D
danskviking@comcast.net
Thu, Apr 25, 2002 8:34 PM
I forgot if it's Shurflo or Par or Jabsco. It has a "VSV" in the name. I
have it on our trawler and it is awesome! It solved all our problems with
surging etc.
Hans
"Aqua Vitae"
----- Original Message -----
From: "trawler-world-list" owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com
To: trawler-world-list-digest@samurai.com
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:00 AM
Subject: trawler-world-list V5 #300
trawler-world-list Thursday, April 25 2002 Volume 05 : Number
TWL: Boat Mold Plug Construction
Re: TWL: Using computers in bright light
Re: TWL: transducer removal
TWL: RE: Re: Dock hoses
Re: TWL: Dock hoses
Re: TWL: Dock hoses
TWL: New style pressure water pump
TWL: Dock Hoses
TWL: Potable water filter
TWL: Window tinting
TWL: Using computers in bright light
TWL: Documentation Renewal
TWL: Interim trawler
TWL: Shipping a boat to Hawaii???
TWL: Side deck awnings
Re: TWL: Documentation Renewal - A Follow-up
Re: TWL: Documentation Renewal - A Follow-up
RE: TWL: Thanks and a whole slew of new issues/watermakers
Fwd: TWL: New style pressure water pump
TWL: waterproofing canvas
TWL: Benmar autopilot electric clutch
TWL: WhisperGen
TWL: Re: Potable water filter
TWL: Side deck awnings and puller and why you should have one.
TWL: Re: Latex Paint
Re: TWL: Re: Latex Paint
TWL: Overhead
TWL: Re: Documentation Renewal
TWL: Re: Charts
Re: TWL: Overhead
Re: TWL: Re: Charts
TWL: door skins
TWL: RE: door skins
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:10:43 -0700
From: "George Brooks, N7HPE" gbrooks@ncia.com
Subject: TWL: Boat Mold Plug Construction
I never cease to be surprised at the variety of industries in our out in
sticks area of NW Washington State. The weekend before last I toured the
close by Nordic Tug factory. Tonight a friend asked me to join him at an
American Society of Mechanical Engineers (ASME) meeting in Sedro-Woolley,
. The meeting was 15 miles from home at Janicki Industries.
Among other things these folks build the plugs from which the molds are
for hull, deck, cabin and other boat parts. Plugs are made by building a
wood core and then applying a special putty to the core several inches
thick. They then use a computer controlled 5 axis milling machine to
machine the surface of the putty to the exact final desired shape of the
plug. The amazing thing was the size of the cores and milling machine.
Their largest unit can mill one-piece plugs as large as 88' by 20' by 8'.
few of their marine customers mentioned were Delta Marine, Northern
Bayliner, and Carver. They have built multi-piece plugs for hulls in the
range of 150' long. Tonight we saw a plug being machined for a mega-yacht
radar arch.
They have a website at http://www.janicki.com/ . You can see some
of their activities. No connection, didn't even know they existed until
today.
Regards,
George Brooks
Nereid V
La Conner, WA , USA
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:37:43 -0700
From: "Mike Schooley" schooley@keyway.net
Subject: Re: TWL: Using computers in bright light
Ian wrote, "What is the ralationship between nits and Contrast Ratio??"
There isn't any relationship it is like comparing color and weight or
and horse power. The contrast ratio is the ratio of light emitted when the
screen is white to the light emitted when it is black. This is usually
in a dark room with the intensity turned down very low. At high intensity
levels the contrast ratio is much lower. Very few companies rate their
displays at high backlight levels.
Cheers;
Mike Schooley
Designing "Portager" a 36 foot trailerable trawler
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:32:34 -0400
From: jag@vcn.bc.ca (John Gallagher)
Subject: Re: TWL: transducer removal
I'm doing the annual haul out thing starting this weekend (I'll be out
for about a week) and one of my projects is to remove a transducer that
serves an old Furuno colour sounder. It is mounted about amid ships,
Gregg
This type of repair is usually done all on the inside if possible. Dish
out / bevel the holes on the inside. Cut several pieces of fibreglass mat
and wowen roving to fit in the bevelled out holes i.e the pieces will
increase in size, the largest, in your case will probably cover all three
holes. The hull is probably .5" or so thick so you will need a few pieces.
Sand off the bottom paint immediately around the holes on the outside and
tape waxpaper, saran wrap etc over the holes. From the inside saturate
your cut pieces with resin/cold cure and place them in / over the holes.
John
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:28:50 +0800
From: "Nunas" Nunas@pacific.net.sg
Subject: TWL: RE: Re: Dock hoses
We have a number of filters on AKAMA, which we use singly or in
combination, depending on the circumstances. They are all standard
10-inch filters.
On the main water line, right after the accumulator tank we have a dual
filter and UV sterilizer. The first filter is a string filter and the
second is a carbon block. The UV sterilizer is a lamp in a test tube
suspended in the centre of the carbon block filter. We LOVE the "taste"
of our water, since it has none. This used to be only on the kitchen
sink, but we prefer to be able to drink the water from any tap.
The water maker has a carbon block filter between it and the water
tanks.
Portable String filter: This is the stalwart of our filing filters. We
ALWAYS put this in the line right at the tap, regardless of the supposed
quality of the tap water. You'd be amazed how often it catches crud.
After we use it, we back flush it, put in a cap full of Clorox, and fill
it with water.
Portable carbon block filter: This has two uses. First, if the tap
water smells it goes in right after the string filter. Also, when we
back-flush the water maker, the carbon filter is inserted between the
pressure water (usually our from our on-board pressure system) and the
water maker.
We have a 75' hose, a 50' hose and several other bits and pieces. All
are ordinary garden hoses of one sort or another except he 50-footer,
which is a food-grade hose (no taste imparted to the water). All of them
and the two portable filters have click-on (Gardena, etc.) connectors,
instead of the usual screw on ones. We also have three coil-hoses in
strategic spots, used exclusively for their intended purpose, such as
wash down (never added to the other hoses to fill the tanks).
We also have a box of various tap adapters with click-on terminations,
and a bunch of miscellaneous connectors, so that we can cut a piece of
hose and make up an adapter as needed (not usually needed).
M
What are poeples experiences with filters on the garden hose used to
fill
the water tank?
Should there be a carbon filter in line with the garden hose--which
removes
the chlorine, or should the carbon filter be added at the sink?
Usually you would want to leave the chlorine in the tank.
My tanks will be Fiberglass.
Thanks for the idea about having spare pieces of hose ready to build
Europe
adapters.
What sizes have people used in the Med?
Do I really need the different sizes of hose 1/2", 5/8" and 3/4"?
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:35:38 -0400
From: "Charles Monroe" chasmnro@bestweb.net
Subject: Re: TWL: Dock hoses
Beware of using the cheap, yellow "quick disconnect" fittings. I
fitted one on the nozzle end, connected my new nozzle, went over
turned the water on, and ZOOM my nozzle flew about 20' out into the
water. Damn nozzle didn't know how to swim either which was not
really unique as I've found out that few tools know how. SOB!. 8^(
Charles Monroe
Ebb Tide, 1979 Marine Trader, 34', DC
Pt. Patience Marina, Solomons, MD.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: GeorgGeist@aol.com
To: scotts@advret.com; trawler-world-list@samurai.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: TWL: Dock hoses
<<< snip>>>
Also you see more and more people having quick connect fittings on
their hoses and attachments even
thugh most marina outlets have standard screw-on taps.
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:19:34 -0400
From: Bob McLeran rmcleran@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: TWL: Dock hoses
I've been using those yellow quick connect fittings for a number of
years, at home as well as on Sanderling. I've only had them "fly off"
when I didn't seat them properly - have to make sure they're pushed into
the complimentary fitting as far as they will go, then try to pull them
apart. If they won't pull apart by hand, they won't "fly off" when you
turn on the water.
Charles Monroe wrote:
Beware of using the cheap, yellow "quick disconnect" fittings. I
fitted one on the nozzle end, connected my new nozzle, went over
turned the water on, and ZOOM my nozzle flew about 20' out into the
Bob McLeran mailto://rmcleran@ix.netcom.com
M/V "Sanderling" Docked at Point Patience Marina
Hailing port: Wianno MA Solomons, MD
Hampton 35 Trawler
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:23:04 -0400
From: "hknott4@comcast.net" hknott4@comcast.net
Subject: TWL: New style pressure water pump
I remember a couple of comments about a new style of potable water system
pump. I think it was said to be quieter and va=
ried it's speed depending on demand. Can someone give me a little more
info on this pump, including manufacturer, model =
no. and maybe a catalogue reference?
Thanks,
mail2web - Check your email from the web at
http://mail2web.com/ .
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:37:38 -0500
From: Keith klemmons@airmail.net
Subject: TWL: Dock Hoses
Scott wrote: "What are poeples experiences with filters on the garden
hose used to fill
the water tank?
Should there be a carbon filter in line with the garden hose--which
removes
the chlorine, or should the carbon filter be added at the sink?
Usually you would want to leave the chlorine in the tank."
We had a discussion on this awhile back. I personally think you should
put a filter at the tap and leave the chlorine in the tank. That's what
I do. I use a PUR filter at the kitchen sink tap, and it works great. If
you have sediment from your dock water, you probably have other problems
with it as well.
Keith
AAAAAA: American Association Against Acronym Abuse and Ambiguity.
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:40:35 -0500
From: Keith klemmons@airmail.net
Subject: TWL: Potable water filter
Bob wrote: "The water is so soft, the first mate dislikes taking showers
and washing
her hair onboard because a soap scum/film always seems to remain. The
water happens to be naturally soft - no "water softener" needed - and
the marina's heads have the same problem. Otherwise, the water is fine -
no odors or noticeably bad taste. "
Bob, I think you've got it backwards. "Hard" water is what causes
soap/scum film to remain. It's full of minerals. You need to "soften"
the water with a water softener unit of some type. They use salt
tablets, and can be found at most Sears stores or other hardware places.
I've never had to mess with one, so I don't know about the availability
of units that would be properly sized for the boat. You could also look
in the yellow pages under water conditioning or something like that, or
look up "Culligan" in the white pages. I think they're pretty much
everywhere.
Keith
Leaving the dock is optional. Returning is mandatory.
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:45:47 -0500
From: Keith klemmons@airmail.net
Subject: TWL: Window tinting
Bob and Vicki wrote: "We are interested in reducing the amount of heat
and UV rays in our saloon.
We drive the boat from there, so we do not want a tint, but rather a
film of
some sort that would do this. We would like it to be as "clear" as
possible."
Kind of mutually exclusive. You can cut out some of the UV with window
tinting films that contain UV screeners/inhibitors, but they won't do
much to keep heat out. I have laminated, tinted glass in my PH from the
factory, so I don't see any problem with using a tinting film on
laminated glass. I imagine the warning was based on heating up the
laminate, but hey... car windshields get plenty hot and don't
delaminate. You could look for some screening film at Home Depot, or on
the web. I would suggest you put it on just one window first, and see
how it works and how your night vision is.
Another option is to get the roll-down tint shades that the tugboats
use. I'm looking into these right now, but don't have a price quote yet.
http://metromarine.com/
Keith
A good plan executed right now is far better than a perfect plan
executed next week." - George S. Patton
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:49:30 -0500
From: Keith klemmons@airmail.net
Subject: TWL: Using computers in bright light
Todd wrote: "I've been testing some different computer systems in my
pilothouse to see
how well they work with bright sunlight. I have found one that works
well.
But the expense - "Mother of Pearl!" as Robin would say. I'm wondering
if
anyone has tried this product on their boats:
http://www.compushade.com/how.htm"
I looked at those various products, and ended up making a couple myself
from flat black craft board obtained at Office Depot. The board was
about $3 plus some sticky velcro, and I have two foldable, stowable
light shields. Even cut a piece to sit over the keyboard to stop
reflected light from bouncing up on the monitor. I'll send anyone who's
interested the cutting diagrams. It's a bit tricky and I learned after a
couple of tries.
Keith
A loser is a window washer on the 44th floor who steps back to admire
his work..
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:53:58 -0500
From: Keith klemmons@airmail.net
Subject: TWL: Documentation Renewal
Wayne wrote: Question to owners of USCG Documented Vessels: Have you
sent in the renewal,
but was later sent a letter, saying your renewal was not received and
that
you owed a $5.00 fee for processing a late renewal?
We did. We had sent the renewal back immediately upon receiving the
letter to
renew the documentation. There were no changes, so I just signed and
dated it
and sent it back as required.
We have now sent the late renewal in, with the $5.00 late fee, so
supposedly
all is well.
I am curious if this is a "widespread problem" or if I am just unlucky
to
have the letter get lost somewhere.
I just sent my two in. One was delivered right back to my PO Box. The
darned form that the USCG is using now is really stupid. For those of
you who haven't seen it, you fill out your information, fold and staple
it, and mail it. Well, the USCG's address is on one side, and yours is
on the other! Guess where the post office delivered mine? To my po box,
on the opposite side from where the stamp was. I sure hope they figure
this problem out and fix it soon. Also, the flimsy construction of this
"mailer" probably lends itself to getting torn up by the machinery at
the PO, what with thin paper, and staples or tape on it. Cheesy.
Keith
"I'm not allowed to comment on lousy officiating."
- -Jim Finks, New Orleans Saints G.M., when asked after a loss
what he thought of the refs, 1986
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:02:38 -0500
From: Keith klemmons@airmail.net
Subject: TWL: Interim trawler
Frank wrote: "However, it is a 15 Knot Delta where we live and just
to get from Sacramento to Monterey is over 225 nautical miles. We could
do
such a weekend trip in something like a Mainship 390 or a Nordhavn
Coastal
Pilot (35 footer)."
Not a bad plan, but keep in mind boat value/depreciation. When I last
ran the numbers, you pretty much had to keep a new boat for five years
to make financial sense. That's about when the depreciation curve
flattens out. If you're going to own a boat for less than three years,
I'd try to buy one 3-8 years old or so. Too new, and you'll take a
financial hit on the sale. Too old, and you'll be spending lots of money
for upgrades/maintenance for the benefit of the new owner. Good luck!
Keith
If at first you don't succeed, try management.
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:18:44 -0400
From: "Pisciotta, Peter P, RTLSL" pisciotta@att.com
Subject: TWL: Shipping a boat to Hawaii???
A friend with a PT 38 is moving to Hawaii. He has received some pretty =
astronomical estimates for shipping it (up to $50K). Anyone have any =
bright ideas on getting this beast across the Pacific?
Thanks in advance-
Peter
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:37:57 -0400
From: Captain Al Pilvinis yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Subject: TWL: Side deck awnings
At 08:52 AM 4/24/02 -0400, you wrote:
Thanks, Al. Simple, but elegant! Was it originally your design?
Al, you may have also shared before the details of your side-deck
If so, would you share them again? I'm guessing that one edge is slid
into a slotted track and they are rolled up and tied when not in use?
Also, do you also have them over the front saloon windows?
---=======================
Not my design on the puller Mel, it was copied from a commercial unit only
made much cheaper.
The Awnings have a little tab with a zipper that slides into a slot, so
that I can zip the shades off instead of having to pull the whole rig out
of the slot. They are also able to be rolled up when not in use and have
tabs to hold them up. I have awnings for the front also. I'll see if I can
find a good picture showing the front and side awnings. These are my
design.........
I hope you don't mind me putting this on the net for I had a lot of
inquiries the last time I posted it, and now with summer coming I think a
lot of people wish they had these coolers.
.
Captain Al Pilvinis
"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:36:18 EDT
From: Albin43Tr@aol.com
Subject: Re: TWL: Documentation Renewal - A Follow-up
'lo All,
Just before I sent out the original email about this, I had called the 800
number on the form. It is for a vary convoluted voice mail system. I was
hold for about 10-15 minutes before I even got into the system (a good
to have a speaker phone). I gave them my phone number and problem.
This morning, a very pleasant lady called, identifying herself as from the
USCG Documentation Office. I told her what had happened; that I had sent
renewal form in when I received it and that I had also sent the late form
with the required $5.00. She informed me that they had been having quite a
few complaints about the renewal forms not being delivered to the boat
as well as not getting the forms back even though the owners stated that
had mailed them. I told her I knew that other folks had problems with
system (thanks to the TWLers) and that the problem needed to be addressed.
She said that she would relay my comments to her supervisors and that I
should get the renewal certificate (or whatever it is) by next Wednesday.
Apparently, a lot of folks were having problems with the little stickers
sticking permanently to the documentation papers, which is why they went
the new system. Heck, I couldn't even get the old ones off of the old
of the documentation papers, so they just piled up about 1/4" thick. I
haven't seen the new replacement for the stamp/sticker, so cannot comment
it.
Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised by the (?young?) lady's pleasantness
candor. Nice to call Uncle Sam, leave a message, actually get called back,
and the person calling back not be a self-important bureaucrat. She made a
nice start for the day! :)
Wayne
M/V Celestial
Albin 43 Sundeck
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:52:13 -0400
From: Ron Rogers rcrogers6@comcast.net
Subject: Re: TWL: Documentation Renewal - A Follow-up
It is my understanding that this process is administered by a contractor
USCG. Hard to tell whether you got to a government employee or a
My experience is that most people in West Virginia are a pleasure to work
with.
Ron Rogers
This morning, a very pleasant lady called, identifying herself as from
USCG Documentation Office. <SNIP>
Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised by the (?young?) lady's pleasantness
candor. Nice to call Uncle Sam, leave a message, actually get called
and the person calling back not be a self-important bureaucrat. She made
nice start for the day! :)
Wayne
M/V Celestial
Albin 43 Sundeck
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:55:38 -0700
From: "Jennifer Hamilton" jenh@microsoft.com
Subject: RE: TWL: Thanks and a whole slew of new issues/watermakers
I agree wholeheartedly with Bob. We are basically in the same situation-
we are both working full-time and have limited vacation time, but would
one day like to have an ocean-capable vessel. Our current boat is more
than adequate for the coastal cruising that we do and being capable of
16-17 knots means that we can get places fast which is really important
when you only have a limited amount of time to travel. We use the boat
all year and have run more than a thousand hours in just over two years.
I expect we wouldn't get nearly as much use out of it if our range was
heavily restricted by travel time. And you will definitely learn a ton
by owning any boat - everything from navigation to onboard systems to
space requirements to what kind of cruising you like to do. So think
hard about what will work for you now and then you can enjoy it know and
start learning and planning for the future. But consider carefully your
first purchase too, as you want to make sure that it will be comfortable
enough (space, equipment, range, etc) for the kind of cruising you
anticipate doing in the near future so that you enjoy it.
=20
Jennifer Hamilton
M/V Dirona
Seattle, WA
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bob Austin [mailto:thataway4@cox.net]=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:26 PM
To: fxw@gwgi2010.com
Cc: 1trawler world
Subject: Re: TWL: Thanks and a whole slew of new issues/watermakers
I think that you are wise to get experience in a smaller boat until you
are
ready for THE trip or retirement.
My philosophy is to purchase a boat that does the job best for what you
want
to do currently. When taking long trips purchase the boat that is best
for
that--for local trips the boat that is best for that. You will learn a
lot
from any boat you own--and gain confidence. Perhaps your idea of what
you
want to do will change and you will learn more about the different types
of
boats.
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:27:45 -0700
From: Frank Osborne Frank.Osborne@verizon.net
Subject: Fwd: TWL: New style pressure water pump
I remember a couple of comments about a new style of potable water system
pump. I think it was said to be quieter and varied it's speed depending
on demand. Can someone give me a little more info on this pump,
manufacturer, model no. and maybe a catalogue reference?
Thanks,
-Mel
so quite you can not even tell it's running from anywhere except in the
engine room where you can hear a soft purring sound. We got the model 17
with 4.5 gpm and the water pressure is very strong and constant, no
pulsing. No accumulator tank is needed because the variable speed motor
changes speed to match the demand. The only downside to it is that with
standard pumps, if you had a slow leak or someone left a faucet on, you
would hear the pump cycling. With this pump you'd never hear it, it would
just run at a very slow speed, forever. Ever since we had a fitting pop
the bottom of a faucet and the pump tried to empty the entire contents of
the water tanks, 360 gal, into the aft head cabinet, we try to remember to
always turn the water pump off at the breaker before we leave the boat.
Frank Osborne & Linda Penwarden
'Island Fever', 44 Defever
http://www.OsborneConsulting.com/IslandFever/IslandFever_Main.htm
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:31:49 -0500
From: "Robert Firehammer" rsf@charter.net
Subject: TWL: waterproofing canvas
Any suggestion as to the type of waterproofing spray I should use on my
older canvas top and sidecurtains?
Robert Firehammer
NE Wisc
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:48:57 -0400
From: "Bill Blackburn" probe@binghamton.edu
Subject: TWL: Benmar autopilot electric clutch
Dear Listees,
I am trying to locate an electric clutch for a Benmar CS21 or CC220, Type
Power Unit of late 1970's/early 1980's vintage. I checked with Benmar;
don't have them. Anybody out there have or know of any old Benmar
or parts laying around? Thanks in advance for any leads.
Regards,
Bill
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:59:12 -0400
From: Terry Hoy THOY@TELE-CONNECT.COM
Subject: TWL: WhisperGen
This is a follow-up to a thread from the beginning of the month. I =
received
this e-mail today. . 13 BU's seems steep for the size of the system.
Spring Lake, MI is close to me so I may have a chance to visit them in =
the
near future
Terry Hoy
Victron Energy announces North american operations
Chris Carli, Managing Director, Victron Energy B.V. =
(www.victronenergy.com
http://www.victronenergy.com) an international leader in the design =
and
manufacture of power supply=92s, chargers, inverters, combined chargers =
and
inverters, battery management controllers and instrumentation, etc.
announces the opening of their North American Operations and the =
appointment
of 35-year industry veteran, Bob Kress as its General Manager. Bob=92s
previous experience includes operations management, marketing, sales,
product development and design with Charles Industries, Attwood =
Corporation,
LIPS Propellers, Michigan Wheel Corporation and the Defense Space =
Division
of Chrysler Corporation.=20
Victron Energy=92s Worldwide Headquarters with some of its =
manufacturing
facilities are based in the Netherlands. Other manufacturing facilities =
are
located in India. Reinout Vader, Chairman of Victron Energy BV began =
his
entrepreneurial career in 1975 by starting Victron BV, while pursuing a
graduate degree in physics. In 1980 he expanded his operations to =
include
design and manufacturing of UPS systems. This company soon became a =
leading
supplier of UPS systems to European and Asian banks. In 1996 Victron =
merged
with InvertoMatic of Switzerland, forming a new company IMV =
(www.imv.com
http://www.imv.com) at the same time Victron Energy became an =
independent
company by separating itself from IMV . In July of this year IMV was
acquired by General Electric Digital Energy. Other sales offices of =
Victron
Energy are located in the UK, France, and now with the North American
Operation located in the Great Lakes region, specifically Spring Lake =
MI as
Victron Energy pursues it=92s ambitious plans for continued growth.
The North American Operation (www.victronenergy-USA.com
http://www.victronenergy-USA.com) will be responsible for developing =
new
product and integrating these with other proven Victron Energy products =
into
customer driven marketable intelligent AC and DC systems. Voltage and
frequency conversion equipment with integral isolation transformers, =
network
compatible microprocessor controlled chargers and inverters (standalone =
or
combined). In addition Victron offers micro co-generation systems =
providing
heat and power the WhisperGen. A demo installation is located at the =
USA
offices. This new office will serve the North American automotive, =
specialty
and heavy duty truck, recreational vehicle, industrial, marine, remote =
site
and alternative energy markets.
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:03:50 -0400
From: "John Gaquin" jgaquin@earthlink.net
Subject: TWL: Re: Potable water filter
Bob, I think you've got it backwards. "Hard" water is what causes
soap/scum film to remain.
No, I know exactly what Bob means. Hard water will leave a mineral
on your shower walls, but soft will make you feel "filmy". When you have
very soft water, you can rinse til the cows come home, and you'll still
as if you've got a soap film on your skin. No "squeaky clean" feeling
that shower, even though you are, in fact, quite clean. I grew up with
a water supply (Boston), and never noticed it, until I joined the AF and
went to a place that actually had some mineral content in the water.
I could completely rinse in the shower in only 4 seconds!
JG
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:03:08 -0400
From: Captain Al Pilvinis yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Subject: TWL: Side deck awnings and puller and why you should have one.
Did you ever say to yourself I don't need that tool because I don't know
how to use it or I don't need that propeller puller because I don't dive
and don't have tanks.
Think about it. If you are off in some secluded area and you need a
propeller changed you might find a guy that could do it if you only had a
puller. If you are anchored away from the world and you need an injector
changed but you know you don't know how to do it, with a spare injector
if you have the proper tools you may find someone mechanically inclined
would change it for you. So the next time you say to yourself - I don't
need that tool because I don't know how to use it, if you think it might
important, take one along - there is someone out there that could probally
do the job for you if only he had the right tools.
The picture of the side deck and fore deck awnings is at the following
http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain/pix.html
Stay cool.
.
Captain Al Pilvinis
"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:39:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Richter Richter-Pooh@rocketmail.com
Subject: TWL: Re: Latex Paint
For a less-than-yacht finish on boat topsides, I can
highly recommend a two-part epoxy from Sherwin
Williams called "Tile Clad HS". Susanne and I just
completed a topsides repainting on Winnie the Pooh on
Saturday. The Tile-Clad comes in glossy and
"eggshell" finishes; we like the eggshell because it
has great hiding power on less than perfect hulls. We
roll the paint on thickly (it is a very thick
paint)and don't tip. Two gallons did Pooh's topsides
(46'), one coat with a quart left over.
The only downside to this paint is that it chalks in
sunlight, and will rub off on your skin or clothes, so
don't use it where you will brush up against it. We
paid $36/gal at a Sherwin Williams store in Stuart,
FL.
Mark
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:05:13 -0400
From: Captain Al Pilvinis yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: TWL: Re: Latex Paint
At 02:39 PM 4/24/02 -0700, you wrote:
For a less-than-yacht finish on boat topsides, I can
highly recommend a two-part epoxy from Sherwin
Williams called "Tile Clad HS". Susanne and I just
completed a topsides repainting on Winnie the Pooh on
Saturday. The Tile-Clad comes in glossy and
"eggshell" finishes; we like the eggshell because it
has great hiding power on less than perfect hulls. We
roll the paint on thickly (it is a very thick
paint)and don't tip. Two gallons did Pooh's topsides
(46'), one coat with a quart left over.
The only downside to this paint is that it chalks in
sunlight, and will rub off on your skin or clothes, so
don't use it where you will brush up against it. We
paid $36/gal at a Sherwin Williams store in Stuart,
FL.
Mark
---========================
Well done Mark.........Another upside to chalking paint or gel coat is you
will not get those black rain streaks. This is why they put chalking paint
on a house, self washing. If there is a spot where you come in contact,
wash well and it may be a week or two before it starts chalking again. I
let my gel coat chalk except where I rub against it. Always crisp and
white, but the yachty hi gloss is missing.
Works for me and I'm not wearing away the gel coat with compound and all
that elbow grease.............
.
Captain Al Pilvinis
"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:47:10 -0400
From: "Leonard Brunotte" LB@myguardian.com
Subject: TWL: Overhead
To All:
We would sincerely appreciate material and fastening advice for a new
headliner. We are replacing our overhead liner and would like to install
fabric covered panels that have matching butt joints. Our questions are:
- What type light weight thin material is used for the overhead panels.
- What type of fastening system is used to mount the overhead panels.
Again, all help will be truly appreciated.
Kindest Regards,
Len Brunotte
Please Reply:
email - lb@myguardian.com
phone - 321-639-2743
fax - 321-636-6377
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:17:32 -0400
From: awoods@surfbest.net
Subject: TWL: Re: Documentation Renewal
I just sent my two in. One was delivered right back to my PO Box. The
darned form that the USCG is using now is really stupid. For those of
you who haven't seen it, you fill out your information, fold and staple
it, and mail it. Well, the USCG's address is on one side, and yours is
on the other! Guess where the post office delivered mine? To my po box,
I didn't like the way this form was working, so I stuffed it into a
addressed envelope!
Andy & Linda Woods
Grand Folly
1970 Grand Banks 36 Classic
Georgetown, MD
awoods@surfbest.net
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:57:52 -0400
From: Peggy Carr chesapklady@comcast.net
Subject: TWL: Re: Charts
Has anyone any online links to charts for sale for the Pacific Northwest
and on into Alaska. The local chart dealer here in San Diego charges me
a chart which I think is high.<<
I've never actually tried these people, but the charts that I've found
(that unfortunately I'd already bought elsewhere) were 10-15% less than
I paid a couple of weeks ago.
http://www.tidesend.com/
Peggy Carr
"Aqua Vitae"
1986 Albin 43
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:29:57 -0500
From: "Bob Austin" thataway4@cox.net
Subject: Re: TWL: Overhead
There are a number of headliner materials. One of my favorites is a
cell PVC foam on some of the smaller boats as both a headliner and hull
liner. This is about 1/8" in thickness and is very pliable and easily
fastened with contact cements.
My favorite way of putting headliners up is to put the fabric on 1/8"
skins--that have been cut to size, sealed then covered with the fabric of
choice. Then the seams between the pannels is covered with a narrow (1/4"
1" wide) teak strip--that is screwed in place with SS screws. These
can be covered with teak plugs, but I feel it is best to leave the screw
heads for easy access if the pannels have to be removed.
With this techinique one can put a layer of insullation between the
headliner and the actual cabin top.
Defender has material that seems to be the same as the PVC I describe on
page 58, item no. 753089
There are a number of materials in Boat U S catalogue page 583.
Regards,
Bob Austin
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:42:12 -0500
From: "Bob Austin" thataway4@cox.net
Subject: Re: TWL: Re: Charts
One thing to remember that if you order these chart replications that they
are xerographic copies that are in black and white. I have used some
of charts--but I use marking pens to color blue the edge of the deep
yellow for land, and red for rocks and obstructions.
If you have friends who will loan you charts; U S NOOA charts are not
copyrighted and can be coppied--this may not be true of chart books and
other national charts. It is inexpensive to have an drafting copy
make copies.
I personally usually purchase chart books.
However at times, I have had the good fortune to have a tug or ship give
their old charts. These commercial vessels have to have the most recent
version and will give away their old charts. These can be hand corrected
the most recent Notice to Mariners. The rocks etc don't change. Buoys,
breakwaters, docks etc do change--so use caution.
Bob Austin
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:25:42 -0500
From: "Bob Austin" thataway4@cox.net
Subject: TWL: door skins
I have had several inquiries as to what a "door skin is". Door skins are
three laminate layer plywood 3mm or 1/8" thick. These are the size of a
door and used to reface doors. 6'8" in height and anywhere from 2 to 3
in width. The wood is usually blemish free, the laminates are without
and glue is exterior glue. Many are Luan a Philipine mahagony--some are
birch.
I find that the smaller size is easier to work with than the 4x8 sheets of
thin plywood--and less expensive.
These also make good templates or "tic" boards for making bulkheads etc.
"tic" board uses lines, measurements and straight battens to outline an
irregular shape such as a bulkhead).
Regards,
Bob Austin
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:41:15 -0700
From: "Doug Barnard" dbarnard@virtualacreage.com
Subject: TWL: RE: door skins
These also make good templates or "tic" boards for making
bulkheads etc. (a
"tic" board uses lines, measurements and straight battens to outline an
irregular shape such as a bulkhead).
I look in back of bicycle shops for my pattern material. Am I cheap, or
what! Also, you can use a razor point Pilot pen on cardboard to get a
super-thin line.
db
End of trawler-world-list V5 #300
I forgot if it's Shurflo or Par or Jabsco. It has a "VSV" in the name. I
have it on our trawler and it is awesome! It solved all our problems with
surging etc.
Hans
"Aqua Vitae"
----- Original Message -----
From: "trawler-world-list" <owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com>
To: <trawler-world-list-digest@samurai.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:00 AM
Subject: trawler-world-list V5 #300
>
> trawler-world-list Thursday, April 25 2002 Volume 05 : Number
300
>
>
>
> TWL: Boat Mold Plug Construction
> Re: TWL: Using computers in bright light
> Re: TWL: transducer removal
> TWL: RE: Re: Dock hoses
> Re: TWL: Dock hoses
> Re: TWL: Dock hoses
> TWL: New style pressure water pump
> TWL: Dock Hoses
> TWL: Potable water filter
> TWL: Window tinting
> TWL: Using computers in bright light
> TWL: Documentation Renewal
> TWL: Interim trawler
> TWL: Shipping a boat to Hawaii???
> TWL: Side deck awnings
> Re: TWL: Documentation Renewal - A Follow-up
> Re: TWL: Documentation Renewal - A Follow-up
> RE: TWL: Thanks and a whole slew of new issues/watermakers
> Fwd: TWL: New style pressure water pump
> TWL: waterproofing canvas
> TWL: Benmar autopilot electric clutch
> TWL: WhisperGen
> TWL: Re: Potable water filter
> TWL: Side deck awnings and puller and why you should have one.
> TWL: Re: Latex Paint
> Re: TWL: Re: Latex Paint
> TWL: Overhead
> TWL: Re: Documentation Renewal
> TWL: Re: Charts
> Re: TWL: Overhead
> Re: TWL: Re: Charts
> TWL: door skins
> TWL: RE: door skins
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:10:43 -0700
> From: "George Brooks, N7HPE" <gbrooks@ncia.com>
> Subject: TWL: Boat Mold Plug Construction
>
> I never cease to be surprised at the variety of industries in our out in
the
> sticks area of NW Washington State. The weekend before last I toured the
> close by Nordic Tug factory. Tonight a friend asked me to join him at an
> American Society of Mechanical Engineers (ASME) meeting in Sedro-Woolley,
WA
> . The meeting was 15 miles from home at Janicki Industries.
>
> Among other things these folks build the plugs from which the molds are
made
> for hull, deck, cabin and other boat parts. Plugs are made by building a
> wood core and then applying a special putty to the core several inches
> thick. They then use a computer controlled 5 axis milling machine to
> machine the surface of the putty to the exact final desired shape of the
> plug. The amazing thing was the size of the cores and milling machine.
> Their largest unit can mill one-piece plugs as large as 88' by 20' by 8'.
A
> few of their marine customers mentioned were Delta Marine, Northern
Marine,
> Bayliner, and Carver. They have built multi-piece plugs for hulls in the
> range of 150' long. Tonight we saw a plug being machined for a mega-yacht
> radar arch.
>
> They have a website at http://www.janicki.com/ . You can see some
pictures
> of their activities. No connection, didn't even know they existed until
> today.
>
> Regards,
>
> George Brooks
> Nereid V
> La Conner, WA , USA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:37:43 -0700
> From: "Mike Schooley" <schooley@keyway.net>
> Subject: Re: TWL: Using computers in bright light
>
> Ian wrote, "What is the ralationship between nits and Contrast Ratio??"
>
> There isn't any relationship it is like comparing color and weight or
volume
> and horse power. The contrast ratio is the ratio of light emitted when the
> screen is white to the light emitted when it is black. This is usually
rated
> in a dark room with the intensity turned down very low. At high intensity
> levels the contrast ratio is much lower. Very few companies rate their
> displays at high backlight levels.
>
> Cheers;
> Mike Schooley
> Designing "Portager" a 36 foot trailerable trawler
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:32:34 -0400
> From: jag@vcn.bc.ca (John Gallagher)
> Subject: Re: TWL: transducer removal
>
> >I'm doing the annual haul out thing starting this weekend (I'll be out
> >for about a week) and one of my projects is to remove a transducer that
> >serves an old Furuno colour sounder. It is mounted about amid ships,
>
> Gregg
>
> This type of repair is usually done all on the inside if possible. Dish
> out / bevel the holes on the inside. Cut several pieces of fibreglass mat
> and wowen roving to fit in the bevelled out holes i.e the pieces will
> increase in size, the largest, in your case will probably cover all three
> holes. The hull is probably .5" or so thick so you will need a few pieces.
> Sand off the bottom paint immediately around the holes on the outside and
> tape waxpaper, saran wrap etc over the holes. From the inside saturate
> your cut pieces with resin/cold cure and place them in / over the holes.
>
> John
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:28:50 +0800
> From: "Nunas" <Nunas@pacific.net.sg>
> Subject: TWL: RE: Re: Dock hoses
>
> We have a number of filters on AKAMA, which we use singly or in
> combination, depending on the circumstances. They are all standard
> 10-inch filters.
>
> On the main water line, right after the accumulator tank we have a dual
> filter and UV sterilizer. The first filter is a string filter and the
> second is a carbon block. The UV sterilizer is a lamp in a test tube
> suspended in the centre of the carbon block filter. We LOVE the "taste"
> of our water, since it has none. This used to be only on the kitchen
> sink, but we prefer to be able to drink the water from any tap.
>
> The water maker has a carbon block filter between it and the water
> tanks.
>
> Portable String filter: This is the stalwart of our filing filters. We
> ALWAYS put this in the line right at the tap, regardless of the supposed
> quality of the tap water. You'd be amazed how often it catches crud.
> After we use it, we back flush it, put in a cap full of Clorox, and fill
> it with water.
>
> Portable carbon block filter: This has two uses. First, if the tap
> water smells it goes in right after the string filter. Also, when we
> back-flush the water maker, the carbon filter is inserted between the
> pressure water (usually our from our on-board pressure system) and the
> water maker.
>
> We have a 75' hose, a 50' hose and several other bits and pieces. All
> are ordinary garden hoses of one sort or another except he 50-footer,
> which is a food-grade hose (no taste imparted to the water). All of them
> and the two portable filters have click-on (Gardena, etc.) connectors,
> instead of the usual screw on ones. We also have three coil-hoses in
> strategic spots, used exclusively for their intended purpose, such as
> wash down (never added to the other hoses to fill the tanks).
>
> We also have a box of various tap adapters with click-on terminations,
> and a bunch of miscellaneous connectors, so that we can cut a piece of
> hose and make up an adapter as needed (not usually needed).
>
> M
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com
> [mailto:owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com] On Behalf Of Scott
> Strickland
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2002 22:28
> To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com
> Subject: TWL: Re: Dock hoses
>
> What are poeples experiences with filters on the garden hose used to
> fill
> the water tank?
> Should there be a carbon filter in line with the garden hose--which
> removes
> the chlorine, or should the carbon filter be added at the sink?
> Usually you would want to leave the chlorine in the tank.
>
> My tanks will be Fiberglass.
>
>
> Thanks for the idea about having spare pieces of hose ready to build
> Europe
> adapters.
> What sizes have people used in the Med?
> Do I really need the different sizes of hose 1/2", 5/8" and 3/4"?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:35:38 -0400
> From: "Charles Monroe" <chasmnro@bestweb.net>
> Subject: Re: TWL: Dock hoses
>
> Beware of using the cheap, yellow "quick disconnect" fittings. I
> fitted one on the nozzle end, connected my new nozzle, went over
> turned the water on, and ZOOM my nozzle flew about 20' out into the
> water. Damn nozzle didn't know how to swim either which was not
> really unique as I've found out that few tools know how. SOB!. 8^(
> Charles Monroe
> Ebb Tide, 1979 Marine Trader, 34', DC
> Pt. Patience Marina, Solomons, MD.
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: <GeorgGeist@aol.com>
> To: <scotts@advret.com>; <trawler-world-list@samurai.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 10:57 AM
> Subject: Re: TWL: Dock hoses
> <<< snip>>>
> Also you see more and more people having quick connect fittings on
> their hoses and attachments even
> thugh most marina outlets have standard screw-on taps.
> >>>snip>>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:19:34 -0400
> From: Bob McLeran <rmcleran@ix.netcom.com>
> Subject: Re: TWL: Dock hoses
>
> I've been using those yellow quick connect fittings for a number of
> years, at home as well as on Sanderling. I've only had them "fly off"
> when I didn't seat them properly - have to make sure they're pushed into
> the complimentary fitting as far as they will go, then try to pull them
> apart. If they won't pull apart by hand, they won't "fly off" when you
> turn on the water.
>
> Charles Monroe wrote:
> >
> > Beware of using the cheap, yellow "quick disconnect" fittings. I
> > fitted one on the nozzle end, connected my new nozzle, went over
> > turned the water on, and ZOOM my nozzle flew about 20' out into the
>
> - --
> Bob McLeran mailto://rmcleran@ix.netcom.com
> M/V "Sanderling" Docked at Point Patience Marina
> Hailing port: Wianno MA Solomons, MD
> Hampton 35 Trawler
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:23:04 -0400
> From: "hknott4@comcast.net" <hknott4@comcast.net>
> Subject: TWL: New style pressure water pump
>
> I remember a couple of comments about a new style of potable water system
pump. I think it was said to be quieter and va=
> ried it's speed depending on demand. Can someone give me a little more
info on this pump, including manufacturer, model =
> no. and maybe a catalogue reference?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - -Mel
>
> - --------------------------------------------------------------------
> mail2web - Check your email from the web at
> http://mail2web.com/ .
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:37:38 -0500
> From: Keith <klemmons@airmail.net>
> Subject: TWL: Dock Hoses
>
> Scott wrote: "What are poeples experiences with filters on the garden
> hose used to fill
> the water tank?
> Should there be a carbon filter in line with the garden hose--which
> removes
> the chlorine, or should the carbon filter be added at the sink?
> Usually you would want to leave the chlorine in the tank."
> ______________________
> We had a discussion on this awhile back. I personally think you should
> put a filter at the tap and leave the chlorine in the tank. That's what
> I do. I use a PUR filter at the kitchen sink tap, and it works great. If
> you have sediment from your dock water, you probably have other problems
> with it as well.
> - --
> __________________
> Keith
> AAAAAA: American Association Against Acronym Abuse and Ambiguity.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:40:35 -0500
> From: Keith <klemmons@airmail.net>
> Subject: TWL: Potable water filter
>
> Bob wrote: "The water is so soft, the first mate dislikes taking showers
> and washing
> her hair onboard because a soap scum/film always seems to remain. The
> water happens to be naturally soft - no "water softener" needed - and
> the marina's heads have the same problem. Otherwise, the water is fine -
> no odors or noticeably bad taste. "
> _______________________
> Bob, I think you've got it backwards. "Hard" water is what causes
> soap/scum film to remain. It's full of minerals. You need to "soften"
> the water with a water softener unit of some type. They use salt
> tablets, and can be found at most Sears stores or other hardware places.
> I've never had to mess with one, so I don't know about the availability
> of units that would be properly sized for the boat. You could also look
> in the yellow pages under water conditioning or something like that, or
> look up "Culligan" in the white pages. I think they're pretty much
> everywhere.
> - --
> __________________
> Keith
> Leaving the dock is optional. Returning is mandatory.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:45:47 -0500
> From: Keith <klemmons@airmail.net>
> Subject: TWL: Window tinting
>
> Bob and Vicki wrote: "We are interested in reducing the amount of heat
> and UV rays in our saloon.
> We drive the boat from there, so we do not want a tint, but rather a
> film of
> some sort that would do this. We would like it to be as "clear" as
> possible."
> ______________________________
> Kind of mutually exclusive. You can cut out some of the UV with window
> tinting films that contain UV screeners/inhibitors, but they won't do
> much to keep heat out. I have laminated, tinted glass in my PH from the
> factory, so I don't see any problem with using a tinting film on
> laminated glass. I imagine the warning was based on heating up the
> laminate, but hey... car windshields get plenty hot and don't
> delaminate. You could look for some screening film at Home Depot, or on
> the web. I would suggest you put it on just one window first, and see
> how it works and how your night vision is.
>
> Another option is to get the roll-down tint shades that the tugboats
> use. I'm looking into these right now, but don't have a price quote yet.
> http://metromarine.com/
> - --
> __________________
> Keith
> A good plan executed right now is far better than a perfect plan
> executed next week." - George S. Patton
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:49:30 -0500
> From: Keith <klemmons@airmail.net>
> Subject: TWL: Using computers in bright light
>
> Todd wrote: "I've been testing some different computer systems in my
> pilothouse to see
> how well they work with bright sunlight. I have found one that works
> well.
> But the expense - "Mother of Pearl!" as Robin would say. I'm wondering
> if
> anyone has tried this product on their boats:
>
> http://www.compushade.com/how.htm"
> ___________________________________________________
> I looked at those various products, and ended up making a couple myself
> from flat black craft board obtained at Office Depot. The board was
> about $3 plus some sticky velcro, and I have two foldable, stowable
> light shields. Even cut a piece to sit over the keyboard to stop
> reflected light from bouncing up on the monitor. I'll send anyone who's
> interested the cutting diagrams. It's a bit tricky and I learned after a
> couple of tries.
> - --
> __________________
> Keith
> A loser is a window washer on the 44th floor who steps back to admire
> his work..
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:53:58 -0500
> From: Keith <klemmons@airmail.net>
> Subject: TWL: Documentation Renewal
>
> Wayne wrote: Question to owners of USCG Documented Vessels: Have you
> sent in the renewal,
> but was later sent a letter, saying your renewal was not received and
> that
> you owed a $5.00 fee for processing a late renewal?
>
> We did. We had sent the renewal back immediately upon receiving the
> letter to
> renew the documentation. There were no changes, so I just signed and
> dated it
> and sent it back as required.
>
> We have now sent the late renewal in, with the $5.00 late fee, so
> supposedly
> all is well.
>
> I am curious if this is a "widespread problem" or if I am just unlucky
> to
> have the letter get lost somewhere.
> ______________________________________
> I just sent my two in. One was delivered right back to my PO Box. The
> darned form that the USCG is using now is really stupid. For those of
> you who haven't seen it, you fill out your information, fold and staple
> it, and mail it. Well, the USCG's address is on one side, and yours is
> on the other! Guess where the post office delivered mine? To my po box,
> on the opposite side from where the stamp was. I sure hope they figure
> this problem out and fix it soon. Also, the flimsy construction of this
> "mailer" probably lends itself to getting torn up by the machinery at
> the PO, what with thin paper, and staples or tape on it. Cheesy.
> - --
> __________________
> Keith
> "I'm not allowed to comment on lousy officiating."
> - -Jim Finks, New Orleans Saints G.M., when asked after a loss
> what he thought of the refs, 1986
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:02:38 -0500
> From: Keith <klemmons@airmail.net>
> Subject: TWL: Interim trawler
>
> Frank wrote: "However, it is a 15 Knot Delta where we live and just
> to get from Sacramento to Monterey is over 225 nautical miles. We could
> do
> such a weekend trip in something like a Mainship 390 or a Nordhavn
> Coastal
> Pilot (35 footer)."
> __________________________________
> Not a bad plan, but keep in mind boat value/depreciation. When I last
> ran the numbers, you pretty much had to keep a new boat for five years
> to make financial sense. That's about when the depreciation curve
> flattens out. If you're going to own a boat for less than three years,
> I'd try to buy one 3-8 years old or so. Too new, and you'll take a
> financial hit on the sale. Too old, and you'll be spending lots of money
> for upgrades/maintenance for the benefit of the new owner. Good luck!
> - --
> __________________
> Keith
> If at first you don't succeed, try management.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:18:44 -0400
> From: "Pisciotta, Peter P, RTLSL" <pisciotta@att.com>
> Subject: TWL: Shipping a boat to Hawaii???
>
> A friend with a PT 38 is moving to Hawaii. He has received some pretty =
> astronomical estimates for shipping it (up to $50K). Anyone have any =
> bright ideas on getting this beast across the Pacific?
>
> Thanks in advance-
>
> Peter
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:37:57 -0400
> From: Captain Al Pilvinis <yourcaptain@earthlink.net>
> Subject: TWL: Side deck awnings
>
> At 08:52 AM 4/24/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> >Thanks, Al. Simple, but elegant! Was it originally your design?
> >
> >Al, you may have also shared before the details of your side-deck
awnings.
> If so, would you share them again? I'm guessing that one edge is slid
> into a slotted track and they are rolled up and tied when not in use?
> Also, do you also have them over the front saloon windows?
> ========================================================
> Not my design on the puller Mel, it was copied from a commercial unit only
> made much cheaper.
> The Awnings have a little tab with a zipper that slides into a slot, so
> that I can zip the shades off instead of having to pull the whole rig out
> of the slot. They are also able to be rolled up when not in use and have
> tabs to hold them up. I have awnings for the front also. I'll see if I can
> find a good picture showing the front and side awnings. These are my
> design.........
> I hope you don't mind me putting this on the net for I had a lot of
> inquiries the last time I posted it, and now with summer coming I think a
> lot of people wish they had these coolers.
> .
> Captain Al Pilvinis
>
> "M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
> 2630 N.E. 41st Street
> Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
> Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
> Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net
> Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:36:18 EDT
> From: Albin43Tr@aol.com
> Subject: Re: TWL: Documentation Renewal - A Follow-up
>
> 'lo All,
>
> Just before I sent out the original email about this, I had called the 800
> number on the form. It is for a vary convoluted voice mail system. I was
on
> hold for about 10-15 minutes before I even got into the system (a good
reason
> to have a speaker phone). I gave them my phone number and problem.
>
> This morning, a very pleasant lady called, identifying herself as from the
> USCG Documentation Office. I told her what had happened; that I had sent
the
> renewal form in when I received it and that I had also sent the late form
in
> with the required $5.00. She informed me that they had been having quite a
> few complaints about the renewal forms not being delivered to the boat
owner
> as well as not getting the forms back even though the owners stated that
they
> had mailed them. I told her I knew that other folks had problems with
their
> system (thanks to the TWLers) and that the problem needed to be addressed.
> She said that she would relay my comments to her supervisors and that I
> should get the renewal certificate (or whatever it is) by next Wednesday.
>
> Apparently, a lot of folks were having problems with the little stickers
not
> sticking permanently to the documentation papers, which is why they went
to
> the new system. Heck, I couldn't even get the old ones off of the old
version
> of the documentation papers, so they just piled up about 1/4" thick. I
> haven't seen the new replacement for the stamp/sticker, so cannot comment
on
> it.
>
> Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised by the (?young?) lady's pleasantness
and
> candor. Nice to call Uncle Sam, leave a message, actually get called back,
> and the person calling back not be a self-important bureaucrat. She made a
> nice start for the day! :)
>
> Wayne
> M/V Celestial
> Albin 43 Sundeck
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:52:13 -0400
> From: Ron Rogers <rcrogers6@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: TWL: Documentation Renewal - A Follow-up
>
> It is my understanding that this process is administered by a contractor
for
> USCG. Hard to tell whether you got to a government employee or a
contractor.
> My experience is that most people in West Virginia are a pleasure to work
> with.
>
> Ron Rogers
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Albin43Tr@aol.com>
> To: <trawler-world-list@samurai.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: TWL: Documentation Renewal - A Follow-up
>
>
> > This morning, a very pleasant lady called, identifying herself as from
the
> > USCG Documentation Office. <SNIP>
>
> > Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised by the (?young?) lady's pleasantness
> and
> > candor. Nice to call Uncle Sam, leave a message, actually get called
back,
> > and the person calling back not be a self-important bureaucrat. She made
a
> > nice start for the day! :)
> >
> > Wayne
> > M/V Celestial
> > Albin 43 Sundeck
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:55:38 -0700
> From: "Jennifer Hamilton" <jenh@microsoft.com>
> Subject: RE: TWL: Thanks and a whole slew of new issues/watermakers
>
> I agree wholeheartedly with Bob. We are basically in the same situation-
> we are both working full-time and have limited vacation time, but would
> one day like to have an ocean-capable vessel. Our current boat is more
> than adequate for the coastal cruising that we do and being capable of
> 16-17 knots means that we can get places fast which is really important
> when you only have a limited amount of time to travel. We use the boat
> all year and have run more than a thousand hours in just over two years.
> I expect we wouldn't get nearly as much use out of it if our range was
> heavily restricted by travel time. And you will definitely learn a ton
> by owning any boat - everything from navigation to onboard systems to
> space requirements to what kind of cruising you like to do. So think
> hard about what will work for you now and then you can enjoy it know and
> start learning and planning for the future. But consider carefully your
> first purchase too, as you want to make sure that it will be comfortable
> enough (space, equipment, range, etc) for the kind of cruising you
> anticipate doing in the near future so that you enjoy it.
> =20
> Jennifer Hamilton
> M/V Dirona
> Seattle, WA
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Austin [mailto:thataway4@cox.net]=20
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:26 PM
> To: fxw@gwgi2010.com
> Cc: 1trawler world
> Subject: Re: TWL: Thanks and a whole slew of new issues/watermakers
>
> I think that you are wise to get experience in a smaller boat until you
> are
> ready for THE trip or retirement.
> My philosophy is to purchase a boat that does the job best for what you
> want
> to do currently. When taking long trips purchase the boat that is best
> for
> that--for local trips the boat that is best for that. You will learn a
> lot
> from any boat you own--and gain confidence. Perhaps your idea of what
> you
> want to do will change and you will learn more about the different types
> of
> boats.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:27:45 -0700
> From: Frank Osborne <Frank.Osborne@verizon.net>
> Subject: Fwd: TWL: New style pressure water pump
>
> >
> >I remember a couple of comments about a new style of potable water system
> >pump. I think it was said to be quieter and varied it's speed depending
> >on demand. Can someone give me a little more info on this pump,
including
> >manufacturer, model no. and maybe a catalogue reference?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >-Mel
>
> Mel,
> You are referring to the Jabsco Sensor-Max VSD,
> http://www.jabsco.com/sensormaxvsd.pdf. I just put one on our boat and
it's
> so quite you can not even tell it's running from anywhere except in the
> engine room where you can hear a soft purring sound. We got the model 17
> with 4.5 gpm and the water pressure is very strong and constant, no
> pulsing. No accumulator tank is needed because the variable speed motor
> changes speed to match the demand. The only downside to it is that with
the
> standard pumps, if you had a slow leak or someone left a faucet on, you
> would hear the pump cycling. With this pump you'd never hear it, it would
> just run at a very slow speed, forever. Ever since we had a fitting pop
off
> the bottom of a faucet and the pump tried to empty the entire contents of
> the water tanks, 360 gal, into the aft head cabinet, we try to remember to
> always turn the water pump off at the breaker before we leave the boat.
>
> Frank Osborne & Linda Penwarden
> 'Island Fever', 44 Defever
> http://www.OsborneConsulting.com/IslandFever/IslandFever_Main.htm
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:31:49 -0500
> From: "Robert Firehammer" <rsf@charter.net>
> Subject: TWL: waterproofing canvas
>
> Any suggestion as to the type of waterproofing spray I should use on my
> older canvas top and sidecurtains?
>
> Robert Firehammer
> NE Wisc
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:48:57 -0400
> From: "Bill Blackburn" <probe@binghamton.edu>
> Subject: TWL: Benmar autopilot electric clutch
>
> Dear Listees,
> I am trying to locate an electric clutch for a Benmar CS21 or CC220, Type
M
> Power Unit of late 1970's/early 1980's vintage. I checked with Benmar;
they
> don't have them. Anybody out there have or know of any old Benmar
take-outs
> or parts laying around? Thanks in advance for any leads.
> Regards,
> Bill
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:59:12 -0400
> From: Terry Hoy <THOY@TELE-CONNECT.COM>
> Subject: TWL: WhisperGen
>
> This is a follow-up to a thread from the beginning of the month. I =
> received
> this e-mail today. . 13 BU's seems steep for the size of the system.
> Spring Lake, MI is close to me so I may have a chance to visit them in =
> the
> near future
>
> Terry Hoy
>
> Victron Energy announces North american operations
>
>
> Chris Carli, Managing Director, Victron Energy B.V. =
> (www.victronenergy.com
> <http://www.victronenergy.com>) an international leader in the design =
> and
> manufacture of power supply=92s, chargers, inverters, combined chargers =
> and
> inverters, battery management controllers and instrumentation, etc.
> announces the opening of their North American Operations and the =
> appointment
> of 35-year industry veteran, Bob Kress as its General Manager. Bob=92s
> previous experience includes operations management, marketing, sales,
> product development and design with Charles Industries, Attwood =
> Corporation,
> LIPS Propellers, Michigan Wheel Corporation and the Defense Space =
> Division
> of Chrysler Corporation.=20
>
> Victron Energy=92s Worldwide Headquarters with some of its =
> manufacturing
> facilities are based in the Netherlands. Other manufacturing facilities =
> are
> located in India. Reinout Vader, Chairman of Victron Energy BV began =
> his
> entrepreneurial career in 1975 by starting Victron BV, while pursuing a
> graduate degree in physics. In 1980 he expanded his operations to =
> include
> design and manufacturing of UPS systems. This company soon became a =
> leading
> supplier of UPS systems to European and Asian banks. In 1996 Victron =
> merged
> with InvertoMatic of Switzerland, forming a new company IMV =
> (www.imv.com
> <http://www.imv.com>) at the same time Victron Energy became an =
> independent
> company by separating itself from IMV . In July of this year IMV was
> acquired by General Electric Digital Energy. Other sales offices of =
> Victron
> Energy are located in the UK, France, and now with the North American
> Operation located in the Great Lakes region, specifically Spring Lake =
> MI as
> Victron Energy pursues it=92s ambitious plans for continued growth.
>
> The North American Operation (www.victronenergy-USA.com
> <http://www.victronenergy-USA.com>) will be responsible for developing =
> new
> product and integrating these with other proven Victron Energy products =
> into
> customer driven marketable intelligent AC and DC systems. Voltage and
> frequency conversion equipment with integral isolation transformers, =
> network
> compatible microprocessor controlled chargers and inverters (standalone =
> or
> combined). In addition Victron offers micro co-generation systems =
> providing
> heat and power the WhisperGen. A demo installation is located at the =
> USA
> offices. This new office will serve the North American automotive, =
> specialty
> and heavy duty truck, recreational vehicle, industrial, marine, remote =
> site
> and alternative energy markets.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:03:50 -0400
> From: "John Gaquin" <jgaquin@earthlink.net>
> Subject: TWL: Re: Potable water filter
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith" <klemmons@airmail.net>
>
> > _______________________
> > Bob, I think you've got it backwards. "Hard" water is what causes
> > soap/scum film to remain.
>
> No, I know exactly what Bob means. Hard water will leave a mineral
buildup
> on your shower walls, but soft will make you feel "filmy". When you have
> very soft water, you can rinse til the cows come home, and you'll still
feel
> as if you've got a soap film on your skin. No "squeaky clean" feeling
from
> that shower, even though you are, in fact, quite clean. I grew up with
such
> a water supply (Boston), and never noticed it, until I joined the AF and
> went to a place that actually had some mineral content in the water.
Wow!!
> I could completely rinse in the shower in only 4 seconds!
>
> JG
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:03:08 -0400
> From: Captain Al Pilvinis <yourcaptain@earthlink.net>
> Subject: TWL: Side deck awnings and puller and why you should have one.
>
> Did you ever say to yourself I don't need that tool because I don't know
> how to use it or I don't need that propeller puller because I don't dive
> and don't have tanks.
>
> Think about it. If you are off in some secluded area and you need a
> propeller changed you might find a guy that could do it if you only had a
> puller. If you are anchored away from the world and you need an injector
> changed but you know you don't know how to do it, with a spare injector
and
> if you have the proper tools you may find someone mechanically inclined
who
> would change it for you. So the next time you say to yourself - I don't
> need that tool because I don't know how to use it, if you think it might
be
> important, take one along - there is someone out there that could probally
> do the job for you if only he had the right tools.
>
> The picture of the side deck and fore deck awnings is at the following
site:
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain/pix.html
>
> Stay cool.
> .
> Captain Al Pilvinis
>
> "M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
> 2630 N.E. 41st Street
> Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
> Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
> Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net
> Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:39:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mark Richter <Richter-Pooh@rocketmail.com>
> Subject: TWL: Re: Latex Paint
>
> For a less-than-yacht finish on boat topsides, I can
> highly recommend a two-part epoxy from Sherwin
> Williams called "Tile Clad HS". Susanne and I just
> completed a topsides repainting on Winnie the Pooh on
> Saturday. The Tile-Clad comes in glossy and
> "eggshell" finishes; we like the eggshell because it
> has great hiding power on less than perfect hulls. We
> roll the paint on thickly (it is a very thick
> paint)and don't tip. Two gallons did Pooh's topsides
> (46'), one coat with a quart left over.
>
> The only downside to this paint is that it chalks in
> sunlight, and will rub off on your skin or clothes, so
> don't use it where you will brush up against it. We
> paid $36/gal at a Sherwin Williams store in Stuart,
> FL.
>
> Mark
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more
> http://games.yahoo.com/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:05:13 -0400
> From: Captain Al Pilvinis <yourcaptain@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: TWL: Re: Latex Paint
>
> At 02:39 PM 4/24/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >For a less-than-yacht finish on boat topsides, I can
> >highly recommend a two-part epoxy from Sherwin
> >Williams called "Tile Clad HS". Susanne and I just
> >completed a topsides repainting on Winnie the Pooh on
> >Saturday. The Tile-Clad comes in glossy and
> >"eggshell" finishes; we like the eggshell because it
> >has great hiding power on less than perfect hulls. We
> >roll the paint on thickly (it is a very thick
> >paint)and don't tip. Two gallons did Pooh's topsides
> >(46'), one coat with a quart left over.
> >
> >The only downside to this paint is that it chalks in
> >sunlight, and will rub off on your skin or clothes, so
> >don't use it where you will brush up against it. We
> >paid $36/gal at a Sherwin Williams store in Stuart,
> >FL.
> >
> >Mark
> =========================================================
> Well done Mark.........Another upside to chalking paint or gel coat is you
> will not get those black rain streaks. This is why they put chalking paint
> on a house, self washing. If there is a spot where you come in contact,
> wash well and it may be a week or two before it starts chalking again. I
> let my gel coat chalk except where I rub against it. Always crisp and
> white, but the yachty hi gloss is missing.
> Works for me and I'm not wearing away the gel coat with compound and all
> that elbow grease.............
>
> .
> Captain Al Pilvinis
>
> "M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
> 2630 N.E. 41st Street
> Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
> Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
> Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net
> Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:47:10 -0400
> From: "Leonard Brunotte" <LB@myguardian.com>
> Subject: TWL: Overhead
>
> To All:
>
> We would sincerely appreciate material and fastening advice for a new
> headliner. We are replacing our overhead liner and would like to install
> fabric covered panels that have matching butt joints. Our questions are:
> 1) What type light weight thin material is used for the overhead panels.
> 2) What type of fastening system is used to mount the overhead panels.
> Again, all help will be truly appreciated.
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Len Brunotte
>
> Please Reply:
> email - lb@myguardian.com
> phone - 321-639-2743
> fax - 321-636-6377
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:17:32 -0400
> From: <awoods@surfbest.net>
> Subject: TWL: Re: Documentation Renewal
>
> > I just sent my two in. One was delivered right back to my PO Box. The
> > darned form that the USCG is using now is really stupid. For those of
> > you who haven't seen it, you fill out your information, fold and staple
> > it, and mail it. Well, the USCG's address is on one side, and yours is
> > on the other! Guess where the post office delivered mine? To my po box,
>
> I didn't like the way this form was working, so I stuffed it into a
properly
> addressed envelope!
>
> Andy & Linda Woods
> Grand Folly
> 1970 Grand Banks 36 Classic
> Georgetown, MD
> awoods@surfbest.net
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:57:52 -0400
> From: Peggy Carr <chesapklady@comcast.net>
> Subject: TWL: Re: Charts
>
> >>Has anyone any online links to charts for sale for the Pacific Northwest
> and on into Alaska. The local chart dealer here in San Diego charges me
$20
> a chart which I think is high.<<
>
> I've never actually tried these people, but the charts that I've found
here
> (that unfortunately I'd already bought elsewhere) were 10-15% less than
what
> I paid a couple of weeks ago.
> http://www.tidesend.com/
>
> Peggy Carr
> "Aqua Vitae"
> 1986 Albin 43
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:29:57 -0500
> From: "Bob Austin" <thataway4@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: TWL: Overhead
>
> There are a number of headliner materials. One of my favorites is a
closed
> cell PVC foam on some of the smaller boats as both a headliner and hull
> liner. This is about 1/8" in thickness and is very pliable and easily
> fastened with contact cements.
>
> My favorite way of putting headliners up is to put the fabric on 1/8"
"door
> skins--that have been cut to size, sealed then covered with the fabric of
> choice. Then the seams between the pannels is covered with a narrow (1/4"
x
> 1" wide) teak strip--that is screwed in place with SS screws. These
screws
> can be covered with teak plugs, but I feel it is best to leave the screw
> heads for easy access if the pannels have to be removed.
>
> With this techinique one can put a layer of insullation between the
> headliner and the actual cabin top.
>
> Defender has material that seems to be the same as the PVC I describe on
> page 58, item no. 753089
>
> There are a number of materials in Boat U S catalogue page 583.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob Austin
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:42:12 -0500
> From: "Bob Austin" <thataway4@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: TWL: Re: Charts
>
> One thing to remember that if you order these chart replications that they
> are xerographic copies that are in black and white. I have used some
copies
> of charts--but I use marking pens to color blue the edge of the deep
water,
> yellow for land, and red for rocks and obstructions.
>
> If you have friends who will loan you charts; U S NOOA charts are not
> copyrighted and can be coppied--this may not be true of chart books and
some
> other national charts. It is inexpensive to have an drafting copy
service
> make copies.
>
> I personally usually purchase chart books.
>
> However at times, I have had the good fortune to have a tug or ship give
me
> their old charts. These commercial vessels have to have the most recent
> version and will give away their old charts. These can be hand corrected
to
> the most recent Notice to Mariners. The rocks etc don't change. Buoys,
> breakwaters, docks etc do change--so use caution.
>
> Bob Austin
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:25:42 -0500
> From: "Bob Austin" <thataway4@cox.net>
> Subject: TWL: door skins
>
> I have had several inquiries as to what a "door skin is". Door skins are
> three laminate layer plywood 3mm or 1/8" thick. These are the size of a
> door and used to reface doors. 6'8" in height and anywhere from 2 to 3
feet
> in width. The wood is usually blemish free, the laminates are without
voids
> and glue is exterior glue. Many are Luan a Philipine mahagony--some are
> birch.
>
> I find that the smaller size is easier to work with than the 4x8 sheets of
> thin plywood--and less expensive.
>
> These also make good templates or "tic" boards for making bulkheads etc.
(a
> "tic" board uses lines, measurements and straight battens to outline an
> irregular shape such as a bulkhead).
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob Austin
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:41:15 -0700
> From: "Doug Barnard" <dbarnard@virtualacreage.com>
> Subject: TWL: RE: door skins
>
> > [mailto:owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com]On Behalf Of Bob Austin
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:26 PM
>
> > These also make good templates or "tic" boards for making
> > bulkheads etc. (a
> > "tic" board uses lines, measurements and straight battens to outline an
> > irregular shape such as a bulkhead).
>
> I look in back of bicycle shops for my pattern material. Am I cheap, or
> what! Also, you can use a razor point Pilot pen on cardboard to get a
> super-thin line.
>
> db
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of trawler-world-list V5 #300
> *********************************
>