Thanks for responding.  I guess steam is not want I want.  I have a     

Thanks...bob

On 11/18/2013 11:38 PM, fred@tug44.org       wrote:
     Bob,

    I can tell you a bit about wood-fired steam engines, including      

    http://www.tug44.org/waterford.tugboat.roundup/steamboat-meet/

    And my friend Capt Bill has one too:

    http://www.tug44.org/tugboats.trawlers/african-queen/

    Most small steam engines are 2-cylinder.  The steam goes to the     
first cylinder and as it gets exhausted it goes to a larger         

    They still burn a ridiculous amount of fuel, but they do give       

    The engines all run almost completely silent.  Just a little        

    Fred
    Tug 44

    Greetings all,
    Sort of fishing here. Does anyone know anything about old steam     
powered 
    or 1 lung diesel powered boats, 38 to 40ish feet in length?         

    Thanks...bob

There are a number of old slow running engines in active duty on the NY Canals. Tug Urger, the prettiest of them all, runs at around 300 rpm. Though her 20 ton engine produces only about 300 HP. http://www.tug44.org/canal.corp.boats/tug-urger/ Come to the tugboat Roundup in Waterford next September and you'll see several like that. Fred Tug 44 ---------------------------------------- From: "bob" <relder@cape.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:13 AM To: fred@tug44.org, great-loop@lists.trawlering.com Subject: Re: GL: old 1 lung steam or diesel boats Hi Fred, Thanks for responding. I guess steam is not want I want. I have a CD of old engine sounds, and with slight variations, they sound like donk--donk-donk--donk--donk when they run. Probably just a dream, but I would love to do the loop with an old boat with one of those old slow running engines. Anyway, sort of dreaming and fishing for info. Probably diesel I am looking for. Thanks...bob On 11/18/2013 11:38 PM, fred@tug44.org wrote: Bob, I can tell you a bit about wood-fired steam engines, including that they use a tremendous amount of fuel. A few years ago I had 20 small steamers overnighting at my docks. I got them two dump trucks full of firewood, and it only powered them for a day or two down the canal. An unfinished page from that day: http://www.tug44.org/waterford.tugboat.roundup/steamboat-meet/ And my friend Capt Bill has one too: http://www.tug44.org/tugboats.trawlers/african-queen/ Most small steam engines are 2-cylinder. The steam goes to the first cylinder and as it gets exhausted it goes to a larger cylinder which uses up the left over power in the steam. That 2nd cylinder is larger because the steam it receives is cooler and not as high pressure. This arrangement increases efficiency. They still burn a ridiculous amount of fuel, but they do give the advantage that you can cook your food right inside the firebox. The engines all run almost completely silent. Just a little mechanical clatter is all you hear. And you feel the heat from the boiler. Fred Tug 44 ---------------------------------------- From: "bob" <relder@cape.com> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:03 PM To: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com Subject: GL: old 1 lung steam or diesel boats Greetings all, Sort of fishing here. Does anyone know anything about old steam powered or 1 lung diesel powered boats, 38 to 40ish feet in length? Fishing for info about doing the loop in a 1 lung boat. Thanks...bob

Thanks for responding.  I guess steam is not want I want.  I have a     

Thanks...bob

On 11/18/2013 11:38 PM, fred@tug44.org       wrote:
     Bob,

    I can tell you a bit about wood-fired steam engines, including      

    http://www.tug44.org/waterford.tugboat.roundup/steamboat-meet/

    And my friend Capt Bill has one too:

    http://www.tug44.org/tugboats.trawlers/african-queen/

    Most small steam engines are 2-cylinder.  The steam goes to the     
first cylinder and as it gets exhausted it goes to a larger         

    They still burn a ridiculous amount of fuel, but they do give       

    The engines all run almost completely silent.  Just a little        

    Fred
    Tug 44

    Greetings all,
    Sort of fishing here. Does anyone know anything about old steam     
powered 
    or 1 lung diesel powered boats, 38 to 40ish feet in length?         

    Thanks...bob

Fred I love that you reply with not just words but pictures! Awesome! Elaine On Nov 19, 2013, at 11:51 AM, fred@tug44.org wrote: > There are a number of old slow running engines in active duty on the NY > Canals. Tug Urger, the prettiest of them all, runs at around 300 rpm. > Though her 20 ton engine produces only about 300 HP. > > http://www.tug44.org/canal.corp.boats/tug-urger/ > > Come to the tugboat Roundup in Waterford next September and you'll see > several like that. > > Fred > Tug 44 > > ---------------------------------------- > From: "bob" <relder@cape.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:13 AM > To: fred@tug44.org, great-loop@lists.trawlering.com > Subject: Re: GL: old 1 lung steam or diesel boats > > Hi Fred, > > Thanks for responding. I guess steam is not want I want. I have a > CD of old engine sounds, and with slight variations, they sound like > donk--donk-donk--donk--donk when they run. Probably just a dream, but > I would love to do the loop with an old boat with one of those old slow > running engines. Anyway, sort of dreaming and fishing for info. > Probably diesel I am looking for. > > Thanks...bob > > On 11/18/2013 11:38 PM, fred@tug44.org wrote: > Bob, > > I can tell you a bit about wood-fired steam engines, including > that they use a tremendous amount of fuel. A few years ago I > had 20 small steamers overnighting at my docks. I got them two > dump trucks full of firewood, and it only powered them for a day or > two down the canal. An unfinished page from that day: > > http://www.tug44.org/waterford.tugboat.roundup/steamboat-meet/ > > And my friend Capt Bill has one too: > > http://www.tug44.org/tugboats.trawlers/african-queen/ > > Most small steam engines are 2-cylinder. The steam goes to the > first cylinder and as it gets exhausted it goes to a larger > cylinder which uses up the left over power in the steam. That 2nd > cylinder is larger because the steam it receives is cooler and not > as high pressure. This arrangement increases efficiency. > > They still burn a ridiculous amount of fuel, but they do give > the advantage that you can cook your food right inside the > firebox. > > The engines all run almost completely silent. Just a little > mechanical clatter is all you hear. And you feel the heat from > the boiler. > > Fred > Tug 44 > > ---------------------------------------- > From: "bob" <relder@cape.com> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:03 PM > To: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com > Subject: GL: old 1 lung steam or diesel boats > > Greetings all, > Sort of fishing here. Does anyone know anything about old steam > powered > or 1 lung diesel powered boats, 38 to 40ish feet in length? > Fishing for > info about doing the loop in a 1 lung boat. > > Thanks...bob > > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

I worked on two wooden tugs when I was young (early 20's). The ML Wescoat http://tinyurl.com/4f5rqrc Length 47.2 ft long Width 13ft Engine: 500 hp Year Built: 1943 Built At Riverside NJ Builder: Dredge Harbor & Yacht Home Port: Atlantic City NJ And the other one was the AC Wescoat which was built in the 1920's http://tinyurl.com/mqvcmh2 Note the second picture is a very unusual situation in towing: One tug (ML Wescoat ) towing a barge while ALSO towing the AC Wescoat who is also towing a barge ! Each tug had a coal stove on board and all winter long we had to ensure it never went out. R. Our blog is http://www.SayGood-Bye.com Youtube channel for the videos www.youtube.com/user/ralphyost1 Say Good-Bye 41 Defever On Nov 19, 2013, at 11:51 AM, fred@tug44.org wrote: > There are a number of old slow running engines in active duty on the > NY Canals. Tug Urger, the prettiest of them all, runs at around 300 rpm. > Though her 20 ton engine produces only about 300 HP. > > http://www.tug44.org/canal.corp.boats/tug-urger/ > > Come to the tugboat Roundup in Waterford next September and you'll see > several like that. > > Fred > Tug 44