Hello, A couple of days ago I wrote to ask you guy's start up questions for a Mac tower G4 unit, that is on a boat anchored behind my home. Many of you tried to help but nothing seemed to work so today they brought the computer ashore and I took them to an Apple factory service center. Sadly, they learned that the unit was not repairable due to power supply parts no longer being made. The couple asked me to check with this list to see if anybody had a used IMac they wished to sell. Thanks, Tommy

> Sadly, they learned that the unit was > not repairable due to power supply parts no longer being made. Check on eBay and/or ask the local Apple geeks and used computer shops. Changing a power supply is pretty simple to do and only involves a screwdriver to open the case an unscrew the tabs, then plugging in cables. An old PS is not worth more than few bucks and a lot of geeks would just give you one -- and maybe install it for free -- or a beer. This is all assuming the computer is otherwise worth saving.

Crap I had three of them and got tired of saving them so we tossed the in the trash, I am sorry to say. Tommy try Google for an answer of what you can substitute, it is just voltage and amps. David David A. Russo, asset manager ARC Commercial, Inc. PO Box 3313 Barrington, IL 60011 Main Line  (847) 426-0426 Direct Line (847) 426-5222 drusso@arccommercial.com -----Original Message----- From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com [mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of circumnavigate06 Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:54 PM To: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com Subject: GL: Mac's revisited Hello, A couple of days ago I wrote to ask you guy's start up questions for a Mac tower G4 unit, that is on a boat anchored behind my home. Many of you tried to help but nothing seemed to work so today they brought the computer ashore and I took them to an Apple factory service center. Sadly, they learned that the unit was not repairable due to power supply parts no longer being made. The couple asked me to check with this list to see if anybody had a used IMac they wished to sell. Thanks, Tommy _______________________________________________ http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:54 PM, circumnavigate06 wrote: > Hello, > > A couple of days ago I wrote to ask you guy's start up questions for a Mac tower > G4 unit, that is on a boat anchored behind my home. Many of you tried to help > but nothing seemed to work so today they brought the computer ashore and I took > them to an Apple factory service center. Sadly, they learned that the unit was > not repairable due to power supply parts no longer being made. > > The couple asked me to check with this list to see if anybody had a used IMac > they wished to sell. > > Thanks, > Tommy Check ebay. I assume they want a used computer rather than new because of their legacy applications and files created on the old G4 Power PC processor. Macs running Leopard (OS 10.5.xxx), and Snow Leopard (OS 10.6.xxx), the OS before the current one (Lion 10.7.xxx), can run applications and open documents created on a Power PC processor once a free program called Rosetta is installed. My Snow Leopard (10.6.xxx) Mini runs on an Intel processor, but had no problem opening my files created on Tiger (OS 10.4.xxx Power PC), and even earlier operating systems. All my PPC applications run just fine on Snow Leopard. Lion. not so much Is there another reason why they would want a used computer rather than a brand new one? The Mac Minis are cheap, small, and super fast. I think they could revert to the earlier Snow Leopard OS even on a new computer (I'm not positive of this. They should check with the Apple Store.) The Snow Leopard OS only costs $29 and is easy to install. That way they could have brand new hardware, and still access their legacy files (if it is in fact possible to retro install Snow Leopard on a brand new machine). rgf

If your friends do consider buying a computer with Snow Leopard, there is apparently an issue with an update from Apple: http://www.macrumors.com/2012/02/03/snow-leopard-security-update-kills-powerpc-apps-using-rosetta/ This will prevent Snow Leopard from running PPC applications, apparently. They should not install this upgrade, or buy a computer with one installed, until Apple sorts this out. Unfortunately Apple seems to be following a planned obsolescence policy probably because they do not want to devote the resources to backwards compatibility. This is really screwing some of their long time users. I've got years of documents created on Apple's Appleworks that I wouldn't be able to open if I install the update. Moral of story I guess: don't use Apple's proprietary software. On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Robert Foster wrote:3 > > On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:54 PM, circumnavigate06 wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> A couple of days ago I wrote to ask you guy's start up questions for a Mac tower >> G4 unit, that is on a boat anchored behind my home. Many of you tried to help >> but nothing seemed to work so today they brought the computer ashore and I took >> them to an Apple factory service center. Sadly, they learned that the unit was >> not repairable due to power supply parts no longer being made. >> >> The couple asked me to check with this list to see if anybody had a used IMac >> they wished to sell. >> >> Thanks, >> Tommy > > Check ebay. > > I assume they want a used computer rather than new because of their legacy applications and files created on the old G4 Power PC processor. Macs running Leopard (OS 10.5.xxx), and Snow Leopard (OS 10.6.xxx), the OS before the current one (Lion 10.7.xxx), can run applications and open documents created on a Power PC processor once a free program called Rosetta is installed. My Snow Leopard (10.6.xxx) Mini runs on an Intel processor, but had no problem opening my files created on Tiger (OS 10.4.xxx Power PC), and even earlier operating systems. All my PPC applications run just fine on Snow Leopard. Lion. not so much > > Is there another reason why they would want a used computer rather than a brand new one? The Mac Minis are cheap, small, and super fast. I think they could revert to the earlier Snow Leopard OS even on a new computer (I'm not positive of this. They should check with the Apple Store.) The Snow Leopard OS only costs $29 and is easy to install. That way they could have brand new hardware, and still access their legacy files (if it is in fact possible to retro install Snow Leopard on a brand new machine). > > rgf > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com