BF
Bill Fleenor
Fri, Oct 19, 2007 2:56 AM
John Wrote: I like what you are doing. Any chance of sharing what she will
cost? Or what
you think it should cost?
I would strongly suggest you look at http://www.pacificexpedition.com/
That is the natural progression that is going on with my boat builder.
Not sure I would share my price with you, but he'll certainly tell you what
another one would cost.
Bill Fleenor
Double-Wide
John Wrote: I like what you are doing. Any chance of sharing what she will
cost? Or what
you think it should cost?
I would strongly suggest you look at http://www.pacificexpedition.com/
That is the natural progression that is going on with my boat builder.
Not sure I would share my price with you, but he'll certainly tell you what
another one would cost.
Bill Fleenor
Double-Wide
CT
Craig Tomash
Fri, Oct 19, 2007 5:10 AM
Bill:
What ever happened to the original builder (forgot his name) but he started
his trawler cat project in China, boat was launched but did not get
anywhere, then he set up shop in Eastern Canada and then in PNW and started
production on DoubleWide?????
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fleenor" wefleenor@ucdavis.edu
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:56 PM
Subject: [PCW] Double-Wide
John Wrote: I like what you are doing. Any chance of sharing what she
will
cost? Or what
you think it should cost?
I would strongly suggest you look at http://www.pacificexpedition.com/
That is the natural progression that is going on with my boat builder.
Not sure I would share my price with you, but he'll certainly tell you
what
another one would cost.
Bill Fleenor
Double-Wide
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Bill:
What ever happened to the original builder (forgot his name) but he started
his trawler cat project in China, boat was launched but did not get
anywhere, then he set up shop in Eastern Canada and then in PNW and started
production on DoubleWide?????
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fleenor" <wefleenor@ucdavis.edu>
To: <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:56 PM
Subject: [PCW] Double-Wide
> John Wrote: I like what you are doing. Any chance of sharing what she
> will
> cost? Or what
> you think it should cost?
>
>
>
>
>
> I would strongly suggest you look at http://www.pacificexpedition.com/
>
> That is the natural progression that is going on with my boat builder.
>
>
>
> Not sure I would share my price with you, but he'll certainly tell you
> what
> another one would cost.
>
>
>
> Bill Fleenor
>
> Double-Wide
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> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
GK
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Fri, Oct 19, 2007 3:25 PM
What ever happened to the original builder (forgot his name) but he started
his trawler cat project in China, boat was launched but did not get
anywhere, then he set up shop in Eastern Canada and then in PNW and started
production on DoubleWide?????
>What ever happened to the original builder (forgot his name) but he started
>his trawler cat project in China, boat was launched but did not get
>anywhere, then he set up shop in Eastern Canada and then in PNW and started
>production on DoubleWide?????
Looks like Graham Pfister is back in Canada, as per the TrawlerCat Marine site:
http://www.trawlercatmarine.com/
--Georgs
CT
Craig Tomash
Fri, Oct 19, 2007 10:12 PM
I was curious if TCM was still around as Bill Fleenor wrote:
"Double-Wide started out as a joint-venture by TCM and Pacific Coast Boats,
but TCM backed out about half-way through. Fortunately, Pacific Coast Boats
stuck by me to finish the boat"
Interesting ??????
----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgs Kolesnikovs" georgs@powercatamaranworld.com
To: "Power Catamaran List" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [PCW] Double-Wide
What ever happened to the original builder (forgot his name) but he
started
his trawler cat project in China, boat was launched but did not get
anywhere, then he set up shop in Eastern Canada and then in PNW and
started
production on DoubleWide?????
I was curious if TCM was still around as Bill Fleenor wrote:
"Double-Wide started out as a joint-venture by TCM and Pacific Coast Boats,
but TCM backed out about half-way through. Fortunately, Pacific Coast Boats
stuck by me to finish the boat"
Interesting ??????
----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgs Kolesnikovs" <georgs@powercatamaranworld.com>
To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [PCW] Double-Wide
> >What ever happened to the original builder (forgot his name) but he
> >started
>>his trawler cat project in China, boat was launched but did not get
>>anywhere, then he set up shop in Eastern Canada and then in PNW and
>>started
>>production on DoubleWide?????
>
> Looks like Graham Pfister is back in Canada, as per the TrawlerCat Marine
> site:
>
> http://www.trawlercatmarine.com/
>
> --Georgs
> _______________________________________________
> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
GK
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Sat, Oct 20, 2007 2:14 PM
Incidentally, there is a larger trawler cat nearing completion at
Pacific Expedition Yachts where Double-Wide will be launched soon.
John Shaw is also building a 65-foot expedition catamaran.
Particulars are available at:
http://www.pacificexpedition.com/index.html
John, who is an experienced builder, tells me he believes there is a
market for go-anywhere power cats that deliver comfort and
convenience on a wide, stable platform.
--Georgs
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
Incidentally, there is a larger trawler cat nearing completion at
Pacific Expedition Yachts where Double-Wide will be launched soon.
John Shaw is also building a 65-foot expedition catamaran.
Particulars are available at:
http://www.pacificexpedition.com/index.html
John, who is an experienced builder, tells me he believes there is a
market for go-anywhere power cats that deliver comfort and
convenience on a wide, stable platform.
--Georgs
--
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
GR
gram rupert
Sun, Oct 21, 2007 10:59 AM
Hi Georgs,
great site. No mention at all of prices though (not even in the FAQ
section).
r.
On 20 Oct 2007, at 15:14, Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
Incidentally, there is a larger trawler cat nearing completion at
Pacific Expedition Yachts where Double-Wide will be launched soon.
John Shaw is also building a 65-foot expedition catamaran.
Particulars are available at:
http://www.pacificexpedition.com/index.html
John, who is an experienced builder, tells me he believes there is a
market for go-anywhere power cats that deliver comfort and
convenience on a wide, stable platform.
--Georgs
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Hi Georgs,
great site. No mention at all of prices though (not even in the FAQ
section).
r.
On 20 Oct 2007, at 15:14, Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
> Incidentally, there is a larger trawler cat nearing completion at
> Pacific Expedition Yachts where Double-Wide will be launched soon.
>
> John Shaw is also building a 65-foot expedition catamaran.
> Particulars are available at:
>
> http://www.pacificexpedition.com/index.html
>
> John, who is an experienced builder, tells me he believes there is a
> market for go-anywhere power cats that deliver comfort and
> convenience on a wide, stable platform.
>
> --Georgs
> --
> Georgs Kolesnikovs
> Power Catamaran World
> http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
> _______________________________________________
> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
GK
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Sun, Oct 21, 2007 2:28 PM
For a ballpark minimum, try $10 to $15 per pound of displacement.
--Georgs
great site. No mention at all of prices though (not even in the FAQ
section).
r.
On 20 Oct 2007, at 15:14, Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
Incidentally, there is a larger trawler cat nearing completion at
Pacific Expedition Yachts where Double-Wide will be launched soon.
John Shaw is also building a 65-foot expedition catamaran.
Particulars are available at:
http://www.pacificexpedition.com/index.html
John, who is an experienced builder, tells me he believes there is a
market for go-anywhere power cats that deliver comfort and
convenience on a wide, stable platform.
--Georgs
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
For a ballpark minimum, try $10 to $15 per pound of displacement.
--Georgs
>great site. No mention at all of prices though (not even in the FAQ
>section).
>r.
>
>On 20 Oct 2007, at 15:14, Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
>
>> Incidentally, there is a larger trawler cat nearing completion at
>> Pacific Expedition Yachts where Double-Wide will be launched soon.
>>
>> John Shaw is also building a 65-foot expedition catamaran.
>> Particulars are available at:
>>
> > http://www.pacificexpedition.com/index.html
>>
>> John, who is an experienced builder, tells me he believes there is a
>> market for go-anywhere power cats that deliver comfort and
>> convenience on a wide, stable platform.
>>
>> --Georgs
>> --
>> Georgs Kolesnikovs
>> Power Catamaran World
>> http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
>_______________________________________________
>Power-Catamaran Mailing List
GR
gram rupert
Sun, Oct 21, 2007 4:33 PM
There is a substantial difference between 10 and 15 multiplied by
48,000.
r.
On 21 Oct 2007, at 15:28, Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
For a ballpark minimum, try $10 to $15 per pound of displacement.
--Georgs
great site. No mention at all of prices though (not even in the FAQ
section).
r.
On 20 Oct 2007, at 15:14, Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
Incidentally, there is a larger trawler cat nearing completion at
Pacific Expedition Yachts where Double-Wide will be launched soon.
John Shaw is also building a 65-foot expedition catamaran.
Particulars are available at:
http://www.pacificexpedition.com/index.html
John, who is an experienced builder, tells me he believes there
is a
market for go-anywhere power cats that deliver comfort and
convenience on a wide, stable platform.
--Georgs
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
There is a substantial difference between 10 and 15 multiplied by
48,000.
r.
On 21 Oct 2007, at 15:28, Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
> For a ballpark minimum, try $10 to $15 per pound of displacement.
>
> --Georgs
>
>> great site. No mention at all of prices though (not even in the FAQ
>> section).
>> r.
>>
>> On 20 Oct 2007, at 15:14, Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
>>
>>> Incidentally, there is a larger trawler cat nearing completion at
>>> Pacific Expedition Yachts where Double-Wide will be launched soon.
>>>
>>> John Shaw is also building a 65-foot expedition catamaran.
>>> Particulars are available at:
>>>
>>> http://www.pacificexpedition.com/index.html
>>>
>>> John, who is an experienced builder, tells me he believes there
>>> is a
>>> market for go-anywhere power cats that deliver comfort and
>>> convenience on a wide, stable platform.
>>>
>>> --Georgs
>>> --
>>> Georgs Kolesnikovs
>>> Power Catamaran World
>>> http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
>> _______________________________________________
>> Power-Catamaran Mailing List
> _______________________________________________
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MT
Malcolm Tennant
Sun, Oct 21, 2007 10:53 PM
Dear Gram Rupert,
You do have a valid point concerning the price variation based on Georgs
estimate, especially as the 48,000lb is light ship and there is a deadweight
of at least 3 to 5,000lb still to come for full load displacement. Were you
using light ship or full load displacement for your 10 to 15$ per lb
guesstimate Georgs? I know that that sort of estimate is one of those "how
long is a piece of string" questions. But I would be interested to know , is
it a reasonably accurate estimate of costs in the USA?
regards,
Malcolm Tennant. ARINA MA
MALCOLM TENNANT MULTIHULL DESIGN LTD
PO Box 60513, Titirangi.
Waitakere 0642
NEW ZEALAND
Ph: +64 9 817 1988
e-mail: malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz
www.tennantdesign.co.nz
www.catdesigners.com
Dear Gram Rupert,
You do have a valid point concerning the price variation based on Georgs
estimate, especially as the 48,000lb is light ship and there is a deadweight
of at least 3 to 5,000lb still to come for full load displacement. Were you
using light ship or full load displacement for your 10 to 15$ per lb
guesstimate Georgs? I know that that sort of estimate is one of those "how
long is a piece of string" questions. But I would be interested to know , is
it a reasonably accurate estimate of costs in the USA?
regards,
Malcolm Tennant. ARINA MA
MALCOLM TENNANT MULTIHULL DESIGN LTD
PO Box 60513, Titirangi.
Waitakere 0642
NEW ZEALAND
Ph: +64 9 817 1988
e-mail: malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz
www.tennantdesign.co.nz
www.catdesigners.com
TA
Tim Askins
Mon, Oct 22, 2007 12:59 AM
There's also a substantial deference between the cost of a Jabsoc electric
head @ $500 builder cost and
a top of the line head hunter jet toilet @ $1600 builder cost. Now let's
figure that spread on the 1000's of bits and pieces that have to be selected
for a typ. 48,000 lb displacement boat.
To Malcolm's question: I'd be willing to guess it's closer to $20/lb US for a
fully found custom boat.
Best Regards,
Tim A
power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: Re: [PCW] Double-Wide> > There is
a substantial difference between 10 and 15 multiplied by > 48,000.> r.> On 21
Oct 2007, at 15:28, Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:> > > For a ballpark minimum, try
$10 to $15 per pound of displacement.> >> > --Georgs> >> >> great site. No
mention at all of prices though (not even in the FAQ> >> section).> >> r.> >>>
On 20 Oct 2007, at 15:14, Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:> >>> >>> Incidentally,
there is a larger trawler cat nearing completion at> >>> Pacific Expedition
Yachts where Double-Wide will be launched soon.> >>>> >>> John Shaw is also
building a 65-foot expedition catamaran.> >>> Particulars are available at:>
experienced builder, tells me he believes there > >>> is a> >>> market for
go-anywhere power cats that deliver comfort and> >>> convenience on a wide,
stable platform.> >>>> >>> --Georgs> >>> --> >>> Georgs Kolesnikovs> >>> Power
Catamaran World> >>> http://www.powercatamaranworld.com> >>>
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List> >> _______________________________________________> >> Power-Catamaran
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There's also a substantial deference between the cost of a Jabsoc electric
head @ $500 builder cost and
a top of the line head hunter jet toilet @ $1600 builder cost. Now let's
figure that spread on the 1000's of bits and pieces that have to be selected
for a typ. 48,000 lb displacement boat.
To Malcolm's question: I'd be willing to guess it's closer to $20/lb US for a
fully found custom boat.
Best Regards,
Tim A
> From: gramario@tin.it> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:33:26 +0100> To:
power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Subject: Re: [PCW] Double-Wide> > There is
a substantial difference between 10 and 15 multiplied by > 48,000.> r.> On 21
Oct 2007, at 15:28, Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:> > > For a ballpark minimum, try
$10 to $15 per pound of displacement.> >> > --Georgs> >> >> great site. No
mention at all of prices though (not even in the FAQ> >> section).> >> r.> >>>
>> On 20 Oct 2007, at 15:14, Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:> >>> >>> Incidentally,
there is a larger trawler cat nearing completion at> >>> Pacific Expedition
Yachts where Double-Wide will be launched soon.> >>>> >>> John Shaw is also
building a 65-foot expedition catamaran.> >>> Particulars are available at:>
>>>> >>> http://www.pacificexpedition.com/index.html> >>>> >>> John, who is an
experienced builder, tells me he believes there > >>> is a> >>> market for
go-anywhere power cats that deliver comfort and> >>> convenience on a wide,
stable platform.> >>>> >>> --Georgs> >>> --> >>> Georgs Kolesnikovs> >>> Power
Catamaran World> >>> http://www.powercatamaranworld.com> >>>
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