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Rich Gano

Sat, Sep 29, 2012 4:27 PM

Crossing the Big Bend of Florida is usually accomplished by trawlerites from
the Dog Island/Carrabelle area. I have done it a couple of times from
Apalachicola, but the Government cut there is 1) over six nautical miles
from the closest inlet (Government Cut); 2) Government Cut can be a bit
iffy; 3) Carrabelle has much better marina facilities (even though it is
roughly the same distance from Dog Island Pass). Plus, there is a "crossing
guru" at the Moorings marina there who regularly consults with loopers.

If you want to accomplish the open water part of the crossing in one run
going from either the Apalachicola area or the Carrabelle/Dog Island area
and arrive in the sometimes crab pot-cluttered shallows around Anclote Key
in daylight the next morning, you need to leave in mid-afternoon if you are
traveling at typical trawler speeds.

Cedar Key: For those at trawler speed who do not wish to run through
darkness, Cedar Key is an intermediate stop allowing you to break the trip
up into two daylight runs. Once you decide on Cedar Key as a sleep-over
anchorage (there is no interest ashore in helping you or accommodating your
boat) , you next have to decide if you want to anchor in the lee of Sea
Horse Key at the southern end during darkness or go the whole 17 miles into
the "harbor" area closer to town, which has a little better protection from
weather. In any event, I highly discourage use of the much shorter (7
miles) Northwest Channel unless you transit at high tide, have protected
prop(s), and well less than four feet of draft (look at Active Captain for
all the warnings). If weather allows, the best bet is to anchor overnight
off Sea Horse Key.

For wave height perditions for my crossings, I like to check out
stromsurf.com where I find my way down to the Gulf of Mexico animated
predictions.

Rich Gano
Calypso (GB42 Hull # 295)
Panama City area, FL

Crossing the Big Bend of Florida is usually accomplished by trawlerites from the Dog Island/Carrabelle area. I have done it a couple of times from Apalachicola, but the Government cut there is 1) over six nautical miles from the closest inlet (Government Cut); 2) Government Cut can be a bit iffy; 3) Carrabelle has much better marina facilities (even though it is roughly the same distance from Dog Island Pass). Plus, there is a "crossing guru" at the Moorings marina there who regularly consults with loopers. If you want to accomplish the open water part of the crossing in one run going from either the Apalachicola area or the Carrabelle/Dog Island area and arrive in the sometimes crab pot-cluttered shallows around Anclote Key in daylight the next morning, you need to leave in mid-afternoon if you are traveling at typical trawler speeds. Cedar Key: For those at trawler speed who do not wish to run through darkness, Cedar Key is an intermediate stop allowing you to break the trip up into two daylight runs. Once you decide on Cedar Key as a sleep-over anchorage (there is no interest ashore in helping you or accommodating your boat) , you next have to decide if you want to anchor in the lee of Sea Horse Key at the southern end during darkness or go the whole 17 miles into the "harbor" area closer to town, which has a little better protection from weather. In any event, I highly discourage use of the much shorter (7 miles) Northwest Channel unless you transit at high tide, have protected prop(s), and well less than four feet of draft (look at Active Captain for all the warnings). If weather allows, the best bet is to anchor overnight off Sea Horse Key. For wave height perditions for my crossings, I like to check out stromsurf.com where I find my way down to the Gulf of Mexico animated predictions. Rich Gano Calypso (GB42 Hull # 295) Panama City area, FL

RY

Ralph Yost

Sat, Sep 29, 2012 4:36 PM

Rich
Thanks very much for this detail. We are on the Tenn River now and I have
been studying this crossing, trying to learn more about the options.
I dread the thought of doing an overnight without sleep. My body breaks down
pretty good in the evening. Sleep is valuable !
I sure would like to have an overnight sleep break to make it. But I know
there are a lot of "Ifs" with that option.
Thanks
R,

Our Great Loop blog is
http://www.SayGood-Bye.com

Youtube channel for the videos
www.youtube.com/user/ralphyost1

Say Good-Bye
41 Defever

-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Rich Gano
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:27 AM
To: Great Loop List
Subject: Re: GL: South of Mobile Bay

Crossing the Big Bend of Florida is usually accomplished by trawlerites from
the Dog Island/Carrabelle area. I have done it a couple of times from
Apalachicola, but the Government cut there is 1) over six nautical miles
from the closest inlet (Government Cut); 2) Government Cut can be a bit
iffy; 3) Carrabelle has much better marina facilities (even though it is
roughly the same distance from Dog Island Pass). Plus, there is a "crossing
guru" at the Moorings marina there who regularly consults with loopers.

If you want to accomplish the open water part of the crossing in one run
going from either the Apalachicola area or the Carrabelle/Dog Island area
and arrive in the sometimes crab pot-cluttered shallows around Anclote Key
in daylight the next morning, you need to leave in mid-afternoon if you are
traveling at typical trawler speeds.

Cedar Key: For those at trawler speed who do not wish to run through
darkness, Cedar Key is an intermediate stop allowing you to break the trip
up into two daylight runs. Once you decide on Cedar Key as a sleep-over
anchorage (there is no interest ashore in helping you or accommodating your
boat) , you next have to decide if you want to anchor in the lee of Sea
Horse Key at the southern end during darkness or go the whole 17 miles into
the "harbor" area closer to town, which has a little better protection from
weather. In any event, I highly discourage use of the much shorter (7
miles) Northwest Channel unless you transit at high tide, have protected
prop(s), and well less than four feet of draft (look at Active Captain for
all the warnings). If weather allows, the best bet is to anchor overnight
off Sea Horse Key.

For wave height perditions for my crossings, I like to check out
stromsurf.com where I find my way down to the Gulf of Mexico animated
predictions.

Rich Gano
Calypso (GB42 Hull # 295)
Panama City area, FL

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Rich Thanks very much for this detail. We are on the Tenn River now and I have been studying this crossing, trying to learn more about the options. I dread the thought of doing an overnight without sleep. My body breaks down pretty good in the evening. Sleep is valuable ! I sure would like to have an overnight sleep break to make it. But I know there are a lot of "Ifs" with that option. Thanks R, Our Great Loop blog is http://www.SayGood-Bye.com Youtube channel for the videos www.youtube.com/user/ralphyost1 Say Good-Bye 41 Defever -----Original Message----- From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com [mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Rich Gano Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:27 AM To: Great Loop List Subject: Re: GL: South of Mobile Bay Crossing the Big Bend of Florida is usually accomplished by trawlerites from the Dog Island/Carrabelle area. I have done it a couple of times from Apalachicola, but the Government cut there is 1) over six nautical miles from the closest inlet (Government Cut); 2) Government Cut can be a bit iffy; 3) Carrabelle has much better marina facilities (even though it is roughly the same distance from Dog Island Pass). Plus, there is a "crossing guru" at the Moorings marina there who regularly consults with loopers. If you want to accomplish the open water part of the crossing in one run going from either the Apalachicola area or the Carrabelle/Dog Island area and arrive in the sometimes crab pot-cluttered shallows around Anclote Key in daylight the next morning, you need to leave in mid-afternoon if you are traveling at typical trawler speeds. Cedar Key: For those at trawler speed who do not wish to run through darkness, Cedar Key is an intermediate stop allowing you to break the trip up into two daylight runs. Once you decide on Cedar Key as a sleep-over anchorage (there is no interest ashore in helping you or accommodating your boat) , you next have to decide if you want to anchor in the lee of Sea Horse Key at the southern end during darkness or go the whole 17 miles into the "harbor" area closer to town, which has a little better protection from weather. In any event, I highly discourage use of the much shorter (7 miles) Northwest Channel unless you transit at high tide, have protected prop(s), and well less than four feet of draft (look at Active Captain for all the warnings). If weather allows, the best bet is to anchor overnight off Sea Horse Key. For wave height perditions for my crossings, I like to check out stromsurf.com where I find my way down to the Gulf of Mexico animated predictions. Rich Gano Calypso (GB42 Hull # 295) Panama City area, FL _______________________________________________ http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

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Bill Donovan

Sat, Sep 29, 2012 9:19 PM

Ralph and List:

If you cross from Carrabelle (or Apalachicola) on a overnight, you
don't have to go sleepless if there are two or more
watchstanders. When we cross, my wife and I take three hour shifts
with the one on watch doing things to stay alert and the one off
watch sleeping with two alarms set. That way, you can each get about
4-6 hours of sleep or more. That is usually enough for me to make it
through the entire arrival day.

Not really bad.

Bill

At 12:36 PM 9/29/2012, Ralph Yost wrote:

Rich
Thanks very much for this detail. We are on the Tenn River now and I have
been studying this crossing, trying to learn more about the options.
I dread the thought of doing an overnight without sleep. My body breaks down
pretty good in the evening. Sleep is valuable !
I sure would like to have an overnight sleep break to make it. But I know
there are a lot of "Ifs" with that option.
Thanks
R,

Our Great Loop blog is
http://www.SayGood-Bye.com

Youtube channel for the videos
www.youtube.com/user/ralphyost1

Say Good-Bye
41 Defever

-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Rich Gano
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:27 AM
To: Great Loop List
Subject: Re: GL: South of Mobile Bay

Crossing the Big Bend of Florida is usually accomplished by trawlerites from
the Dog Island/Carrabelle area. I have done it a couple of times from
Apalachicola, but the Government cut there is 1) over six nautical miles
from the closest inlet (Government Cut); 2) Government Cut can be a bit
iffy; 3) Carrabelle has much better marina facilities (even though it is
roughly the same distance from Dog Island Pass). Plus, there is a "crossing
guru" at the Moorings marina there who regularly consults with loopers.

If you want to accomplish the open water part of the crossing in one run
going from either the Apalachicola area or the Carrabelle/Dog Island area
and arrive in the sometimes crab pot-cluttered shallows around Anclote Key
in daylight the next morning, you need to leave in mid-afternoon if you are
traveling at typical trawler speeds.

Cedar Key: For those at trawler speed who do not wish to run through
darkness, Cedar Key is an intermediate stop allowing you to break the trip
up into two daylight runs. Once you decide on Cedar Key as a sleep-over
anchorage (there is no interest ashore in helping you or accommodating your
boat) , you next have to decide if you want to anchor in the lee of Sea
Horse Key at the southern end during darkness or go the whole 17 miles into
the "harbor" area closer to town, which has a little better protection from
weather. In any event, I highly discourage use of the much shorter (7
miles) Northwest Channel unless you transit at high tide, have protected
prop(s), and well less than four feet of draft (look at Active Captain for
all the warnings). If weather allows, the best bet is to anchor overnight
off Sea Horse Key.

For wave height perditions for my crossings, I like to check out
stromsurf.com where I find my way down to the Gulf of Mexico animated
predictions.

Rich Gano
Calypso (GB42 Hull # 295)
Panama City area, FL

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Ralph and List: If you cross from Carrabelle (or Apalachicola) on a overnight, you don't have to go sleepless if there are two or more watchstanders. When we cross, my wife and I take three hour shifts with the one on watch doing things to stay alert and the one off watch sleeping with two alarms set. That way, you can each get about 4-6 hours of sleep or more. That is usually enough for me to make it through the entire arrival day. Not really bad. Bill At 12:36 PM 9/29/2012, Ralph Yost wrote: >Rich >Thanks very much for this detail. We are on the Tenn River now and I have >been studying this crossing, trying to learn more about the options. >I dread the thought of doing an overnight without sleep. My body breaks down >pretty good in the evening. Sleep is valuable ! >I sure would like to have an overnight sleep break to make it. But I know >there are a lot of "Ifs" with that option. >Thanks >R, > >Our Great Loop blog is >http://www.SayGood-Bye.com > >Youtube channel for the videos >www.youtube.com/user/ralphyost1 > >Say Good-Bye >41 Defever > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com >[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Rich Gano >Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:27 AM >To: Great Loop List >Subject: Re: GL: South of Mobile Bay > >Crossing the Big Bend of Florida is usually accomplished by trawlerites from >the Dog Island/Carrabelle area. I have done it a couple of times from >Apalachicola, but the Government cut there is 1) over six nautical miles >from the closest inlet (Government Cut); 2) Government Cut can be a bit >iffy; 3) Carrabelle has much better marina facilities (even though it is >roughly the same distance from Dog Island Pass). Plus, there is a "crossing >guru" at the Moorings marina there who regularly consults with loopers. > >If you want to accomplish the open water part of the crossing in one run >going from either the Apalachicola area or the Carrabelle/Dog Island area >and arrive in the sometimes crab pot-cluttered shallows around Anclote Key >in daylight the next morning, you need to leave in mid-afternoon if you are >traveling at typical trawler speeds. > >Cedar Key: For those at trawler speed who do not wish to run through >darkness, Cedar Key is an intermediate stop allowing you to break the trip >up into two daylight runs. Once you decide on Cedar Key as a sleep-over >anchorage (there is no interest ashore in helping you or accommodating your >boat) , you next have to decide if you want to anchor in the lee of Sea >Horse Key at the southern end during darkness or go the whole 17 miles into >the "harbor" area closer to town, which has a little better protection from >weather. In any event, I highly discourage use of the much shorter (7 >miles) Northwest Channel unless you transit at high tide, have protected >prop(s), and well less than four feet of draft (look at Active Captain for >all the warnings). If weather allows, the best bet is to anchor overnight >off Sea Horse Key. > >For wave height perditions for my crossings, I like to check out >stromsurf.com where I find my way down to the Gulf of Mexico animated >predictions. > >Rich Gano >Calypso (GB42 Hull # 295) >Panama City area, FL > > >_______________________________________________ >http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > >To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >unsubscribe, etc.) go to: >http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > >_______________________________________________ >http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > >To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >unsubscribe, etc.) go to: >http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5298 - Release Date: 09/29/12

MA

MY ALLEZ

Sat, Sep 29, 2012 9:42 PM

Bill Standing Watches is the trick like you said. My wife is a USCG Licensed
100 Ton Master for Sail/Power & commercial assistance towing. So she makes
up the Watch List. Me I am Chief Engr and keep it running.

She drives, does the navigation and Cruise planning, and as Senior Chef she make
sure we eat well onboard. (smile) We monitor VHF and HF SSB she has an "Extra
Class" and I have a "General " ham license so she out guns me the Ham license

All the Best & Safe Cruising

Capt Helen (KJ4UGF) and Chief Engr Bob Kovach (KJ4UGE)
http://www.qrz.com/ http://www.myallez.blogspot.comx/

Onboard M/Y ALLEZ! MT50 WB
MTOA 2631 AGLCA 1969, WRCC, USCG-ARC, USPS-ARC
USPS CHARLESTON S.C.
EMail: my_allez@yahoo.com

From: Bill Donovan trailersource@mindspring.com
To: Great Loop List great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: GL: South of Mobile Bay

Ralph and List:

If you cross from Carrabelle (or Apalachicola) on a overnight, you
don't have to go sleepless if there are two or more
watchstanders. When we cross, my wife and I take three hour shifts
with the one on watch doing things to stay alert and the one off
watch sleeping with two alarms set. That way, you can each get about
4-6 hours of sleep or more. That is usually enough for me to make it
through the entire arrival day.

Not really bad.

Bill

At 12:36 PM 9/29/2012, Ralph Yost wrote:

Rich
Thanks very much for this detail. We are on the Tenn River now and I have
been studying this crossing, trying to learn more about the options.
I dread the thought of doing an overnight without sleep. My body breaks down
pretty good in the evening. Sleep is valuable !
I sure would like to have an overnight sleep break to make it. But I know
there are a lot of "Ifs" with that option.
Thanks
R,

Our Great Loop blog is
http://www.SayGood-Bye.com

Youtube channel for the videos
www.youtube.com/user/ralphyost1

Say Good-Bye
41 Defever

-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Rich Gano
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:27 AM
To: Great Loop List
Subject: Re: GL: South of Mobile Bay

Crossing the Big Bend of Florida is usually accomplished by trawlerites from
the Dog Island/Carrabelle area. I have done it a couple of times from
Apalachicola, but the Government cut there is 1) over six nautical miles
from the closest inlet (Government Cut); 2) Government Cut can be a bit
iffy; 3) Carrabelle has much better marina facilities (even though it is
roughly the same distance from Dog Island Pass). Plus, there is a "crossing
guru" at the Moorings marina there who regularly consults with loopers.

If you want to accomplish the open water part of the crossing in one run
going from either the Apalachicola area or the Carrabelle/Dog Island area
and arrive in the sometimes crab pot-cluttered shallows around Anclote Key
in daylight the next morning, you need to leave in mid-afternoon if you are
traveling at typical trawler speeds.

Cedar Key: For those at trawler speed who do not wish to run through
darkness, Cedar Key is an intermediate stop allowing you to break the trip
up into two daylight runs. Once you decide on Cedar Key as a sleep-over
anchorage (there is no interest ashore in helping you or accommodating your
boat) , you next have to decide if you want to anchor in the lee of Sea
Horse Key at the southern end during darkness or go the whole 17 miles into
the "harbor" area closer to town, which has a little better protection from
weather. In any event, I highly discourage use of the much shorter (7
miles) Northwest Channel unless you transit at high tide, have protected
prop(s), and well less than four feet of draft (look at Active Captain for
all the warnings). If weather allows, the best bet is to anchor overnight
off Sea Horse Key.

For wave height perditions for my crossings, I like to check out
stromsurf.com where I find my way down to the Gulf of Mexico animated
predictions.

Rich Gano
Calypso (GB42 Hull # 295)
Panama City area, FL

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Bill Standing Watches is the trick like you said. My wife is a USCG Licensed 100 Ton Master for Sail/Power & commercial assistance towing. So she makes up the Watch List. Me I am Chief Engr and keep it running. She drives, does the navigation and Cruise planning, and as Senior Chef she make sure we eat well onboard. (smile) We monitor VHF and HF SSB she has an "Extra Class" and I have a "General " ham license so she out guns me the Ham license All the Best & Safe Cruising Capt Helen (KJ4UGF) and Chief Engr Bob Kovach (KJ4UGE) http://www.qrz.com/ http://www.myallez.blogspot.comx/ Onboard M/Y ALLEZ! MT50 WB MTOA 2631 AGLCA 1969, WRCC, USCG-ARC, USPS-ARC USPS CHARLESTON S.C. EMail: my_allez@yahoo.com ________________________________ From: Bill Donovan <trailersource@mindspring.com> To: Great Loop List <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 5:19 PM Subject: Re: GL: South of Mobile Bay Ralph and List: If you cross from Carrabelle (or Apalachicola) on a overnight, you don't have to go sleepless if there are two or more watchstanders. When we cross, my wife and I take three hour shifts with the one on watch doing things to stay alert and the one off watch sleeping with two alarms set. That way, you can each get about 4-6 hours of sleep or more. That is usually enough for me to make it through the entire arrival day. Not really bad. Bill At 12:36 PM 9/29/2012, Ralph Yost wrote: >Rich >Thanks very much for this detail. We are on the Tenn River now and I have >been studying this crossing, trying to learn more about the options. >I dread the thought of doing an overnight without sleep. My body breaks down >pretty good in the evening. Sleep is valuable ! >I sure would like to have an overnight sleep break to make it. But I know >there are a lot of "Ifs" with that option. >Thanks >R, > >Our Great Loop blog is >http://www.SayGood-Bye.com > >Youtube channel for the videos >www.youtube.com/user/ralphyost1 > >Say Good-Bye >41 Defever > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com >[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Rich Gano >Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:27 AM >To: Great Loop List >Subject: Re: GL: South of Mobile Bay > >Crossing the Big Bend of Florida is usually accomplished by trawlerites from >the Dog Island/Carrabelle area. I have done it a couple of times from >Apalachicola, but the Government cut there is 1) over six nautical miles >from the closest inlet (Government Cut); 2) Government Cut can be a bit >iffy; 3) Carrabelle has much better marina facilities (even though it is >roughly the same distance from Dog Island Pass). Plus, there is a "crossing >guru" at the Moorings marina there who regularly consults with loopers. > >If you want to accomplish the open water part of the crossing in one run >going from either the Apalachicola area or the Carrabelle/Dog Island area >and arrive in the sometimes crab pot-cluttered shallows around Anclote Key >in daylight the next morning, you need to leave in mid-afternoon if you are >traveling at typical trawler speeds. > >Cedar Key: For those at trawler speed who do not wish to run through >darkness, Cedar Key is an intermediate stop allowing you to break the trip >up into two daylight runs. Once you decide on Cedar Key as a sleep-over >anchorage (there is no interest ashore in helping you or accommodating your >boat) , you next have to decide if you want to anchor in the lee of Sea >Horse Key at the southern end during darkness or go the whole 17 miles into >the "harbor" area closer to town, which has a little better protection from >weather. In any event, I highly discourage use of the much shorter (7 >miles) Northwest Channel unless you transit at high tide, have protected >prop(s), and well less than four feet of draft (look at Active Captain for >all the warnings). If weather allows, the best bet is to anchor overnight >off Sea Horse Key. > >For wave height perditions for my crossings, I like to check out >stromsurf.com where I find my way down to the Gulf of Mexico animated >predictions. > >Rich Gano >Calypso (GB42 Hull # 295) >Panama City area, FL > > >_______________________________________________ >http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > >To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >unsubscribe, etc.) go to: >http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > >_______________________________________________ >http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > >To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >unsubscribe, etc.) go to: >http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/ >Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5298 - Release Date: 09/29/12 _______________________________________________ http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com