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J. Forster

Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:09 PM

Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it.

-John

============

I was surprised to see how late it was before the first wired
transatlantic phone call was made: 1956 ($12/3 minutes, 36 lines
available). the first Telstar call wasn't that much later in 1962.

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Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it. -John ============ > I was surprised to see how late it was before the first *wired* > transatlantic phone call was made: 1956 ($12/3 minutes, 36 lines > available). the first Telstar call wasn't that much later in 1962. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > >

MD

Magnus Danielson

Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:16 PM

On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote:

Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it.

Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice
fold-outs on control-panels etc.

They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna
setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit.

Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like that.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote: > Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it. Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice fold-outs on control-panels etc. They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit. Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like that. Cheers, Magnus

DL

Don Latham

Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:50 PM

And an Astounding Science Fiction novella --the trouble with telstar--
Don

----- Original Message -----
From: "Magnus Danielson" magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver

On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote:

Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it.

Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice
fold-outs on control-panels etc.

They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna
setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit.

Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like
that.

Cheers,
Magnus

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And an Astounding Science Fiction novella --the trouble with telstar-- Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Magnus Danielson" <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> To: <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver > On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote: >> Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it. > > Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice > fold-outs on control-panels etc. > > They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna > setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit. > > Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like > that. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

PK

Piotr Kolodziejczyk

Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:32 PM

Could you tell me which book you have on mind ? I'd love to read the story.

I visited Telstar ground station in Pleumeur-Bodou, France once. There
is museum
there now, called "Cite des Telecoms". They preserved original
horn-like antenna
used for Telstar communication and lots of original equipment. If I remember
correctly there is even old hydrogen maser displayed.
Place worth seeing.

BR,
Piotr, sp3ukk

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Magnus Danielson
magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote:

On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote:

Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it.

Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice
fold-outs on control-panels etc.

They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna
setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit.

Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like that.

Cheers,
Magnus

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Could you tell me which book you have on mind ? I'd love to read the story. I visited Telstar ground station in Pleumeur-Bodou, France once. There is museum there now, called "Cite des Telecoms". They preserved original horn-like antenna used for Telstar communication and lots of original equipment. If I remember correctly there is even old hydrogen maser displayed. Place worth seeing. BR, Piotr, sp3ukk On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Magnus Danielson <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: > On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote: >> >> Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it. > > Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice > fold-outs on control-panels etc. > > They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna > setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit. > > Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like that. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

JF

J. Forster

Thu, Oct 7, 2010 10:02 PM

There was / is? a ground station near Andover Massachusetts also. The
antenna was called a Hogg Horn.

-John

===============

Could you tell me which book you have on mind ? I'd love to read the
story.

I visited Telstar ground station in Pleumeur-Bodou, France once. There
is museum
there now, called "Cite des Telecoms". They preserved original
horn-like antenna
used for Telstar communication and lots of original equipment. If I
remember
correctly there is even old hydrogen maser displayed.
Place worth seeing.

BR,
Piotr, sp3ukk

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Magnus Danielson
magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote:

On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote:

Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it.

Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice
fold-outs on control-panels etc.

They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna
setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit.

Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like
that.

Cheers,
Magnus

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There was / is? a ground station near Andover Massachusetts also. The antenna was called a Hogg Horn. -John =============== > Could you tell me which book you have on mind ? I'd love to read the > story. > > I visited Telstar ground station in Pleumeur-Bodou, France once. There > is museum > there now, called "Cite des Telecoms". They preserved original > horn-like antenna > used for Telstar communication and lots of original equipment. If I > remember > correctly there is even old hydrogen maser displayed. > Place worth seeing. > > BR, > Piotr, sp3ukk > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Magnus Danielson > <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: >> On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote: >>> >>> Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it. >> >> Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice >> fold-outs on control-panels etc. >> >> They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna >> setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit. >> >> Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like >> that. >> >> Cheers, >> Magnus >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > >

AM

Alan Melia

Thu, Oct 7, 2010 10:32 PM

Hi Magnus its was a pity they didn't manage to communicate with some of my
office collegues so as to to confirm the "hand" of the polarisation they
were using though :-)) Goodhilly changed the feed for the other polarisation
on the day of the first test, and it was a bit of a TV disaster. Lanion had
a horn so had the same sytem. The horns are long gone except for the
microwave background experiment but the Goonhilly Down dish called "Arthur"
after a certain medieval king who spent his time whopping Danes :-)) I dont
think the dish still carries traffic but it is capable, fully steerables are
not needed for telecoms now. Arthur is now a "historic monument" so we do
get some things right !!

Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Magnus Danielson" magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver

On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote:

Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it.

Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice
fold-outs on control-panels etc.

They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna
setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit.

Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like

that.

Cheers,
Magnus

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Hi Magnus its was a pity they didn't manage to communicate with some of my office collegues so as to to confirm the "hand" of the polarisation they were using though :-)) Goodhilly changed the feed for the other polarisation on the day of the first test, and it was a bit of a TV disaster. Lanion had a horn so had the same sytem. The horns are long gone except for the microwave background experiment but the Goonhilly Down dish called "Arthur" after a certain medieval king who spent his time whopping Danes :-)) I dont think the dish still carries traffic but it is capable, fully steerables are not needed for telecoms now. Arthur is now a "historic monument" so we do get some things right !! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Magnus Danielson" <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> To: <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver > On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote: > > Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it. > > Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice > fold-outs on control-panels etc. > > They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna > setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit. > > Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like that. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

PS

paul swed

Thu, Oct 7, 2010 10:52 PM

Long long gone completely though I think a plack is there. It was on
chronicle several years ago.

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 6:02 PM, J. Forster jfor@quik.com wrote:

There was / is? a ground station near Andover Massachusetts also. The
antenna was called a Hogg Horn.

-John

===============

Could you tell me which book you have on mind ? I'd love to read the
story.

I visited Telstar ground station in Pleumeur-Bodou, France once. There
is museum
there now, called "Cite des Telecoms". They preserved original
horn-like antenna
used for Telstar communication and lots of original equipment. If I
remember
correctly there is even old hydrogen maser displayed.
Place worth seeing.

BR,
Piotr, sp3ukk

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Magnus Danielson
magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote:

On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote:

Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it.

Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice
fold-outs on control-panels etc.

They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna
setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit.

Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like
that.

Cheers,
Magnus

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Long long gone completely though I think a plack is there. It was on chronicle several years ago. On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 6:02 PM, J. Forster <jfor@quik.com> wrote: > There was / is? a ground station near Andover Massachusetts also. The > antenna was called a Hogg Horn. > > -John > > =============== > > > Could you tell me which book you have on mind ? I'd love to read the > > story. > > > > I visited Telstar ground station in Pleumeur-Bodou, France once. There > > is museum > > there now, called "Cite des Telecoms". They preserved original > > horn-like antenna > > used for Telstar communication and lots of original equipment. If I > > remember > > correctly there is even old hydrogen maser displayed. > > Place worth seeing. > > > > BR, > > Piotr, sp3ukk > > > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Magnus Danielson > > <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: > >> On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote: > >>> > >>> Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it. > >> > >> Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice > >> fold-outs on control-panels etc. > >> > >> They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna > >> setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit. > >> > >> Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like > >> that. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Magnus > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to > >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

LV

Lester Veenstra

Thu, Oct 7, 2010 11:31 PM

And I have sitting on my desk of the hand made (at Bell Labs) klystron local
oscillators used in the FM-FDM equipment at Andover

Lester B Veenstra MØYCM K1YCM
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-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Magnus Danielson
Sent: 08 October 2010 06:17
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver

On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote:

Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it.

Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice
fold-outs on control-panels etc.

They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna
setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit.

Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like that.

Cheers,
Magnus

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And I have sitting on my desk of the hand made (at Bell Labs) klystron local oscillators used in the FM-FDM equipment at Andover Lester B Veenstra MØYCM K1YCM lester@veenstras.com m0ycm@veenstras.com k1ycm@veenstras.com US Postal Address: PSC 45 Box 781 APO AE 09468 USA UK Postal Address: Dawn Cottage Norwood, Harrogate HG3 1SD, UK Telephones: Office: +44-(0)1423-846-385 Home: +44-(0)1943-880-963 Guam Cell: +1-671-929-8141 UK Cell: +44-(0)7716-298-224 US Cell: +1-240-425-7335 Jamaica: +1-876-352-7504 This e-mail and any documents attached hereto contain confidential or privileged information. The information is intended to be for use only by the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this e-mail or any documents attached hereto is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: 08 October 2010 06:17 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote: > Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it. Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice fold-outs on control-panels etc. They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit. Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like that. Cheers, Magnus _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

LV

Lester Veenstra

Thu, Oct 7, 2010 11:34 PM

And at Andover, Comsat took it all down and cut it up to save taxes rather
than save history.

Lester B Veenstra MØYCM K1YCM
lester@veenstras.com
m0ycm@veenstras.com
k1ycm@veenstras.com

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PSC 45 Box 781
APO AE 09468 USA

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-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Piotr Kolodziejczyk
Sent: 08 October 2010 07:32
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver

Could you tell me which book you have on mind ? I'd love to read the story.

I visited Telstar ground station in Pleumeur-Bodou, France once. There
is museum
there now, called "Cite des Telecoms". They preserved original
horn-like antenna
used for Telstar communication and lots of original equipment. If I remember
correctly there is even old hydrogen maser displayed.
Place worth seeing.

BR,
Piotr, sp3ukk

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Magnus Danielson
magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote:

On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote:

Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it.

Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice
fold-outs on control-panels etc.

They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna
setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit.

Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like

that.

Cheers,
Magnus

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And at Andover, Comsat took it all down and cut it up to save taxes rather than save history. Lester B Veenstra MØYCM K1YCM lester@veenstras.com m0ycm@veenstras.com k1ycm@veenstras.com US Postal Address: PSC 45 Box 781 APO AE 09468 USA UK Postal Address: Dawn Cottage Norwood, Harrogate HG3 1SD, UK Telephones: Office: +44-(0)1423-846-385 Home: +44-(0)1943-880-963 Guam Cell: +1-671-929-8141 UK Cell: +44-(0)7716-298-224 US Cell: +1-240-425-7335 Jamaica: +1-876-352-7504 This e-mail and any documents attached hereto contain confidential or privileged information. The information is intended to be for use only by the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this e-mail or any documents attached hereto is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Piotr Kolodziejczyk Sent: 08 October 2010 07:32 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver Could you tell me which book you have on mind ? I'd love to read the story. I visited Telstar ground station in Pleumeur-Bodou, France once. There is museum there now, called "Cite des Telecoms". They preserved original horn-like antenna used for Telstar communication and lots of original equipment. If I remember correctly there is even old hydrogen maser displayed. Place worth seeing. BR, Piotr, sp3ukk On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Magnus Danielson <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: > On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote: >> >> Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it. > > Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice > fold-outs on control-panels etc. > > They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna > setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit. > > Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like that. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

LV

Lester Veenstra

Thu, Oct 7, 2010 11:39 PM

No, Andover Maine.

Hogg horn (very low sidelobes) was built by Bell Labs for Andover Maine and
PB, France. The English, being English, had to design and build their own
antenna at Goonhilly. They got the circular polarity wrong so missed the
first linkup, while the French were in solid.

Lester B Veenstra MØYCM K1YCM
lester@veenstras.com
m0ycm@veenstras.com
k1ycm@veenstras.com

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APO AE 09468 USA

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-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of J. Forster
Sent: 08 October 2010 08:02
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver

There was / is? a ground station near Andover Massachusetts also. The
antenna was called a Hogg Horn.

-John

===============

Could you tell me which book you have on mind ? I'd love to read the
story.

I visited Telstar ground station in Pleumeur-Bodou, France once. There
is museum
there now, called "Cite des Telecoms". They preserved original
horn-like antenna
used for Telstar communication and lots of original equipment. If I
remember
correctly there is even old hydrogen maser displayed.
Place worth seeing.

BR,
Piotr, sp3ukk

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Magnus Danielson
magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote:

On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote:

Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it.

Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice
fold-outs on control-panels etc.

They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna
setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit.

Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like
that.

Cheers,
Magnus

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No, Andover Maine. Hogg horn (very low sidelobes) was built by Bell Labs for Andover Maine and PB, France. The English, being English, had to design and build their own antenna at Goonhilly. They got the circular polarity wrong so missed the first linkup, while the French were in solid. Lester B Veenstra MØYCM K1YCM lester@veenstras.com m0ycm@veenstras.com k1ycm@veenstras.com US Postal Address: PSC 45 Box 781 APO AE 09468 USA UK Postal Address: Dawn Cottage Norwood, Harrogate HG3 1SD, UK Telephones: Office: +44-(0)1423-846-385 Home: +44-(0)1943-880-963 Guam Cell: +1-671-929-8141 UK Cell: +44-(0)7716-298-224 US Cell: +1-240-425-7335 Jamaica: +1-876-352-7504 This e-mail and any documents attached hereto contain confidential or privileged information. The information is intended to be for use only by the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this e-mail or any documents attached hereto is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. Forster Sent: 08 October 2010 08:02 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver There was / is? a ground station near Andover Massachusetts also. The antenna was called a Hogg Horn. -John =============== > Could you tell me which book you have on mind ? I'd love to read the > story. > > I visited Telstar ground station in Pleumeur-Bodou, France once. There > is museum > there now, called "Cite des Telecoms". They preserved original > horn-like antenna > used for Telstar communication and lots of original equipment. If I > remember > correctly there is even old hydrogen maser displayed. > Place worth seeing. > > BR, > Piotr, sp3ukk > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Magnus Danielson > <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: >> On 10/07/10 17:09, J. Forster wrote: >>> >>> Telstar was a BIG DEAL! There was even a pop song about it. >> >> Reading the Bell labs books on the Telstar project is very nice. Nice >> fold-outs on control-panels etc. >> >> They did spent a lot of time to engineer the whole thing. Their antenna >> setups that would track the high-dynamic movement due to the low orbit. >> >> Amplifiers was rubin-maser cooled with liquid helium... and stuff like >> that. >> >> Cheers, >> Magnus >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

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