: OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list discuss@lists.openscad.org
@Bob Carlson.
I print screw threads vertically - several components I make for our machines have printed screws:
A clamp - all in PLA - the clamp part took a lot of (re)-designing to prevent bending [and snapping] under load.
I print this screw with the following settings - this screw is 16mm in diameter with a pitch of about 4mm:
0.16mm layer height, 5 walls [2mm], Z seam random, infill 30% gyroid.
The second one is a pinch clamp, again vertically printed in PLA, but its only 10mm in diameter, with a 2mm pitch, 3 walls at the same layer height and infill.
Being so 'thin' it is prone to snapping at the thread root, so for the length of the screw thread I embed an empty 'cylinder', creating a void in the centre, the slicer sees this as a wall, so it gets the same processing applied - a 1.2mm walled hollow section, being cylindrical it has no stress raising corners and problem solved. Its invisible and nobody is any the wiser - I think I saw Angus on Maker's Muse You Tube channel doing something similar, so I'm not claiming originality.
BTW random Z means there is no continuous seam up the thread in one place [but you knew that already :-)].
Printing gears is 'interesting', the change gears on a mini lathe are mostly injection moulded so have no directional alignment in the material, 3d printing straight gears results in much stronger gears owing to the wall alignment - but the weakest link is always supposed to be the woodruff key for a metal gear train in the event of a jam, not the teeth :-).
Bevel gears are trickier, I print them on their back if they are large, or teeth down with a spacing ring to lift them off the print surface - we've had more issues with teeth shearing on bevel gears owing to the orientation - 3 to 4 walls, for a 4 inch bevel with 30 teeth we use 15% gyroid - from our experience gyroid infill works.
Examples from the past: Myford lathes had 20dp machined cast iron gears with woodruff keys, but a 1974 Volvo 144 had a cam drive gear machined from tufnol + woodruff key, quiet, but it did strip eventually.
HTH Roger.
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Thanks. I’m confused by your use of “walls”, 5 walls, 3-4 walls, etc. Can you elucidate?
Are these square threads on the clamps? Just curious. I suspect they are harder to print than 60 degree threads.
BTW, I verified that the bolt I need is 1/2-12, an odd size, but apparently used occasionally, esp in the UK and Australia I guess.
-Bob
Tucson AZ
On Feb 7, 2023, at 03:24, Roger Whiteley via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
From: Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.com>
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Gear Making for a Toy Car
Date: February 7, 2023 at 03:24:49 MST
To: discuss@lists.openscad.org
Reply-To: OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list <discuss@lists.openscad.org>
@Bob Carlson.
I print screw threads vertically - several components I make for our machines have printed screws:
A clamp - all in PLA - the clamp part took a lot of (re)-designing to prevent bending [and snapping] under load.
I print this screw with the following settings - this screw is 16mm in diameter with a pitch of about 4mm:
0.16mm layer height, 5 walls [2mm], Z seam random, infill 30% gyroid.
The second one is a pinch clamp, again vertically printed in PLA, but its only 10mm in diameter, with a 2mm pitch, 3 walls at the same layer height and infill.
Being so 'thin' it is prone to snapping at the thread root, so for the length of the screw thread I embed an empty 'cylinder', creating a void in the centre, the slicer sees this as a wall, so it gets the same processing applied - a 1.2mm walled hollow section, being cylindrical it has no stress raising corners and problem solved. Its invisible and nobody is any the wiser - I think I saw Angus on Maker's Muse You Tube channel doing something similar, so I'm not claiming originality.
BTW random Z means there is no continuous seam up the thread in one place [but you knew that already :-)].
Printing gears is 'interesting', the change gears on a mini lathe are mostly injection moulded so have no directional alignment in the material, 3d printing straight gears results in much stronger gears owing to the wall alignment - but the weakest link is always supposed to be the woodruff key for a metal gear train in the event of a jam, not the teeth :-).
Bevel gears are trickier, I print them on their back if they are large, or teeth down with a spacing ring to lift them off the print surface - we've had more issues with teeth shearing on bevel gears owing to the orientation - 3 to 4 walls, for a 4 inch bevel with 30 teeth we use 15% gyroid - from our experience gyroid infill works.
Examples from the past: Myford lathes had 20dp machined cast iron gears with woodruff keys, but a 1974 Volvo 144 had a cam drive gear machined from tufnol + woodruff key, quiet, but it did strip eventually.
HTH Roger.
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Andy Cole
Tue, Feb 7, 2023 10:40 PM
We're all metric in Oz, mate
Andy
On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, 6:01 am Bob Carlson, bob@rjcarlson.com wrote:
Thanks. I’m confused by your use of “walls”, 5 walls, 3-4 walls, etc. Can
you elucidate?
Are these square threads on the clamps? Just curious. I suspect they are
harder to print than 60 degree threads.
BTW, I verified that the bolt I need is 1/2-12, an odd size, but
apparently used occasionally, esp in the UK and Australia I guess.
-Bob
Tucson AZ
On Feb 7, 2023, at 03:24, Roger Whiteley via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
*From: *Roger Whiteley roger.whiteley@me.com
*Subject: *[OpenSCAD] Re: Gear Making for a Toy Car
*Date: *February 7, 2023 at 03:24:49 MST
*To: *discuss@lists.openscad.org
*Reply-To: *OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list <
discuss@lists.openscad.org>
@Bob Carlson.
I print screw threads vertically - several components I make for our
machines have printed screws:
A clamp - all in PLA - the clamp part took a lot of (re)-designing to
prevent bending [and snapping] under load.
I print this screw with the following settings - this screw is 16mm in
diameter with a pitch of about 4mm:
0.16mm layer height, 5 walls [2mm], Z seam random, infill 30% gyroid.
The second one is a pinch clamp, again vertically printed in PLA, but its
only 10mm in diameter, with a 2mm pitch, 3 walls at the same layer height
and infill.
Being so 'thin' it is prone to snapping at the thread root, so for the
length of the screw thread I embed an empty 'cylinder', creating a void in
the centre, the slicer sees this as a wall, so it gets the same processing
applied - a 1.2mm walled hollow section, being cylindrical it has no stress
raising corners and problem solved. Its invisible and nobody is any the
wiser - I think I saw Angus on Maker's Muse You Tube channel doing
something similar, so I'm not claiming originality.
BTW random Z means there is no continuous seam up the thread in one place
[but you knew that already :-)].
Printing gears is 'interesting', the change gears on a mini lathe are
mostly injection moulded so have no directional alignment in the material,
3d printing straight gears results in much stronger gears owing to the wall
alignment - but the weakest link is always supposed to be the woodruff key
for a metal gear train in the event of a jam, not the teeth :-).
Bevel gears are trickier, I print them on their back if they are large, or
teeth down with a spacing ring to lift them off the print surface - we've
had more issues with teeth shearing on bevel gears owing to the orientation
- 3 to 4 walls, for a 4 inch bevel with 30 teeth we use 15% gyroid - from
our experience gyroid infill works.
Examples from the past: Myford lathes had 20dp machined cast iron gears
with woodruff keys, but a 1974 Volvo 144 had a cam drive gear machined from
tufnol + woodruff key, quiet, but it did strip eventually.
HTH Roger.
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We're all metric in Oz, mate
Andy
On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, 6:01 am Bob Carlson, <bob@rjcarlson.com> wrote:
> Thanks. I’m confused by your use of “walls”, 5 walls, 3-4 walls, etc. Can
> you elucidate?
>
> Are these square threads on the clamps? Just curious. I suspect they are
> harder to print than 60 degree threads.
>
> BTW, I verified that the bolt I need is 1/2-12, an odd size, but
> apparently used occasionally, esp in the UK and Australia I guess.
>
> -Bob
> Tucson AZ
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2023, at 03:24, Roger Whiteley via Discuss <
> discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
>
>
> *From: *Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.com>
> *Subject: **[OpenSCAD] Re: Gear Making for a Toy Car*
> *Date: *February 7, 2023 at 03:24:49 MST
> *To: *discuss@lists.openscad.org
> *Reply-To: *OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list <
> discuss@lists.openscad.org>
>
>
> @Bob Carlson.
>
> I print screw threads vertically - several components I make for our
> machines have printed screws:
>
> A clamp - all in PLA - the clamp part took a lot of (re)-designing to
> prevent bending [and snapping] under load.
>
> I print this screw with the following settings - this screw is 16mm in
> diameter with a pitch of about 4mm:
>
> 0.16mm layer height, 5 walls [2mm], Z seam random, infill 30% gyroid.
>
> The second one is a pinch clamp, again vertically printed in PLA, but its
> only 10mm in diameter, with a 2mm pitch, 3 walls at the same layer height
> and infill.
>
> Being so 'thin' it is prone to snapping at the thread root, so for the
> length of the screw thread I embed an empty 'cylinder', creating a void in
> the centre, the slicer sees this as a wall, so it gets the same processing
> applied - a 1.2mm walled hollow section, being cylindrical it has no stress
> raising corners and problem solved. Its invisible and nobody is any the
> wiser - I think I saw Angus on Maker's Muse You Tube channel doing
> something similar, so I'm not claiming originality.
>
> BTW random Z means there is no continuous seam up the thread in one place
> [but you knew that already :-)].
>
> Printing gears is 'interesting', the change gears on a mini lathe are
> mostly injection moulded so have no directional alignment in the material,
> 3d printing straight gears results in much stronger gears owing to the wall
> alignment - but the weakest link is always supposed to be the woodruff key
> for a metal gear train in the event of a jam, not the teeth :-).
>
> Bevel gears are trickier, I print them on their back if they are large, or
> teeth down with a spacing ring to lift them off the print surface - we've
> had more issues with teeth shearing on bevel gears owing to the orientation
> - 3 to 4 walls, for a 4 inch bevel with 30 teeth we use 15% gyroid - from
> our experience gyroid infill works.
>
> Examples from the past: Myford lathes had 20dp machined cast iron gears
> with woodruff keys, but a 1974 Volvo 144 had a cam drive gear machined from
> tufnol + woodruff key, quiet, but it did strip eventually.
>
> HTH Roger.
>
>
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nop head
Tue, Feb 7, 2023 11:15 PM
And in the UK. It is just the US that use the old units.
On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 22:41, Andy Cole 1943ajlc@gmail.com wrote:
We're all metric in Oz, mate
Andy
On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, 6:01 am Bob Carlson, bob@rjcarlson.com wrote:
Thanks. I’m confused by your use of “walls”, 5 walls, 3-4 walls, etc. Can
you elucidate?
Are these square threads on the clamps? Just curious. I suspect they are
harder to print than 60 degree threads.
BTW, I verified that the bolt I need is 1/2-12, an odd size, but
apparently used occasionally, esp in the UK and Australia I guess.
-Bob
Tucson AZ
On Feb 7, 2023, at 03:24, Roger Whiteley via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
*From: *Roger Whiteley roger.whiteley@me.com
*Subject: *[OpenSCAD] Re: Gear Making for a Toy Car
*Date: *February 7, 2023 at 03:24:49 MST
*To: *discuss@lists.openscad.org
*Reply-To: *OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list <
discuss@lists.openscad.org>
@Bob Carlson.
I print screw threads vertically - several components I make for our
machines have printed screws:
A clamp - all in PLA - the clamp part took a lot of (re)-designing to
prevent bending [and snapping] under load.
I print this screw with the following settings - this screw is 16mm in
diameter with a pitch of about 4mm:
0.16mm layer height, 5 walls [2mm], Z seam random, infill 30% gyroid.
The second one is a pinch clamp, again vertically printed in PLA, but its
only 10mm in diameter, with a 2mm pitch, 3 walls at the same layer height
and infill.
Being so 'thin' it is prone to snapping at the thread root, so for the
length of the screw thread I embed an empty 'cylinder', creating a void in
the centre, the slicer sees this as a wall, so it gets the same processing
applied - a 1.2mm walled hollow section, being cylindrical it has no stress
raising corners and problem solved. Its invisible and nobody is any the
wiser - I think I saw Angus on Maker's Muse You Tube channel doing
something similar, so I'm not claiming originality.
BTW random Z means there is no continuous seam up the thread in one place
[but you knew that already :-)].
Printing gears is 'interesting', the change gears on a mini lathe are
mostly injection moulded so have no directional alignment in the material,
3d printing straight gears results in much stronger gears owing to the wall
alignment - but the weakest link is always supposed to be the woodruff key
for a metal gear train in the event of a jam, not the teeth :-).
Bevel gears are trickier, I print them on their back if they are large,
or teeth down with a spacing ring to lift them off the print surface -
we've had more issues with teeth shearing on bevel gears owing to the
orientation - 3 to 4 walls, for a 4 inch bevel with 30 teeth we use 15%
gyroid - from our experience gyroid infill works.
Examples from the past: Myford lathes had 20dp machined cast iron gears
with woodruff keys, but a 1974 Volvo 144 had a cam drive gear machined from
tufnol + woodruff key, quiet, but it did strip eventually.
HTH Roger.
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And in the UK. It is just the US that use the old units.
On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 22:41, Andy Cole <1943ajlc@gmail.com> wrote:
> We're all metric in Oz, mate
> Andy
>
> On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, 6:01 am Bob Carlson, <bob@rjcarlson.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks. I’m confused by your use of “walls”, 5 walls, 3-4 walls, etc. Can
>> you elucidate?
>>
>> Are these square threads on the clamps? Just curious. I suspect they are
>> harder to print than 60 degree threads.
>>
>> BTW, I verified that the bolt I need is 1/2-12, an odd size, but
>> apparently used occasionally, esp in the UK and Australia I guess.
>>
>> -Bob
>> Tucson AZ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2023, at 03:24, Roger Whiteley via Discuss <
>> discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> *From: *Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.com>
>> *Subject: **[OpenSCAD] Re: Gear Making for a Toy Car*
>> *Date: *February 7, 2023 at 03:24:49 MST
>> *To: *discuss@lists.openscad.org
>> *Reply-To: *OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list <
>> discuss@lists.openscad.org>
>>
>>
>> @Bob Carlson.
>>
>> I print screw threads vertically - several components I make for our
>> machines have printed screws:
>>
>> A clamp - all in PLA - the clamp part took a lot of (re)-designing to
>> prevent bending [and snapping] under load.
>>
>> I print this screw with the following settings - this screw is 16mm in
>> diameter with a pitch of about 4mm:
>>
>> 0.16mm layer height, 5 walls [2mm], Z seam random, infill 30% gyroid.
>>
>> The second one is a pinch clamp, again vertically printed in PLA, but its
>> only 10mm in diameter, with a 2mm pitch, 3 walls at the same layer height
>> and infill.
>>
>> Being so 'thin' it is prone to snapping at the thread root, so for the
>> length of the screw thread I embed an empty 'cylinder', creating a void in
>> the centre, the slicer sees this as a wall, so it gets the same processing
>> applied - a 1.2mm walled hollow section, being cylindrical it has no stress
>> raising corners and problem solved. Its invisible and nobody is any the
>> wiser - I think I saw Angus on Maker's Muse You Tube channel doing
>> something similar, so I'm not claiming originality.
>>
>> BTW random Z means there is no continuous seam up the thread in one place
>> [but you knew that already :-)].
>>
>> Printing gears is 'interesting', the change gears on a mini lathe are
>> mostly injection moulded so have no directional alignment in the material,
>> 3d printing straight gears results in much stronger gears owing to the wall
>> alignment - but the weakest link is always supposed to be the woodruff key
>> for a metal gear train in the event of a jam, not the teeth :-).
>>
>> Bevel gears are trickier, I print them on their back if they are large,
>> or teeth down with a spacing ring to lift them off the print surface -
>> we've had more issues with teeth shearing on bevel gears owing to the
>> orientation - 3 to 4 walls, for a 4 inch bevel with 30 teeth we use 15%
>> gyroid - from our experience gyroid infill works.
>>
>> Examples from the past: Myford lathes had 20dp machined cast iron gears
>> with woodruff keys, but a 1974 Volvo 144 had a cam drive gear machined from
>> tufnol + woodruff key, quiet, but it did strip eventually.
>>
>> HTH Roger.
>>
>>
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>> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
>>
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FF Systems
Tue, Feb 7, 2023 11:19 PM
We (some of us) ARE comfortable with metric...
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 5:16 PM nop head nop.head@gmail.com wrote:
And in the UK. It is just the US that use the old units.
On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 22:41, Andy Cole 1943ajlc@gmail.com wrote:
We're all metric in Oz, mate
Andy
On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, 6:01 am Bob Carlson, bob@rjcarlson.com wrote:
Thanks. I’m confused by your use of “walls”, 5 walls, 3-4 walls, etc.
Can you elucidate?
Are these square threads on the clamps? Just curious. I suspect they are
harder to print than 60 degree threads.
BTW, I verified that the bolt I need is 1/2-12, an odd size, but
apparently used occasionally, esp in the UK and Australia I guess.
-Bob
Tucson AZ
On Feb 7, 2023, at 03:24, Roger Whiteley via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
*From: *Roger Whiteley roger.whiteley@me.com
*Subject: *[OpenSCAD] Re: Gear Making for a Toy Car
*Date: *February 7, 2023 at 03:24:49 MST
*To: *discuss@lists.openscad.org
*Reply-To: *OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list <
discuss@lists.openscad.org>
@Bob Carlson.
I print screw threads vertically - several components I make for our
machines have printed screws:
A clamp - all in PLA - the clamp part took a lot of (re)-designing to
prevent bending [and snapping] under load.
I print this screw with the following settings - this screw is 16mm in
diameter with a pitch of about 4mm:
0.16mm layer height, 5 walls [2mm], Z seam random, infill 30% gyroid.
The second one is a pinch clamp, again vertically printed in PLA, but
its only 10mm in diameter, with a 2mm pitch, 3 walls at the same layer
height and infill.
Being so 'thin' it is prone to snapping at the thread root, so for the
length of the screw thread I embed an empty 'cylinder', creating a void in
the centre, the slicer sees this as a wall, so it gets the same processing
applied - a 1.2mm walled hollow section, being cylindrical it has no stress
raising corners and problem solved. Its invisible and nobody is any the
wiser - I think I saw Angus on Maker's Muse You Tube channel doing
something similar, so I'm not claiming originality.
BTW random Z means there is no continuous seam up the thread in one
place [but you knew that already :-)].
Printing gears is 'interesting', the change gears on a mini lathe are
mostly injection moulded so have no directional alignment in the material,
3d printing straight gears results in much stronger gears owing to the wall
alignment - but the weakest link is always supposed to be the woodruff key
for a metal gear train in the event of a jam, not the teeth :-).
Bevel gears are trickier, I print them on their back if they are large,
or teeth down with a spacing ring to lift them off the print surface -
we've had more issues with teeth shearing on bevel gears owing to the
orientation - 3 to 4 walls, for a 4 inch bevel with 30 teeth we use 15%
gyroid - from our experience gyroid infill works.
Examples from the past: Myford lathes had 20dp machined cast iron gears
with woodruff keys, but a 1974 Volvo 144 had a cam drive gear machined from
tufnol + woodruff key, quiet, but it did strip eventually.
HTH Roger.
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We (some of us) ARE comfortable with metric...
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 5:16 PM nop head <nop.head@gmail.com> wrote:
> And in the UK. It is just the US that use the old units.
>
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 22:41, Andy Cole <1943ajlc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We're all metric in Oz, mate
>> Andy
>>
>> On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, 6:01 am Bob Carlson, <bob@rjcarlson.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks. I’m confused by your use of “walls”, 5 walls, 3-4 walls, etc.
>>> Can you elucidate?
>>>
>>> Are these square threads on the clamps? Just curious. I suspect they are
>>> harder to print than 60 degree threads.
>>>
>>> BTW, I verified that the bolt I need is 1/2-12, an odd size, but
>>> apparently used occasionally, esp in the UK and Australia I guess.
>>>
>>> -Bob
>>> Tucson AZ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 7, 2023, at 03:24, Roger Whiteley via Discuss <
>>> discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.com>
>>> *Subject: **[OpenSCAD] Re: Gear Making for a Toy Car*
>>> *Date: *February 7, 2023 at 03:24:49 MST
>>> *To: *discuss@lists.openscad.org
>>> *Reply-To: *OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list <
>>> discuss@lists.openscad.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> @Bob Carlson.
>>>
>>> I print screw threads vertically - several components I make for our
>>> machines have printed screws:
>>>
>>> A clamp - all in PLA - the clamp part took a lot of (re)-designing to
>>> prevent bending [and snapping] under load.
>>>
>>> I print this screw with the following settings - this screw is 16mm in
>>> diameter with a pitch of about 4mm:
>>>
>>> 0.16mm layer height, 5 walls [2mm], Z seam random, infill 30% gyroid.
>>>
>>> The second one is a pinch clamp, again vertically printed in PLA, but
>>> its only 10mm in diameter, with a 2mm pitch, 3 walls at the same layer
>>> height and infill.
>>>
>>> Being so 'thin' it is prone to snapping at the thread root, so for the
>>> length of the screw thread I embed an empty 'cylinder', creating a void in
>>> the centre, the slicer sees this as a wall, so it gets the same processing
>>> applied - a 1.2mm walled hollow section, being cylindrical it has no stress
>>> raising corners and problem solved. Its invisible and nobody is any the
>>> wiser - I think I saw Angus on Maker's Muse You Tube channel doing
>>> something similar, so I'm not claiming originality.
>>>
>>> BTW random Z means there is no continuous seam up the thread in one
>>> place [but you knew that already :-)].
>>>
>>> Printing gears is 'interesting', the change gears on a mini lathe are
>>> mostly injection moulded so have no directional alignment in the material,
>>> 3d printing straight gears results in much stronger gears owing to the wall
>>> alignment - but the weakest link is always supposed to be the woodruff key
>>> for a metal gear train in the event of a jam, not the teeth :-).
>>>
>>> Bevel gears are trickier, I print them on their back if they are large,
>>> or teeth down with a spacing ring to lift them off the print surface -
>>> we've had more issues with teeth shearing on bevel gears owing to the
>>> orientation - 3 to 4 walls, for a 4 inch bevel with 30 teeth we use 15%
>>> gyroid - from our experience gyroid infill works.
>>>
>>> Examples from the past: Myford lathes had 20dp machined cast iron gears
>>> with woodruff keys, but a 1974 Volvo 144 had a cam drive gear machined from
>>> tufnol + woodruff key, quiet, but it did strip eventually.
>>>
>>> HTH Roger.
>>>
>>>
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Adrian Mariano
Tue, Feb 7, 2023 11:43 PM
You sure about that? Let's see...when I search for 1/2-12 screws I get
this:
https://britishfasteners.com/bsw-1-2-12-x-1-1-2-stainless-hex-screw-7793.html
And what is BSW?
British Standard Whitworth (BSW) is an imperial-unit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial-unit-based screw thread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_thread standard, devised and
specified by Joseph Whitworth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Whitworth in 1841 and later adopted
as a British Standard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard. It
was the world's first national screw thread standard, and is the basis for
many other standards, such as BSF
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Fine, BSP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Pipe, BSCon
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Standard_Conduit&action=edit&redlink=1,
and BSCopper
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Standard_Copper&action=edit&redlink=1.
So why are they selling it if nobody uses it? Interesting to note that
BSW has a 55 deg thread pitch instead of 60 deg thread pitch, so the screws
will not mate with US standard hardware even in cases where the dimensions
and pitch are the same. Looks like British Standard Pipe is also based on
imperial units, and looks like they are still in use and listed in ISO
standard documents.
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 6:16 PM nop head nop.head@gmail.com wrote:
And in the UK. It is just the US that use the old units.
On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 22:41, Andy Cole 1943ajlc@gmail.com wrote:
We're all metric in Oz, mate
Andy
On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, 6:01 am Bob Carlson, bob@rjcarlson.com wrote:
Thanks. I’m confused by your use of “walls”, 5 walls, 3-4 walls, etc.
Can you elucidate?
Are these square threads on the clamps? Just curious. I suspect they are
harder to print than 60 degree threads.
BTW, I verified that the bolt I need is 1/2-12, an odd size, but
apparently used occasionally, esp in the UK and Australia I guess.
-Bob
Tucson AZ
On Feb 7, 2023, at 03:24, Roger Whiteley via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
*From: *Roger Whiteley roger.whiteley@me.com
*Subject: *[OpenSCAD] Re: Gear Making for a Toy Car
*Date: *February 7, 2023 at 03:24:49 MST
*To: *discuss@lists.openscad.org
*Reply-To: *OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list <
discuss@lists.openscad.org>
@Bob Carlson.
I print screw threads vertically - several components I make for our
machines have printed screws:
A clamp - all in PLA - the clamp part took a lot of (re)-designing to
prevent bending [and snapping] under load.
I print this screw with the following settings - this screw is 16mm in
diameter with a pitch of about 4mm:
0.16mm layer height, 5 walls [2mm], Z seam random, infill 30% gyroid.
The second one is a pinch clamp, again vertically printed in PLA, but
its only 10mm in diameter, with a 2mm pitch, 3 walls at the same layer
height and infill.
Being so 'thin' it is prone to snapping at the thread root, so for the
length of the screw thread I embed an empty 'cylinder', creating a void in
the centre, the slicer sees this as a wall, so it gets the same processing
applied - a 1.2mm walled hollow section, being cylindrical it has no stress
raising corners and problem solved. Its invisible and nobody is any the
wiser - I think I saw Angus on Maker's Muse You Tube channel doing
something similar, so I'm not claiming originality.
BTW random Z means there is no continuous seam up the thread in one
place [but you knew that already :-)].
Printing gears is 'interesting', the change gears on a mini lathe are
mostly injection moulded so have no directional alignment in the material,
3d printing straight gears results in much stronger gears owing to the wall
alignment - but the weakest link is always supposed to be the woodruff key
for a metal gear train in the event of a jam, not the teeth :-).
Bevel gears are trickier, I print them on their back if they are large,
or teeth down with a spacing ring to lift them off the print surface -
we've had more issues with teeth shearing on bevel gears owing to the
orientation - 3 to 4 walls, for a 4 inch bevel with 30 teeth we use 15%
gyroid - from our experience gyroid infill works.
Examples from the past: Myford lathes had 20dp machined cast iron gears
with woodruff keys, but a 1974 Volvo 144 had a cam drive gear machined from
tufnol + woodruff key, quiet, but it did strip eventually.
HTH Roger.
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You sure about that? Let's see...when I search for 1/2-12 screws I get
this:
https://britishfasteners.com/bsw-1-2-12-x-1-1-2-stainless-hex-screw-7793.html
And what is BSW?
*British Standard Whitworth* (*BSW*) is an imperial-unit
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial-unit>-based screw thread
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_thread> standard, devised and
specified by Joseph Whitworth
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Whitworth> in 1841 and later adopted
as a British Standard <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard>. It
was the world's first national screw thread standard, and is the basis for
many other standards, such as BSF
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Fine>, BSP
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Pipe>, BSCon
<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Standard_Conduit&action=edit&redlink=1>,
and BSCopper
<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Standard_Copper&action=edit&redlink=1>.
So why are they selling it if nobody uses it? Interesting to note that
BSW has a 55 deg thread pitch instead of 60 deg thread pitch, so the screws
will not mate with US standard hardware even in cases where the dimensions
and pitch are the same. Looks like British Standard Pipe is also based on
imperial units, and looks like they are still in use and listed in ISO
standard documents.
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 6:16 PM nop head <nop.head@gmail.com> wrote:
> And in the UK. It is just the US that use the old units.
>
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 22:41, Andy Cole <1943ajlc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We're all metric in Oz, mate
>> Andy
>>
>> On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, 6:01 am Bob Carlson, <bob@rjcarlson.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks. I’m confused by your use of “walls”, 5 walls, 3-4 walls, etc.
>>> Can you elucidate?
>>>
>>> Are these square threads on the clamps? Just curious. I suspect they are
>>> harder to print than 60 degree threads.
>>>
>>> BTW, I verified that the bolt I need is 1/2-12, an odd size, but
>>> apparently used occasionally, esp in the UK and Australia I guess.
>>>
>>> -Bob
>>> Tucson AZ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 7, 2023, at 03:24, Roger Whiteley via Discuss <
>>> discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.com>
>>> *Subject: **[OpenSCAD] Re: Gear Making for a Toy Car*
>>> *Date: *February 7, 2023 at 03:24:49 MST
>>> *To: *discuss@lists.openscad.org
>>> *Reply-To: *OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list <
>>> discuss@lists.openscad.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> @Bob Carlson.
>>>
>>> I print screw threads vertically - several components I make for our
>>> machines have printed screws:
>>>
>>> A clamp - all in PLA - the clamp part took a lot of (re)-designing to
>>> prevent bending [and snapping] under load.
>>>
>>> I print this screw with the following settings - this screw is 16mm in
>>> diameter with a pitch of about 4mm:
>>>
>>> 0.16mm layer height, 5 walls [2mm], Z seam random, infill 30% gyroid.
>>>
>>> The second one is a pinch clamp, again vertically printed in PLA, but
>>> its only 10mm in diameter, with a 2mm pitch, 3 walls at the same layer
>>> height and infill.
>>>
>>> Being so 'thin' it is prone to snapping at the thread root, so for the
>>> length of the screw thread I embed an empty 'cylinder', creating a void in
>>> the centre, the slicer sees this as a wall, so it gets the same processing
>>> applied - a 1.2mm walled hollow section, being cylindrical it has no stress
>>> raising corners and problem solved. Its invisible and nobody is any the
>>> wiser - I think I saw Angus on Maker's Muse You Tube channel doing
>>> something similar, so I'm not claiming originality.
>>>
>>> BTW random Z means there is no continuous seam up the thread in one
>>> place [but you knew that already :-)].
>>>
>>> Printing gears is 'interesting', the change gears on a mini lathe are
>>> mostly injection moulded so have no directional alignment in the material,
>>> 3d printing straight gears results in much stronger gears owing to the wall
>>> alignment - but the weakest link is always supposed to be the woodruff key
>>> for a metal gear train in the event of a jam, not the teeth :-).
>>>
>>> Bevel gears are trickier, I print them on their back if they are large,
>>> or teeth down with a spacing ring to lift them off the print surface -
>>> we've had more issues with teeth shearing on bevel gears owing to the
>>> orientation - 3 to 4 walls, for a 4 inch bevel with 30 teeth we use 15%
>>> gyroid - from our experience gyroid infill works.
>>>
>>> Examples from the past: Myford lathes had 20dp machined cast iron gears
>>> with woodruff keys, but a 1974 Volvo 144 had a cam drive gear machined from
>>> tufnol + woodruff key, quiet, but it did strip eventually.
>>>
>>> HTH Roger.
>>>
>>>
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nop head
Wed, Feb 8, 2023 9:20 AM
Yes we can buy old imperial fasteners for legacy applications. For example
a friend has a 200 year old house and needed to mend a door knob that used
a Whitworth thread but I don't think anything new is designed with them.
Plumbing pipe sizes and fasteners are still still imperial in the UK
though. Probably due to the compatibility requirements.
On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 23:44, Adrian Mariano avm4@cornell.edu wrote:
You sure about that? Let's see...when I search for 1/2-12 screws I get
this:
https://britishfasteners.com/bsw-1-2-12-x-1-1-2-stainless-hex-screw-7793.html
And what is BSW?
British Standard Whitworth (BSW) is an imperial-unit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial-unit-based screw thread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_thread standard, devised and
specified by Joseph Whitworth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Whitworth in 1841 and later
adopted as a British Standard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard. It was the world's
first national screw thread standard, and is the basis for many other
standards, such as BSF
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Fine, BSP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Pipe, BSCon
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Standard_Conduit&action=edit&redlink=1,
and BSCopper
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Standard_Copper&action=edit&redlink=1.
So why are they selling it if nobody uses it? Interesting to note that
BSW has a 55 deg thread pitch instead of 60 deg thread pitch, so the screws
will not mate with US standard hardware even in cases where the dimensions
and pitch are the same. Looks like British Standard Pipe is also based on
imperial units, and looks like they are still in use and listed in ISO
standard documents.
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 6:16 PM nop head nop.head@gmail.com wrote:
And in the UK. It is just the US that use the old units.
On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 22:41, Andy Cole 1943ajlc@gmail.com wrote:
We're all metric in Oz, mate
Andy
On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, 6:01 am Bob Carlson, bob@rjcarlson.com wrote:
Thanks. I’m confused by your use of “walls”, 5 walls, 3-4 walls, etc.
Can you elucidate?
Are these square threads on the clamps? Just curious. I suspect they
are harder to print than 60 degree threads.
BTW, I verified that the bolt I need is 1/2-12, an odd size, but
apparently used occasionally, esp in the UK and Australia I guess.
-Bob
Tucson AZ
On Feb 7, 2023, at 03:24, Roger Whiteley via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
*From: *Roger Whiteley roger.whiteley@me.com
*Subject: *[OpenSCAD] Re: Gear Making for a Toy Car
*Date: *February 7, 2023 at 03:24:49 MST
*To: *discuss@lists.openscad.org
*Reply-To: *OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list <
discuss@lists.openscad.org>
@Bob Carlson.
I print screw threads vertically - several components I make for our
machines have printed screws:
A clamp - all in PLA - the clamp part took a lot of (re)-designing to
prevent bending [and snapping] under load.
I print this screw with the following settings - this screw is 16mm in
diameter with a pitch of about 4mm:
0.16mm layer height, 5 walls [2mm], Z seam random, infill 30% gyroid.
The second one is a pinch clamp, again vertically printed in PLA, but
its only 10mm in diameter, with a 2mm pitch, 3 walls at the same layer
height and infill.
Being so 'thin' it is prone to snapping at the thread root, so for the
length of the screw thread I embed an empty 'cylinder', creating a void in
the centre, the slicer sees this as a wall, so it gets the same processing
applied - a 1.2mm walled hollow section, being cylindrical it has no stress
raising corners and problem solved. Its invisible and nobody is any the
wiser - I think I saw Angus on Maker's Muse You Tube channel doing
something similar, so I'm not claiming originality.
BTW random Z means there is no continuous seam up the thread in one
place [but you knew that already :-)].
Printing gears is 'interesting', the change gears on a mini lathe are
mostly injection moulded so have no directional alignment in the material,
3d printing straight gears results in much stronger gears owing to the wall
alignment - but the weakest link is always supposed to be the woodruff key
for a metal gear train in the event of a jam, not the teeth :-).
Bevel gears are trickier, I print them on their back if they are large,
or teeth down with a spacing ring to lift them off the print surface -
we've had more issues with teeth shearing on bevel gears owing to the
orientation - 3 to 4 walls, for a 4 inch bevel with 30 teeth we use 15%
gyroid - from our experience gyroid infill works.
Examples from the past: Myford lathes had 20dp machined cast iron gears
with woodruff keys, but a 1974 Volvo 144 had a cam drive gear machined from
tufnol + woodruff key, quiet, but it did strip eventually.
HTH Roger.
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Yes we can buy old imperial fasteners for legacy applications. For example
a friend has a 200 year old house and needed to mend a door knob that used
a Whitworth thread but I don't think anything new is designed with them.
Plumbing pipe sizes and fasteners are still still imperial in the UK
though. Probably due to the compatibility requirements.
On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 23:44, Adrian Mariano <avm4@cornell.edu> wrote:
> You sure about that? Let's see...when I search for 1/2-12 screws I get
> this:
>
>
> https://britishfasteners.com/bsw-1-2-12-x-1-1-2-stainless-hex-screw-7793.html
>
> And what is BSW?
>
> *British Standard Whitworth* (*BSW*) is an imperial-unit
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial-unit>-based screw thread
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_thread> standard, devised and
> specified by Joseph Whitworth
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Whitworth> in 1841 and later
> adopted as a British Standard
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard>. It was the world's
> first national screw thread standard, and is the basis for many other
> standards, such as BSF
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Fine>, BSP
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Pipe>, BSCon
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Standard_Conduit&action=edit&redlink=1>,
> and BSCopper
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Standard_Copper&action=edit&redlink=1>.
>
>
> So why are they selling it if nobody uses it? Interesting to note that
> BSW has a 55 deg thread pitch instead of 60 deg thread pitch, so the screws
> will not mate with US standard hardware even in cases where the dimensions
> and pitch are the same. Looks like British Standard Pipe is also based on
> imperial units, and looks like they are still in use and listed in ISO
> standard documents.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 6:16 PM nop head <nop.head@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And in the UK. It is just the US that use the old units.
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 22:41, Andy Cole <1943ajlc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We're all metric in Oz, mate
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, 6:01 am Bob Carlson, <bob@rjcarlson.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks. I’m confused by your use of “walls”, 5 walls, 3-4 walls, etc.
>>>> Can you elucidate?
>>>>
>>>> Are these square threads on the clamps? Just curious. I suspect they
>>>> are harder to print than 60 degree threads.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I verified that the bolt I need is 1/2-12, an odd size, but
>>>> apparently used occasionally, esp in the UK and Australia I guess.
>>>>
>>>> -Bob
>>>> Tucson AZ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 7, 2023, at 03:24, Roger Whiteley via Discuss <
>>>> discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.com>
>>>> *Subject: **[OpenSCAD] Re: Gear Making for a Toy Car*
>>>> *Date: *February 7, 2023 at 03:24:49 MST
>>>> *To: *discuss@lists.openscad.org
>>>> *Reply-To: *OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list <
>>>> discuss@lists.openscad.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> @Bob Carlson.
>>>>
>>>> I print screw threads vertically - several components I make for our
>>>> machines have printed screws:
>>>>
>>>> A clamp - all in PLA - the clamp part took a lot of (re)-designing to
>>>> prevent bending [and snapping] under load.
>>>>
>>>> I print this screw with the following settings - this screw is 16mm in
>>>> diameter with a pitch of about 4mm:
>>>>
>>>> 0.16mm layer height, 5 walls [2mm], Z seam random, infill 30% gyroid.
>>>>
>>>> The second one is a pinch clamp, again vertically printed in PLA, but
>>>> its only 10mm in diameter, with a 2mm pitch, 3 walls at the same layer
>>>> height and infill.
>>>>
>>>> Being so 'thin' it is prone to snapping at the thread root, so for the
>>>> length of the screw thread I embed an empty 'cylinder', creating a void in
>>>> the centre, the slicer sees this as a wall, so it gets the same processing
>>>> applied - a 1.2mm walled hollow section, being cylindrical it has no stress
>>>> raising corners and problem solved. Its invisible and nobody is any the
>>>> wiser - I think I saw Angus on Maker's Muse You Tube channel doing
>>>> something similar, so I'm not claiming originality.
>>>>
>>>> BTW random Z means there is no continuous seam up the thread in one
>>>> place [but you knew that already :-)].
>>>>
>>>> Printing gears is 'interesting', the change gears on a mini lathe are
>>>> mostly injection moulded so have no directional alignment in the material,
>>>> 3d printing straight gears results in much stronger gears owing to the wall
>>>> alignment - but the weakest link is always supposed to be the woodruff key
>>>> for a metal gear train in the event of a jam, not the teeth :-).
>>>>
>>>> Bevel gears are trickier, I print them on their back if they are large,
>>>> or teeth down with a spacing ring to lift them off the print surface -
>>>> we've had more issues with teeth shearing on bevel gears owing to the
>>>> orientation - 3 to 4 walls, for a 4 inch bevel with 30 teeth we use 15%
>>>> gyroid - from our experience gyroid infill works.
>>>>
>>>> Examples from the past: Myford lathes had 20dp machined cast iron gears
>>>> with woodruff keys, but a 1974 Volvo 144 had a cam drive gear machined from
>>>> tufnol + woodruff key, quiet, but it did strip eventually.
>>>>
>>>> HTH Roger.
>>>>
>>>>
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Rogier Wolff
Wed, Feb 8, 2023 9:24 AM
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 06:43:27PM -0500, Adrian Mariano wrote:
You sure about that? Let's see...when I search for 1/2-12 screws I get
this:
So why are they selling it if nobody uses it?
Maybe because out here we occasionally need to repair stuff made in
the USA? I'm guessing that there are specialized machine-screw shops
in the USA that also carry M3, M4 ...
Or when you get something that uses a metric screw that needs
replacing, you just toss the whole thing?
Still, in GB I'd think you're more likely to find people using
non-metric screws than say in Germany.
Roger.
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** Delftechpark 11 2628 XJ Delft, The Netherlands. KVK: 27239233 **
f equals m times a. When your f is steady, and your m is going down
your a is going up. -- Chris Hadfield about flying up the space shuttle.
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 06:43:27PM -0500, Adrian Mariano wrote:
> You sure about that? Let's see...when I search for 1/2-12 screws I get
> this:
> https://britishfasteners.com/bsw-1-2-12-x-1-1-2-stainless-hex-screw-7793.html
> So why are they selling it if nobody uses it?
Maybe because out here we occasionally need to repair stuff made in
the USA? I'm guessing that there are specialized machine-screw shops
in the USA that also carry M3, M4 ...
Or when you get something that uses a metric screw that needs
replacing, you just toss the whole thing?
Still, in GB I'd think you're more likely to find people using
non-metric screws than say in Germany.
Roger.
--
** R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl ** https://www.BitWizard.nl/ ** +31-15-2049110 **
** Delftechpark 11 2628 XJ Delft, The Netherlands. KVK: 27239233 **
f equals m times a. When your f is steady, and your m is going down
your a is going up. -- Chris Hadfield about flying up the space shuttle.
RW
Rogier Wolff
Wed, Feb 8, 2023 9:26 AM
On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 09:20:05AM +0000, nop head wrote:
Plumbing pipe sizes and fasteners are still still imperial in the UK
though. Probably due to the compatibility requirements.
Electrical tubes here in NL are called "19mm" to pretend they are metric,
but in reality of course that 3/4 inch.
Roger.
--
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** Delftechpark 11 2628 XJ Delft, The Netherlands. KVK: 27239233 **
f equals m times a. When your f is steady, and your m is going down
your a is going up. -- Chris Hadfield about flying up the space shuttle.
On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 09:20:05AM +0000, nop head wrote:
> Plumbing pipe sizes and fasteners are still still imperial in the UK
> though. Probably due to the compatibility requirements.
Electrical tubes here in NL are called "19mm" to pretend they are metric,
but in reality of course that 3/4 inch.
Roger.
--
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** Delftechpark 11 2628 XJ Delft, The Netherlands. KVK: 27239233 **
f equals m times a. When your f is steady, and your m is going down
your a is going up. -- Chris Hadfield about flying up the space shuttle.
TH
Tim Hawkins
Wed, Feb 8, 2023 10:19 AM
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 06:43:27PM -0500, Adrian Mariano wrote:
You sure about that? Let's see...when I search for 1/2-12 screws I get
this:
So why are they selling it if nobody uses it?
Maybe because out here we occasionally need to repair stuff made in
the USA? I'm guessing that there are specialized machine-screw shops
in the USA that also carry M3, M4 ...
Or when you get something that uses a metric screw that needs
replacing, you just toss the whole thing?
Still, in GB I'd think you're more likely to find people using
non-metric screws than say in Germany.
Roger.
--
** R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl ** https://www.BitWizard.nl/ ** +31-15-2049110
**
** Delftechpark 11 2628 XJ Delft, The Netherlands. KVK: 27239233 **
f equals m times a. When your f is steady, and your m is going down
your a is going up. -- Chris Hadfield about flying up the space shuttle.
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Or crusty old plumbers.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2023, 17:25 Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@bitwizard.nl> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 06:43:27PM -0500, Adrian Mariano wrote:
> > You sure about that? Let's see...when I search for 1/2-12 screws I get
> > this:
>
> >
> https://britishfasteners.com/bsw-1-2-12-x-1-1-2-stainless-hex-screw-7793.html
>
> > So why are they selling it if nobody uses it?
>
> Maybe because out here we occasionally need to repair stuff made in
> the USA? I'm guessing that there are specialized machine-screw shops
> in the USA that also carry M3, M4 ...
>
> Or when you get something that uses a metric screw that needs
> replacing, you just toss the whole thing?
>
> Still, in GB I'd think you're more likely to find people using
> non-metric screws than say in Germany.
>
> Roger.
>
> --
> ** R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl ** https://www.BitWizard.nl/ ** +31-15-2049110
> **
> ** Delftechpark 11 2628 XJ Delft, The Netherlands. KVK: 27239233 **
> f equals m times a. When your f is steady, and your m is going down
> your a is going up. -- Chris Hadfield about flying up the space shuttle.
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Raymond West
Wed, Feb 8, 2023 10:58 AM
Whitworth bolts are used in applications where a tight fit and precision
are required. They are typically used in applications such as machinery
and mechanical engineering, as well as in historic restoration projects.
The rounded profile of Whitworth bolts provides a more precise fit
compared to other thread profiles, and they are also more resistant to
vibration loosening.
On 08/02/2023 10:19, Tim Hawkins wrote:
Or crusty old plumbers.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2023, 17:25 Rogier Wolff R.E.Wolff@bitwizard.nl wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 06:43:27PM -0500, Adrian Mariano wrote:
You sure about that? Let's see...when I search for 1/2-12
https://britishfasteners.com/bsw-1-2-12-x-1-1-2-stainless-hex-screw-7793.html
So why are they selling it if nobody uses it?
Maybe because out here we occasionally need to repair stuff made in
the USA? I'm guessing that there are specialized machine-screw shops
in the USA that also carry M3, M4 ...
Or when you get something that uses a metric screw that needs
replacing, you just toss the whole thing?
Still, in GB I'd think you're more likely to find people using
non-metric screws than say in Germany.
Roger.
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Whitworth bolts are used in applications where a tight fit and precision
are required. They are typically used in applications such as machinery
and mechanical engineering, as well as in historic restoration projects.
The rounded profile of Whitworth bolts provides a more precise fit
compared to other thread profiles, and they are also more resistant to
vibration loosening.
On 08/02/2023 10:19, Tim Hawkins wrote:
> Or crusty old plumbers.
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2023, 17:25 Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@bitwizard.nl> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 06:43:27PM -0500, Adrian Mariano wrote:
> > You sure about that? Let's see...when I search for 1/2-12
> screws I get
> > this:
>
> >
> https://britishfasteners.com/bsw-1-2-12-x-1-1-2-stainless-hex-screw-7793.html
>
> > So why are they selling it if nobody uses it?
>
> Maybe because out here we occasionally need to repair stuff made in
> the USA? I'm guessing that there are specialized machine-screw shops
> in the USA that also carry M3, M4 ...
>
> Or when you get something that uses a metric screw that needs
> replacing, you just toss the whole thing?
>
> Still, in GB I'd think you're more likely to find people using
> non-metric screws than say in Germany.
>
> Roger.
>
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> <https://www.BitWizard.nl/> ** +31-15-2049110 **
> ** Delftechpark 11 2628 XJ Delft, The Netherlands. KVK:
> 27239233 **
> f equals m times a. When your f is steady, and your m is going down
> your a is going up. -- Chris Hadfield about flying up the space
> shuttle.
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