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Unless someone has had experience owning, operating or designing custom power catamarans over 75', megacats, then how can they seriously comment on what is right or wrong on a vessel of this size. My point being megayachts very rarely have opening windows and when owners are onboard almost always have air-conditioning operating. If the owner or guests want fresh air they go outside for a while until they get too hot and then they come inside. Most of Rod's experience is on smaller boats and therefore his views are inaccurate when it comes to vessels 80' and above and the likes and dislikes of those who can afford them. Yes there are some obvious disparities in Hay Fu I and II, but who is to say this was not exactly what the owner wanted. I know this owner as I worked with him and Captain Brian on the design and details of Hay Fu I and the owner always has the first and last say in how he wants his boat to be built, even if I didn't agree with some aspects of what he wanted. The window height in Hay Fu I and in every one of my designs is such that the view can be seen from a sitting or standing position which may not be the case with smaller production boats. The dining arrangement for Hay Fu I was the owner's arrangement that came from an interior designer friend of his. It was made off site and shipped to Theriault's where it was simply installed. My plans called for a self standing table and chairs. The light wood interior was also the owner's choice and he used the same on both vessels, so he must like it and I'm sure he doesn't consider resale value, not even for one minute. I don't know how much influence Captain Brian had on the owner and the design changes but I'm sure the owner respected his views. The designer of Hay Fu II, Gulf Breeze, Florida must also have had a lot to say in the design and ergonomics of the vessel, but I don't know these people or their experience so I cannot comment. I can say that unlike many designers I have served my time at sea living aboard a catamaran for five years and cruising from Australia to the Caribbean, the long way. That's when I commenced my nine year maritime career operating charter boats, corporate yachts and privately owned megayachts up to and including a 45 meter Feadship all over the world and that is why my designs are ergonomically designed and well laid out and I have had many comments and accolades on this fact. And Rod, Megacats DO NOT need fiddle rails, they do not throw things about like you imply. Next time you're at a superyacht show take a look onboard some of the big boys; it's a different world, these boats react differently to rough sea states than do smaller custom and production boats. You can even walk around on them in rough conditions WITHOUT holding on. The comment from P. King about Hay Fu II starboard dinghy garage I should point out is another Trawlercat Marine unique design feature that was so well thought of by Captain Brian that it was carried over into Hay Fu II. Finally every custom boat designer's concern is that the boat they would like to design but have to change to meet an owner's wishes is still judged by others as being their design. If an owner has some peculiar tastes the designer is "tarred with the same brush" and we have to live with it. Captain Graham Pfister President & Lead Designer Trawlercat Marine Designs -----Original Message----- From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:00 PM To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com Subject: Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 63, Issue 7 Send Power-Catamaran mailing list submissions to power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/power-catamaran or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to power-catamaran-request@lists.samurai.com You can reach the person managing the list at power-catamaran-owner@lists.samurai.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Power-Catamaran digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Weekender/Picnic PowerCat (brian eiland) 2. Musings on an 80-plus-foot power cat. (Rod Gibbons) 3. Re: Musings on an 80-plus-foot power cat. (Pat Reischmann) 4. abacos (P. King) 5. Re: Musings on an 80-plus-foot power cat. (brian eiland) 6. Re: Musings on an 80-plus-foot power cat. (Larry G.) Message: 3 Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:40:53 -0400 From: "Pat Reischmann" <preischmann@msn.com> To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: Re: [PCW] Musings on an 80-plus-foot power cat. Message-ID: <BAY123-DS139483EF689C36917AC933BFBD0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I don't see how you can critique a yacht like this from pictures accurately, this effort looks very good to me from the pictures and is built by a very experienced yard with proper certifications. I don't think I would worry about crumbs an spilled milk on the countertops, it wont be rocking and rolling very much. Interior fit and finish is in the eyes of the beholder on a custom effort and I don't think you can generalize about that. I have just as many clients that would prefer this interior over the Gucci ones. Most pilothouse windows are not designed to open and close since they are built out of heavy laminated glass, are meant to be watertight, and have windshield wipers forward, usually hatches provide the air. As someone who has built a few boats, and just finished a custom aluminum 50 ft. sailing cat for a client, I am impressed with what I can see from the photos. The only thing that might affect my point of view is what it cost. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 13:34:40 +0000 From: "P. King" <rnpking@hotmail.com> To: Cat List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: [PCW] abacos Message-ID: <BAY147-w65760E3FEB460E0780C3B3A8BD0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We were given the opportunity to tour Hayfu in George Town, Exuma this past winter by Capt. Brian. She is a beautiful boat. The aft starboard hull is a "garage" for the dinghy and lots of other water toys. We were anchored near the owners earlier version of this boat in George Town as well. We hope to see them again next winter. The Pretty Penny is home in the Chesapeake Bay for the summer. We will haul out the Pretty Penny this summer or early fall for it's annual check and new bottom paint in Reedville by Doug Jayne. (He was able to haul out our 49 foot, 23 foot bean boat on a trailer last year.) We also have to fix a small dent in the side made by the Bahamian Defense Force during a routine check of us and the boat. Plan is to head back to the Bahamas for our 4th winter this fall. Penny Kingsbury "The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the way." Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:52:56 -0400 From: "brian eiland" <beiland@usa.net> To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: Re: [PCW] Musings on an 80-plus-foot power cat. Message-ID: <385ogqPz50528S03.1279381976@web03.cms.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ------ Original Message ------ Received: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 05:09:54 AM EDT From: Rod Gibbons <rodgibbons@mindspring.com> To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com Subject: [PCW] Musings on an 80-plus-foot power cat. I found Rod's comments and observations VERY informative. He is listening to his client at the same time he is selling to him. To many manufacturers don't do that. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:47:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Larry G." <texflot@yahoo.com> To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: Re: [PCW] Musings on an 80-plus-foot power cat. Message-ID: <95397.97216.qm@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Rod: Thank you also for your articulate and detailed review of this enormous Expedition style cat. My lady and I love the Expedition look, but your comments brought several things to light. Just the same, I'd love to have such a yacht if only to be critiqued, and if I'm lucky enough to end up with it, I'll drop it by your place for a re-fit. Tex in Berlin --- On Sat, 7/17/10, Rod Gibbons <rodgibbons@mindspring.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List End of Power-Catamaran Digest, Vol 63, Issue 7 ********************************************** ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15450) http://free.pctools.com/ =======