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Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7061 help request (eeprom?)

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FabioEb@quipo.it
Sun, Feb 26, 2012 10:28 PM

I also do not understand the refresh. Still not after this text, but
that is because I do know nothing about digital stuff. I was
thinking it as a sort of reset to factory calibration. But it writes
the RAM to a EEPROM. Does that mean that the battery not hold the
calibration I do in RAM when it
is switched of for a while ? That would explain some problems. Or is
it just in case the battery gets empty or  is replaced ? I did not
dare to try it because I was afraid that I removed firmware or other
things so my meter will not function.

Fred, as I understand and imagine the process should be this
(reading the 7061 manual):
when you calibrate the particular range you are storing the info
in ram, when you make refresh you store it in 2816 eeprom that
is electrically reprogrammable.
The battery is a nicad that I think is not suitable to store data
for long time (self discharge, low reliability), for this usually
instrument use lithium primary batteries.
The firmware should be stored in the 2 27C256 eproms that are
programmable (after cancellation under UV light) only in a
suitable programmer, so firmware should be safe.
The eeprom should not contain any important info, because I tried
to start the meter without it and it just functions the same.
Now my solartron is without battery, I tried to make a calibraiton
to the 10V range, it mantained the data until powered, after
it lose them and returned to default.
When I'll have a backup I'll try to make a refresh command and see
what happens.

I heard from other 7061 users it can get very hot. The current draw
is within specs. Without manual I do
not know the allowed ripple or where to measure witch
voltage, so I meaured on the filter caps for ripple and that did not
look strange. To be sure I checke the
caps and they were OK

What temperature does it reach?
I can measure the temperature rise in it if this can help
you.

Besides a voltnut I'm a component measurement freak.
I have a whole arsenal of component testers, from ...
build the new one in this old housing ( it is from a
beautifull tek 1S1 sample plugin)

Fred PA4TIM

Wow that' called testing ! :)
I read your blog when I searched info about solartron.
I see also that you have a keithley 2000, what do
you think about it?
I'm searching one used for my lab, I would prefer the
2015 but the 2000 and 2700 all can be good for me.

Fabio.

P.S.
I'm still trying to setup correctly the mail reply,
sorry for the misplaced replys.

Op 26 feb. 2012 om 17:15 heeft
Михаил <timka2k at yandex.ru>
(Mickle) het volgende geschreven:

REFRESH command description from the 7071 manual:

8.3.2 CALIBRATE, REFRESH
This command enables a refresh of the NVM, i.e. the present calibration
constants are written back into the NVM. The sequence of operation is as
follows:

  • Microprocessor checks both pages of the NVM.
  • First correct page is down-loaded to the RAM.
  • Microprocessor checks the RAM
  • RAM contents are written into both pages of the NVM.
  • Microprocessor checks both pages of the NVM.
    ...
  • One of the following messages will appear:
    REFRESH COMPLETE  - refresh has been successful and no faults have
    been found.
    REFRESH COMPLETE NVM PAGE 1 WAS FAULTY
  • refresh has been successful. Page 1 of the NVM was originally
    faulty but is now correct.
    REFRESH COMPLETE NVM PAGE 2 WAS FAULTY
  • refresh has been successful. Page 2 of the NVM was originally
    faulty but is now correct.
    REFRESH FAIL RAM COPY FAIL
  • refresh has been unsuccessful as the RAM copy is faulty.
    REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 1 IS FAULTY
  • refresh has been unsuccessful. Page 1 of the NVM is faulty.
    REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 2 IS FAULTY
  • refresh has been unsuccessful. Page 2 of the NVM is faulty.
    REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 1 & 2 ARE FAULTY
  • refresh has been unsuccessful. Both pages of the NVM are faulty.

I think 7061 have the same algorithm.

Mickle T.

Fqi> Hello, Mickle
Fqi> I reread the manual, but I'm not sure to understand it correctly,
Fqi> it seem to me that Refresh command writes the actual Calibration
Fqi> constants to EEPROM. I haven't tried yet to recalibrate it.
Fqi> Now I'm curious if this eeprom is corrupted.
Fqi> Since now I don't have all the necessary to calibrate it I don't
Fqi> want to try yet.

Fqi> Fabio.


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> I also do not understand the refresh. Still not after this text, but > that is because I do know nothing about digital stuff. I was > thinking it as a sort of reset to factory calibration. But it writes > the RAM to a EEPROM. Does that mean that the battery not hold the > calibration I do in RAM when it > is switched of for a while ? That would explain some problems. Or is > it just in case the battery gets empty or is replaced ? I did not > dare to try it because I was afraid that I removed firmware or other > things so my meter will not function. Fred, as I understand and imagine the process should be this (reading the 7061 manual): when you calibrate the particular range you are storing the info in ram, when you make refresh you store it in 2816 eeprom that is electrically reprogrammable. The battery is a nicad that I think is not suitable to store data for long time (self discharge, low reliability), for this usually instrument use lithium primary batteries. The firmware should be stored in the 2 27C256 eproms that are programmable (after cancellation under UV light) only in a suitable programmer, so firmware should be safe. The eeprom should not contain any important info, because I tried to start the meter without it and it just functions the same. Now my solartron is without battery, I tried to make a calibraiton to the 10V range, it mantained the data until powered, after it lose them and returned to default. When I'll have a backup I'll try to make a refresh command and see what happens. > I heard from other 7061 users it can get very hot. The current draw > is within specs. Without manual I do > not know the allowed ripple or where to measure witch > voltage, so I meaured on the filter caps for ripple and that did not > look strange. To be sure I checke the > caps and they were OK What temperature does it reach? I can measure the temperature rise in it if this can help you. > Besides a voltnut I'm a component measurement freak. > I have a whole arsenal of component testers, from ... > build the new one in this old housing ( it is from a > beautifull tek 1S1 sample plugin) > > Fred PA4TIM Wow that' called testing ! :) I read your blog when I searched info about solartron. I see also that you have a keithley 2000, what do you think about it? I'm searching one used for my lab, I would prefer the 2015 but the 2000 and 2700 all can be good for me. Fabio. P.S. I'm still trying to setup correctly the mail reply, sorry for the misplaced replys. Op 26 feb. 2012 om 17:15 heeft &#1052;&#1080;&#1093;&#1072;&#1080;&#1083; <timka2k at yandex.ru> (Mickle) het volgende geschreven: > REFRESH command description from the 7071 manual: > > 8.3.2 CALIBRATE, REFRESH > This command enables a refresh of the NVM, i.e. the present calibration > constants are written back into the NVM. The sequence of operation is as > follows: > * Microprocessor checks both pages of the NVM. > * First correct page is down-loaded to the RAM. > * Microprocessor checks the RAM > * RAM contents are written into both pages of the NVM. > * Microprocessor checks both pages of the NVM. > ... > * One of the following messages will appear: > REFRESH COMPLETE - refresh has been successful and no faults have > been found. > REFRESH COMPLETE NVM PAGE 1 WAS FAULTY > - refresh has been successful. Page 1 of the NVM was originally > faulty but is now correct. > REFRESH COMPLETE NVM PAGE 2 WAS FAULTY > - refresh has been successful. Page 2 of the NVM was originally > faulty but is now correct. > REFRESH FAIL RAM COPY FAIL > - refresh has been unsuccessful as the RAM copy is faulty. > REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 1 IS FAULTY > - refresh has been unsuccessful. Page 1 of the NVM is faulty. > REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 2 IS FAULTY > - refresh has been unsuccessful. Page 2 of the NVM is faulty. > REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 1 & 2 ARE FAULTY > - refresh has been unsuccessful. Both pages of the NVM are faulty. > > I think 7061 have the same algorithm. > > Mickle T. > > Fqi> Hello, Mickle > Fqi> I reread the manual, but I'm not sure to understand it correctly, > Fqi> it seem to me that Refresh command writes the actual Calibration > Fqi> constants to EEPROM. I haven't tried yet to recalibrate it. > Fqi> Now I'm curious if this eeprom is corrupted. > Fqi> Since now I don't have all the necessary to calibrate it I don't > Fqi> want to try yet. > > Fqi> Fabio. > > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts at febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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Fred Schneider
Sun, Feb 26, 2012 10:55 PM

Thanks, i will try the refresh.
After it got so hot, on a hot summer , around 30 degrees, that I thought someting got fire, i opened it and it smelled burned. It was on top of a calibrator and two cm under a wooden shelf. The wood was very hot too. The part that produced the heat was the transformer. The metal case next to it also gets to hot to touch.  I measured (after opening the cabinet a transformer temperature around 58 degrees Celcius. ( if I remember wel)
It has now nothing on top of it, i put some heatransfer paste on the cabinet and mounted a heatsink om it, right above the transformer. The cabinet has a shape inside that touches the transformer like it has the function to cool the transformer. An other voltnut told me the tin next to the transformer was to hot to toutch in his 7061 too.
So I' m curious about yours.

Oh, the heatproblem was before I had replaced the dead nicd ( only could get a nimh), i do not know the schmatic but I do not think a shorted nicad can draw exessive current, it's current  is probably low and resistor limmited. Now in winter it just gets hot, but stil to hot to my liking, altough the keithleys also get rather warm.

I like the 2000 very much. I like the 196 because the big digits and the 2000 because of the functions.

Fred PA4TIM

Op 26 feb. 2012 om 23:28 heeft FabioEb@quipo.it het volgende geschreven:

I also do not understand the refresh. Still not after this text, but that is because I do know nothing about digital stuff. I was thinking it as a sort of reset to factory calibration. But it writes the RAM to a EEPROM. Does that mean that the battery not hold the calibration I do in RAM when it
is switched of for a while ? That would explain some problems. Or is it just in case the battery gets empty or  is replaced ? I did not dare to try it because I was afraid that I removed firmware or other things so my meter will not function.

Fred, as I understand and imagine the process should be this
(reading the 7061 manual):
when you calibrate the particular range you are storing the info
in ram, when you make refresh you store it in 2816 eeprom that
is electrically reprogrammable.
The battery is a nicad that I think is not suitable to store data
for long time (self discharge, low reliability), for this usually
instrument use lithium primary batteries.
The firmware should be stored in the 2 27C256 eproms that are
programmable (after cancellation under UV light) only in a
suitable programmer, so firmware should be safe.
The eeprom should not contain any important info, because I tried
to start the meter without it and it just functions the same.
Now my solartron is without battery, I tried to make a calibraiton
to the 10V range, it mantained the data until powered, after
it lose them and returned to default.
When I'll have a backup I'll try to make a refresh command and see
what happens.

I heard from other 7061 users it can get very hot. The current draw is within specs. Without manual I do
not know the allowed ripple or where to measure witch
voltage, so I meaured on the filter caps for ripple and that did not look strange. To be sure I checke the
caps and they were OK

What temperature does it reach?
I can measure the temperature rise in it if this can help
you.

Besides a voltnut I'm a component measurement freak.
I have a whole arsenal of component testers, from ...
build the new one in this old housing ( it is from a
beautifull tek 1S1 sample plugin)

Fred PA4TIM

Wow that' called testing ! :)
I read your blog when I searched info about solartron.
I see also that you have a keithley 2000, what do
you think about it?
I'm searching one used for my lab, I would prefer the
2015 but the 2000 and 2700 all can be good for me.

Fabio.

P.S.
I'm still trying to setup correctly the mail reply,
sorry for the misplaced replys.

Op 26 feb. 2012 om 17:15 heeft Михаил <timka2k at yandex.ru> (Mickle) het volgende geschreven:

REFRESH command description from the 7071 manual:

8.3.2 CALIBRATE, REFRESH
This command enables a refresh of the NVM, i.e. the present calibration
constants are written back into the NVM. The sequence of operation is as
follows:

  • Microprocessor checks both pages of the NVM.
  • First correct page is down-loaded to the RAM.
  • Microprocessor checks the RAM
  • RAM contents are written into both pages of the NVM.
  • Microprocessor checks both pages of the NVM.
    ...
  • One of the following messages will appear:
    REFRESH COMPLETE  - refresh has been successful and no faults have
    been found.
    REFRESH COMPLETE NVM PAGE 1 WAS FAULTY
  • refresh has been successful. Page 1 of the NVM was originally faulty but is now correct.
    REFRESH COMPLETE NVM PAGE 2 WAS FAULTY
  • refresh has been successful. Page 2 of the NVM was originally faulty but is now correct.
    REFRESH FAIL RAM COPY FAIL
  • refresh has been unsuccessful as the RAM copy is faulty.
    REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 1 IS FAULTY
  • refresh has been unsuccessful. Page 1 of the NVM is faulty.
    REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 2 IS FAULTY
  • refresh has been unsuccessful. Page 2 of the NVM is faulty.
    REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 1 & 2 ARE FAULTY
  • refresh has been unsuccessful. Both pages of the NVM are faulty.

I think 7061 have the same algorithm.

Mickle T.

Fqi> Hello, Mickle
Fqi> I reread the manual, but I'm not sure to understand it correctly,
Fqi> it seem to me that Refresh command writes the actual Calibration
Fqi> constants to EEPROM. I haven't tried yet to recalibrate it.
Fqi> Now I'm curious if this eeprom is corrupted.
Fqi> Since now I don't have all the necessary to calibrate it I don't
Fqi> want to try yet.

Fqi> Fabio.


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Thanks, i will try the refresh. After it got so hot, on a hot summer , around 30 degrees, that I thought someting got fire, i opened it and it smelled burned. It was on top of a calibrator and two cm under a wooden shelf. The wood was very hot too. The part that produced the heat was the transformer. The metal case next to it also gets to hot to touch. I measured (after opening the cabinet a transformer temperature around 58 degrees Celcius. ( if I remember wel) It has now nothing on top of it, i put some heatransfer paste on the cabinet and mounted a heatsink om it, right above the transformer. The cabinet has a shape inside that touches the transformer like it has the function to cool the transformer. An other voltnut told me the tin next to the transformer was to hot to toutch in his 7061 too. So I' m curious about yours. Oh, the heatproblem was before I had replaced the dead nicd ( only could get a nimh), i do not know the schmatic but I do not think a shorted nicad can draw exessive current, it's current is probably low and resistor limmited. Now in winter it just gets hot, but stil to hot to my liking, altough the keithleys also get rather warm. I like the 2000 very much. I like the 196 because the big digits and the 2000 because of the functions. Fred PA4TIM Op 26 feb. 2012 om 23:28 heeft FabioEb@quipo.it het volgende geschreven: >> I also do not understand the refresh. Still not after this text, but that is because I do know nothing about digital stuff. I was thinking it as a sort of reset to factory calibration. But it writes the RAM to a EEPROM. Does that mean that the battery not hold the calibration I do in RAM when it >> is switched of for a while ? That would explain some problems. Or is it just in case the battery gets empty or is replaced ? I did not dare to try it because I was afraid that I removed firmware or other things so my meter will not function. > > Fred, as I understand and imagine the process should be this > (reading the 7061 manual): > when you calibrate the particular range you are storing the info > in ram, when you make refresh you store it in 2816 eeprom that > is electrically reprogrammable. > The battery is a nicad that I think is not suitable to store data > for long time (self discharge, low reliability), for this usually > instrument use lithium primary batteries. > The firmware should be stored in the 2 27C256 eproms that are > programmable (after cancellation under UV light) only in a > suitable programmer, so firmware should be safe. > The eeprom should not contain any important info, because I tried > to start the meter without it and it just functions the same. > Now my solartron is without battery, I tried to make a calibraiton > to the 10V range, it mantained the data until powered, after > it lose them and returned to default. > When I'll have a backup I'll try to make a refresh command and see > what happens. > >> I heard from other 7061 users it can get very hot. The current draw is within specs. Without manual I do >> not know the allowed ripple or where to measure witch >> voltage, so I meaured on the filter caps for ripple and that did not look strange. To be sure I checke the >> caps and they were OK > > What temperature does it reach? > I can measure the temperature rise in it if this can help > you. > >> Besides a voltnut I'm a component measurement freak. >> I have a whole arsenal of component testers, from ... >> build the new one in this old housing ( it is from a >> beautifull tek 1S1 sample plugin) >> >> Fred PA4TIM > > Wow that' called testing ! :) > I read your blog when I searched info about solartron. > I see also that you have a keithley 2000, what do > you think about it? > I'm searching one used for my lab, I would prefer the > 2015 but the 2000 and 2700 all can be good for me. > > Fabio. > > P.S. > I'm still trying to setup correctly the mail reply, > sorry for the misplaced replys. > > Op 26 feb. 2012 om 17:15 heeft &#1052;&#1080;&#1093;&#1072;&#1080;&#1083; <timka2k at yandex.ru> (Mickle) het volgende geschreven: > >> REFRESH command description from the 7071 manual: >> >> 8.3.2 CALIBRATE, REFRESH >> This command enables a refresh of the NVM, i.e. the present calibration >> constants are written back into the NVM. The sequence of operation is as >> follows: >> * Microprocessor checks both pages of the NVM. >> * First correct page is down-loaded to the RAM. >> * Microprocessor checks the RAM >> * RAM contents are written into both pages of the NVM. >> * Microprocessor checks both pages of the NVM. >> ... >> * One of the following messages will appear: >> REFRESH COMPLETE - refresh has been successful and no faults have >> been found. >> REFRESH COMPLETE NVM PAGE 1 WAS FAULTY >> - refresh has been successful. Page 1 of the NVM was originally faulty but is now correct. >> REFRESH COMPLETE NVM PAGE 2 WAS FAULTY >> - refresh has been successful. Page 2 of the NVM was originally faulty but is now correct. >> REFRESH FAIL RAM COPY FAIL >> - refresh has been unsuccessful as the RAM copy is faulty. >> REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 1 IS FAULTY >> - refresh has been unsuccessful. Page 1 of the NVM is faulty. >> REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 2 IS FAULTY >> - refresh has been unsuccessful. Page 2 of the NVM is faulty. >> REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 1 & 2 ARE FAULTY >> - refresh has been unsuccessful. Both pages of the NVM are faulty. >> >> I think 7061 have the same algorithm. >> >> Mickle T. >> >> Fqi> Hello, Mickle >> Fqi> I reread the manual, but I'm not sure to understand it correctly, >> Fqi> it seem to me that Refresh command writes the actual Calibration >> Fqi> constants to EEPROM. I haven't tried yet to recalibrate it. >> Fqi> Now I'm curious if this eeprom is corrupted. >> Fqi> Since now I don't have all the necessary to calibrate it I don't >> Fqi> want to try yet. >> >> Fqi> Fabio. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts at febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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fabioeb@quipo.it
Mon, Feb 27, 2012 9:13 PM

Fred  the battery should be charged by a 470ohm resistor R501
from 5V so short circuit current should be only 10mA.
This evening i took some temperature values,
they are taken in few minutes with a TC so the values
can be wrong by some 1-2 degrees relative.
The solartron was powered from more than 24 hours,

  • ambient temperature 8°C
  • for internal air the thermocouple was put in the air near the transformer,
    the cover was put on and left there for some hours
  • Internal air 33°C
  • the following taken after opening the top cover in few minutes
  • top of transformer 50°C
  • D501 80°C
  • tinned can 38°C measured on the left screw
  • following the regulators mounted with heatsink
  • IC503 49°C
  • IC502 42°C
  • IC504 38°C
  • IC501 38°C

So it really runs a little hot, the cold air was misleading
for me, in particular the tranformer and bridge rectifier are
hot.

Fabio.

Fred Schneider pa4tim@gmail.com ha scritto:

Thanks, i will try the refresh.
After it got so hot, on a hot summer , around 30 degrees, that I
thought someting got fire, i opened it and it smelled burned. It was
on top of a calibrator and two cm under a wooden shelf. The wood was
very hot too. The part that produced the heat was the transformer.
The metal case next to it also gets to hot to touch.  I measured
(after opening the cabinet a transformer temperature around 58
degrees Celcius. ( if I remember wel)
It has now nothing on top of it, i put some heatransfer paste on the
cabinet and mounted a heatsink om it, right above the transformer.
The cabinet has a shape inside that touches the transformer like it
has the function to cool the transformer. An other voltnut told me
the tin next to the transformer was to hot to toutch in his 7061 too.
So I' m curious about yours.

Oh, the heatproblem was before I had replaced the dead nicd ( only
could get a nimh), i do not know the schmatic but I do not think a
shorted nicad can draw exessive current, it's current  is probably
low and resistor limmited. Now in winter it just gets hot, but stil
to hot to my liking, altough the keithleys also get rather warm.

I like the 2000 very much. I like the 196 because the big digits and
the 2000 because of the functions.

Fred PA4TIM

Op 26 feb. 2012 om 23:28 heeft FabioEb@quipo.it het volgende geschreven:

I also do not understand the refresh. Still not after this text,
but that is because I do know nothing about digital stuff. I was
thinking it as a sort of reset to factory calibration. But it
writes the RAM to a EEPROM. Does that mean that the battery not
hold the calibration I do in RAM when it
is switched of for a while ? That would explain some problems. Or
is it just in case the battery gets empty or  is replaced ? I did
not dare to try it because I was afraid that I removed firmware or
other things so my meter will not function.

Fred, as I understand and imagine the process should be this
(reading the 7061 manual):
when you calibrate the particular range you are storing the info
in ram, when you make refresh you store it in 2816 eeprom that
is electrically reprogrammable.
The battery is a nicad that I think is not suitable to store data
for long time (self discharge, low reliability), for this usually
instrument use lithium primary batteries.
The firmware should be stored in the 2 27C256 eproms that are
programmable (after cancellation under UV light) only in a
suitable programmer, so firmware should be safe.
The eeprom should not contain any important info, because I tried
to start the meter without it and it just functions the same.
Now my solartron is without battery, I tried to make a calibraiton
to the 10V range, it mantained the data until powered, after
it lose them and returned to default.
When I'll have a backup I'll try to make a refresh command and see
what happens.

I heard from other 7061 users it can get very hot. The current
draw is within specs. Without manual I do
not know the allowed ripple or where to measure witch
voltage, so I meaured on the filter caps for ripple and that did
not look strange. To be sure I checke the
caps and they were OK

What temperature does it reach?
I can measure the temperature rise in it if this can help
you.

Besides a voltnut I'm a component measurement freak.
I have a whole arsenal of component testers, from ...
build the new one in this old housing ( it is from a
beautifull tek 1S1 sample plugin)

Fred PA4TIM

Wow that' called testing ! :)
I read your blog when I searched info about solartron.
I see also that you have a keithley 2000, what do
you think about it?
I'm searching one used for my lab, I would prefer the
2015 but the 2000 and 2700 all can be good for me.

Fabio.

P.S.
I'm still trying to setup correctly the mail reply,
sorry for the misplaced replys.

Op 26 feb. 2012 om 17:15 heeft
Михаил <timka2k at yandex.ru>
(Mickle) het volgende geschreven:

REFRESH command description from the 7071 manual:

8.3.2 CALIBRATE, REFRESH
This command enables a refresh of the NVM, i.e. the present calibration
constants are written back into the NVM. The sequence of operation is as
follows:

  • Microprocessor checks both pages of the NVM.
  • First correct page is down-loaded to the RAM.
  • Microprocessor checks the RAM
  • RAM contents are written into both pages of the NVM.
  • Microprocessor checks both pages of the NVM.
    ...
  • One of the following messages will appear:
    REFRESH COMPLETE  - refresh has been successful and no faults have
    been found.
    REFRESH COMPLETE NVM PAGE 1 WAS FAULTY
  • refresh has been successful. Page 1 of the NVM was originally
    faulty but is now correct.
    REFRESH COMPLETE NVM PAGE 2 WAS FAULTY
  • refresh has been successful. Page 2 of the NVM was originally
    faulty but is now correct.
    REFRESH FAIL RAM COPY FAIL
  • refresh has been unsuccessful as the RAM copy is faulty.
    REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 1 IS FAULTY
  • refresh has been unsuccessful. Page 1 of the NVM is faulty.
    REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 2 IS FAULTY
  • refresh has been unsuccessful. Page 2 of the NVM is faulty.
    REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 1 & 2 ARE FAULTY
  • refresh has been unsuccessful. Both pages of the NVM are faulty.

I think 7061 have the same algorithm.

Mickle T.

Fqi> Hello, Mickle
Fqi> I reread the manual, but I'm not sure to understand it correctly,
Fqi> it seem to me that Refresh command writes the actual Calibration
Fqi> constants to EEPROM. I haven't tried yet to recalibrate it.
Fqi> Now I'm curious if this eeprom is corrupted.
Fqi> Since now I don't have all the necessary to calibrate it I don't
Fqi> want to try yet.

Fqi> Fabio.


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Fred the battery should be charged by a 470ohm resistor R501 from 5V so short circuit current should be only 10mA. This evening i took some temperature values, they are taken in few minutes with a TC so the values can be wrong by some 1-2 degrees relative. The solartron was powered from more than 24 hours, - ambient temperature 8°C - for internal air the thermocouple was put in the air near the transformer, the cover was put on and left there for some hours - Internal air 33°C - the following taken after opening the top cover in few minutes - top of transformer 50°C - D501 80°C - tinned can 38°C measured on the left screw - following the regulators mounted with heatsink - IC503 49°C - IC502 42°C - IC504 38°C - IC501 38°C So it really runs a little hot, the cold air was misleading for me, in particular the tranformer and bridge rectifier are hot. Fabio. Fred Schneider <pa4tim@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Thanks, i will try the refresh. > After it got so hot, on a hot summer , around 30 degrees, that I > thought someting got fire, i opened it and it smelled burned. It was > on top of a calibrator and two cm under a wooden shelf. The wood was > very hot too. The part that produced the heat was the transformer. > The metal case next to it also gets to hot to touch. I measured > (after opening the cabinet a transformer temperature around 58 > degrees Celcius. ( if I remember wel) > It has now nothing on top of it, i put some heatransfer paste on the > cabinet and mounted a heatsink om it, right above the transformer. > The cabinet has a shape inside that touches the transformer like it > has the function to cool the transformer. An other voltnut told me > the tin next to the transformer was to hot to toutch in his 7061 too. > So I' m curious about yours. > > Oh, the heatproblem was before I had replaced the dead nicd ( only > could get a nimh), i do not know the schmatic but I do not think a > shorted nicad can draw exessive current, it's current is probably > low and resistor limmited. Now in winter it just gets hot, but stil > to hot to my liking, altough the keithleys also get rather warm. > > I like the 2000 very much. I like the 196 because the big digits and > the 2000 because of the functions. > > Fred PA4TIM > > Op 26 feb. 2012 om 23:28 heeft FabioEb@quipo.it het volgende geschreven: > >>> I also do not understand the refresh. Still not after this text, >>> but that is because I do know nothing about digital stuff. I was >>> thinking it as a sort of reset to factory calibration. But it >>> writes the RAM to a EEPROM. Does that mean that the battery not >>> hold the calibration I do in RAM when it >>> is switched of for a while ? That would explain some problems. Or >>> is it just in case the battery gets empty or is replaced ? I did >>> not dare to try it because I was afraid that I removed firmware or >>> other things so my meter will not function. >> >> Fred, as I understand and imagine the process should be this >> (reading the 7061 manual): >> when you calibrate the particular range you are storing the info >> in ram, when you make refresh you store it in 2816 eeprom that >> is electrically reprogrammable. >> The battery is a nicad that I think is not suitable to store data >> for long time (self discharge, low reliability), for this usually >> instrument use lithium primary batteries. >> The firmware should be stored in the 2 27C256 eproms that are >> programmable (after cancellation under UV light) only in a >> suitable programmer, so firmware should be safe. >> The eeprom should not contain any important info, because I tried >> to start the meter without it and it just functions the same. >> Now my solartron is without battery, I tried to make a calibraiton >> to the 10V range, it mantained the data until powered, after >> it lose them and returned to default. >> When I'll have a backup I'll try to make a refresh command and see >> what happens. >> >>> I heard from other 7061 users it can get very hot. The current >>> draw is within specs. Without manual I do >>> not know the allowed ripple or where to measure witch >>> voltage, so I meaured on the filter caps for ripple and that did >>> not look strange. To be sure I checke the >>> caps and they were OK >> >> What temperature does it reach? >> I can measure the temperature rise in it if this can help >> you. >> >>> Besides a voltnut I'm a component measurement freak. >>> I have a whole arsenal of component testers, from ... >>> build the new one in this old housing ( it is from a >>> beautifull tek 1S1 sample plugin) >>> >>> Fred PA4TIM >> >> Wow that' called testing ! :) >> I read your blog when I searched info about solartron. >> I see also that you have a keithley 2000, what do >> you think about it? >> I'm searching one used for my lab, I would prefer the >> 2015 but the 2000 and 2700 all can be good for me. >> >> Fabio. >> >> P.S. >> I'm still trying to setup correctly the mail reply, >> sorry for the misplaced replys. >> >> Op 26 feb. 2012 om 17:15 heeft >> &#1052;&#1080;&#1093;&#1072;&#1080;&#1083; <timka2k at yandex.ru> >> (Mickle) het volgende geschreven: >> >>> REFRESH command description from the 7071 manual: >>> >>> 8.3.2 CALIBRATE, REFRESH >>> This command enables a refresh of the NVM, i.e. the present calibration >>> constants are written back into the NVM. The sequence of operation is as >>> follows: >>> * Microprocessor checks both pages of the NVM. >>> * First correct page is down-loaded to the RAM. >>> * Microprocessor checks the RAM >>> * RAM contents are written into both pages of the NVM. >>> * Microprocessor checks both pages of the NVM. >>> ... >>> * One of the following messages will appear: >>> REFRESH COMPLETE - refresh has been successful and no faults have >>> been found. >>> REFRESH COMPLETE NVM PAGE 1 WAS FAULTY >>> - refresh has been successful. Page 1 of the NVM was originally >>> faulty but is now correct. >>> REFRESH COMPLETE NVM PAGE 2 WAS FAULTY >>> - refresh has been successful. Page 2 of the NVM was originally >>> faulty but is now correct. >>> REFRESH FAIL RAM COPY FAIL >>> - refresh has been unsuccessful as the RAM copy is faulty. >>> REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 1 IS FAULTY >>> - refresh has been unsuccessful. Page 1 of the NVM is faulty. >>> REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 2 IS FAULTY >>> - refresh has been unsuccessful. Page 2 of the NVM is faulty. >>> REFRESH FAIL NVM PAGE 1 & 2 ARE FAULTY >>> - refresh has been unsuccessful. Both pages of the NVM are faulty. >>> >>> I think 7061 have the same algorithm. >>> >>> Mickle T. >>> >>> Fqi> Hello, Mickle >>> Fqi> I reread the manual, but I'm not sure to understand it correctly, >>> Fqi> it seem to me that Refresh command writes the actual Calibration >>> Fqi> constants to EEPROM. I haven't tried yet to recalibrate it. >>> Fqi> Now I'm curious if this eeprom is corrupted. >>> Fqi> Since now I don't have all the necessary to calibrate it I don't >>> Fqi> want to try yet. >>> >>> Fqi> Fabio. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts at febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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Fabio Eboli
Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:29 PM

Hello everybody,
I've some questions for who has the solartron 7061 and/or can help:
1- behaviour: is it normal to have measurement "noise" on last digit?
measuring a lithium battery and a geller labs voltage source i get
the reading jumping usually +-3 +-4 counts on last digit, less frequently
6-7 digits or 1-2 digits. Range 10V, 7 digits, filter on.
2- ROM: I tried download ROMs content. I don't trust the (willem) programmer
I used, since it's from a friend of mine and I don't have experience with it.
I'd like to verify the ROMs content I download if are correct.
Now on the labels there is the model number and a 4 alphanumeric code, is this
checksum? What kind of algorithm should it be?
3- Jumper config: I noted a strange thing, that maybe is non significant,
on the side of IC804 rom on analogue board there are soler-jumpers SP1
and SP2 marked
SP1:2716 SP2:2732/64, the instrument mounts 2764 roms and the corresponding
jumper SP2 is full of solder, but not jumped correctly, SP1 is not soldered.
Should this jumper be solder-closed?

Thanks,
Fabio.


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Hello everybody, I've some questions for who has the solartron 7061 and/or can help: 1- behaviour: is it normal to have measurement "noise" on last digit? measuring a lithium battery and a geller labs voltage source i get the reading jumping usually +-3 +-4 counts on last digit, less frequently 6-7 digits or 1-2 digits. Range 10V, 7 digits, filter on. 2- ROM: I tried download ROMs content. I don't trust the (willem) programmer I used, since it's from a friend of mine and I don't have experience with it. I'd like to verify the ROMs content I download if are correct. Now on the labels there is the model number and a 4 alphanumeric code, is this checksum? What kind of algorithm should it be? 3- Jumper config: I noted a strange thing, that maybe is non significant, on the side of IC804 rom on analogue board there are soler-jumpers SP1 and SP2 marked SP1:2716 SP2:2732/64, the instrument mounts 2764 roms and the corresponding jumper SP2 is full of solder, but not jumped correctly, SP1 is not soldered. Should this jumper be solder-closed? Thanks, Fabio. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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David C. Partridge
Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:05 PM

SP1:2716 SP2:2732/64, the instrument mounts 2764 roms and the
corresponding jumper SP2 is full of solder,
but not jumped correctly, SP1 is not soldered.

SP2 should be jumpered with solder for 2764 ROMS, and SP1 should be open circuit.

So that is correct.

Dave
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Sent: 03 March 2012 13:29
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7061 ROM and behaviour questions (was help request (eeprom?))

Hello everybody,
I've some questions for who has the solartron 7061 and/or can help:
1- behaviour: is it normal to have measurement "noise" on last digit?
measuring a lithium battery and a geller labs voltage source i get the reading jumping usually +-3 +-4 counts on last digit, less frequently
6-7 digits or 1-2 digits. Range 10V, 7 digits, filter on.
2- ROM: I tried download ROMs content. I don't trust the (willem) programmer I used, since it's from a friend of mine and I don't have experience with it.
I'd like to verify the ROMs content I download if are correct.
Now on the labels there is the model number and a 4 alphanumeric code, is this checksum? What kind of algorithm should it be?
3- Jumper config: I noted a strange thing, that maybe is non significant, on the side of IC804 rom on analogue board there are soler-jumpers SP1 and SP2 marked
SP1:2716 SP2:2732/64, the instrument mounts 2764 roms and the corresponding jumper SP2 is full of solder, but not jumped correctly, SP1 is not soldered.
Should this jumper be solder-closed?

Thanks,
Fabio.


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>SP1:2716 SP2:2732/64, the instrument mounts 2764 roms and the >corresponding jumper SP2 is full of solder, >but not jumped correctly, SP1 is not soldered. SP2 should be jumpered with solder for 2764 ROMS, and SP1 should be open circuit. So that is correct. Dave -----Original Message----- From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Fabio Eboli Sent: 03 March 2012 13:29 To: volt-nuts@febo.com Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7061 ROM and behaviour questions (was help request (eeprom?)) Hello everybody, I've some questions for who has the solartron 7061 and/or can help: 1- behaviour: is it normal to have measurement "noise" on last digit? measuring a lithium battery and a geller labs voltage source i get the reading jumping usually +-3 +-4 counts on last digit, less frequently 6-7 digits or 1-2 digits. Range 10V, 7 digits, filter on. 2- ROM: I tried download ROMs content. I don't trust the (willem) programmer I used, since it's from a friend of mine and I don't have experience with it. I'd like to verify the ROMs content I download if are correct. Now on the labels there is the model number and a 4 alphanumeric code, is this checksum? What kind of algorithm should it be? 3- Jumper config: I noted a strange thing, that maybe is non significant, on the side of IC804 rom on analogue board there are soler-jumpers SP1 and SP2 marked SP1:2716 SP2:2732/64, the instrument mounts 2764 roms and the corresponding jumper SP2 is full of solder, but not jumped correctly, SP1 is not soldered. Should this jumper be solder-closed? Thanks, Fabio. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. _______________________________________________ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Fabio Eboli
Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:17 PM

Thank you Dave,
I should explain better: SP1 is opened and
not solder-wetted, so it's fine, SP2 is solder-wetted,
but not jumpered, so it's setting should be wrong.
Do you know also what can be the conseguence of this unsoldered
jumper (I don't hae the schematics...)?

Fabio.

"David C. Partridge" david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk ha scritto:

SP1:2716 SP2:2732/64, the instrument mounts 2764 roms and the
corresponding jumper SP2 is full of solder,
but not jumped correctly, SP1 is not soldered.

SP2 should be jumpered with solder for 2764 ROMS, and SP1 should be
open circuit.

So that is correct.

Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com]
On Behalf Of Fabio Eboli
Sent: 03 March 2012 13:29
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7061 ROM and behaviour questions (was
help request (eeprom?))

Hello everybody,
I've some questions for who has the solartron 7061 and/or can help:
1- behaviour: is it normal to have measurement "noise" on last digit?
measuring a lithium battery and a geller labs voltage source i get
the reading jumping usually +-3 +-4 counts on last digit, less
frequently
6-7 digits or 1-2 digits. Range 10V, 7 digits, filter on.
2- ROM: I tried download ROMs content. I don't trust the (willem)
programmer I used, since it's from a friend of mine and I don't have
experience with it.
I'd like to verify the ROMs content I download if are correct.
Now on the labels there is the model number and a 4 alphanumeric
code, is this checksum? What kind of algorithm should it be?
3- Jumper config: I noted a strange thing, that maybe is non
significant, on the side of IC804 rom on analogue board there are
soler-jumpers SP1 and SP2 marked
SP1:2716 SP2:2732/64, the instrument mounts 2764 roms and the
corresponding jumper SP2 is full of solder, but not jumped
correctly, SP1 is not soldered.
Should this jumper be solder-closed?

Thanks,
Fabio.


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Thank you Dave, I should explain better: SP1 is opened and not solder-wetted, so it's fine, SP2 is solder-wetted, but not jumpered, so it's setting should be wrong. Do you know also what can be the conseguence of this unsoldered jumper (I don't hae the schematics...)? Fabio. "David C. Partridge" <david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> ha scritto: >> SP1:2716 SP2:2732/64, the instrument mounts 2764 roms and the >> corresponding jumper SP2 is full of solder, >> but not jumped correctly, SP1 is not soldered. > > SP2 should be jumpered with solder for 2764 ROMS, and SP1 should be > open circuit. > > So that is correct. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] > On Behalf Of Fabio Eboli > Sent: 03 March 2012 13:29 > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7061 ROM and behaviour questions (was > help request (eeprom?)) > > Hello everybody, > I've some questions for who has the solartron 7061 and/or can help: > 1- behaviour: is it normal to have measurement "noise" on last digit? > measuring a lithium battery and a geller labs voltage source i get > the reading jumping usually +-3 +-4 counts on last digit, less > frequently > 6-7 digits or 1-2 digits. Range 10V, 7 digits, filter on. > 2- ROM: I tried download ROMs content. I don't trust the (willem) > programmer I used, since it's from a friend of mine and I don't have > experience with it. > I'd like to verify the ROMs content I download if are correct. > Now on the labels there is the model number and a 4 alphanumeric > code, is this checksum? What kind of algorithm should it be? > 3- Jumper config: I noted a strange thing, that maybe is non > significant, on the side of IC804 rom on analogue board there are > soler-jumpers SP1 and SP2 marked > SP1:2716 SP2:2732/64, the instrument mounts 2764 roms and the > corresponding jumper SP2 is full of solder, but not jumped > correctly, SP1 is not soldered. > Should this jumper be solder-closed? > > Thanks, > Fabio. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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Fabio Eboli
Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:45 PM

Little update: tried shorting SP2 jumper but the meter
stops reading DC volts, like if the input is disconnected,
no more tests on this, I disconnected the jumper like as before...
strange ?

Fabio.

"David C. Partridge" david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk ha scritto:

SP1:2716 SP2:2732/64, the instrument mounts 2764 roms and the
corresponding jumper SP2 is full of solder,
but not jumped correctly, SP1 is not soldered.

SP2 should be jumpered with solder for 2764 ROMS, and SP1 should be
open circuit.

So that is correct.

Dave
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On Behalf Of Fabio Eboli
Sent: 03 March 2012 13:29
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7061 ROM and behaviour questions (was
help request (eeprom?))

Hello everybody,
I've some questions for who has the solartron 7061 and/or can help:
1- behaviour: is it normal to have measurement "noise" on last digit?
measuring a lithium battery and a geller labs voltage source i get
the reading jumping usually +-3 +-4 counts on last digit, less
frequently
6-7 digits or 1-2 digits. Range 10V, 7 digits, filter on.
2- ROM: I tried download ROMs content. I don't trust the (willem)
programmer I used, since it's from a friend of mine and I don't have
experience with it.
I'd like to verify the ROMs content I download if are correct.
Now on the labels there is the model number and a 4 alphanumeric
code, is this checksum? What kind of algorithm should it be?
3- Jumper config: I noted a strange thing, that maybe is non
significant, on the side of IC804 rom on analogue board there are
soler-jumpers SP1 and SP2 marked
SP1:2716 SP2:2732/64, the instrument mounts 2764 roms and the
corresponding jumper SP2 is full of solder, but not jumped
correctly, SP1 is not soldered.
Should this jumper be solder-closed?

Thanks,
Fabio.


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Little update: tried shorting SP2 jumper but the meter stops reading DC volts, like if the input is disconnected, no more tests on this, I disconnected the jumper like as before... strange ? Fabio. "David C. Partridge" <david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> ha scritto: >> SP1:2716 SP2:2732/64, the instrument mounts 2764 roms and the >> corresponding jumper SP2 is full of solder, >> but not jumped correctly, SP1 is not soldered. > > SP2 should be jumpered with solder for 2764 ROMS, and SP1 should be > open circuit. > > So that is correct. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] > On Behalf Of Fabio Eboli > Sent: 03 March 2012 13:29 > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7061 ROM and behaviour questions (was > help request (eeprom?)) > > Hello everybody, > I've some questions for who has the solartron 7061 and/or can help: > 1- behaviour: is it normal to have measurement "noise" on last digit? > measuring a lithium battery and a geller labs voltage source i get > the reading jumping usually +-3 +-4 counts on last digit, less > frequently > 6-7 digits or 1-2 digits. Range 10V, 7 digits, filter on. > 2- ROM: I tried download ROMs content. I don't trust the (willem) > programmer I used, since it's from a friend of mine and I don't have > experience with it. > I'd like to verify the ROMs content I download if are correct. > Now on the labels there is the model number and a 4 alphanumeric > code, is this checksum? What kind of algorithm should it be? > 3- Jumper config: I noted a strange thing, that maybe is non > significant, on the side of IC804 rom on analogue board there are > soler-jumpers SP1 and SP2 marked > SP1:2716 SP2:2732/64, the instrument mounts 2764 roms and the > corresponding jumper SP2 is full of solder, but not jumped > correctly, SP1 is not soldered. > Should this jumper be solder-closed? > > Thanks, > Fabio. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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David C. Partridge
Sat, Mar 3, 2012 6:21 PM

http://www.ko4bb.com/manuals/index.php will find you the manual

Regards,
David Partridge
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From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Fabio Eboli
Sent: 03 March 2012 14:46
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7061 ROM and behaviour questions (was help request (eeprom?))

Little update: tried shorting SP2 jumper but the meter stops reading DC volts, like if the input is disconnected, no more tests on this, I disconnected the jumper like as before...
strange ?

Fabio.

<http://www.ko4bb.com/manuals/index.php> will find you the manual Regards, David Partridge -----Original Message----- From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Fabio Eboli Sent: 03 March 2012 14:46 To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7061 ROM and behaviour questions (was help request (eeprom?)) Little update: tried shorting SP2 jumper but the meter stops reading DC volts, like if the input is disconnected, no more tests on this, I disconnected the jumper like as before... strange ? Fabio.
Михаил
Sat, Mar 3, 2012 6:26 PM

But this is the 7061 Operating Manual only, not Service Manual.

Mickle T.

Saturday, March 3, 2012, 10:21:39 PM, you wrote:
DCP> http://www.ko4bb.com/manuals/index.php will find you the manual

DCP> Regards,
DCP> David Partridge

But this is the 7061 Operating Manual only, not Service Manual. Mickle T. Saturday, March 3, 2012, 10:21:39 PM, you wrote: DCP> <http://www.ko4bb.com/manuals/index.php> will find you the manual DCP> Regards, DCP> David Partridge
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David C. Partridge
Sat, Mar 3, 2012 6:29 PM

My apologies that was the User Manual.  The only place I know that has the Maintenance Manual is Telford Electronics in the UK (they sell photocopies).

Dave
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Sent: 03 March 2012 18:22
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7061 ROM and behaviour questions (washelp request (eeprom?))

http://www.ko4bb.com/manuals/index.php will find you the manual

Regards,
David Partridge
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Sent: 03 March 2012 14:46
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7061 ROM and behaviour questions (was help request (eeprom?))

Little update: tried shorting SP2 jumper but the meter stops reading DC volts, like if the input is disconnected, no more tests on this, I disconnected the jumper like as before...
strange ?

Fabio.


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My apologies that was the User Manual. The only place I know that has the Maintenance Manual is Telford Electronics in the UK (they sell photocopies). Dave -----Original Message----- From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of David C. Partridge Sent: 03 March 2012 18:22 To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement' Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7061 ROM and behaviour questions (washelp request (eeprom?)) <http://www.ko4bb.com/manuals/index.php> will find you the manual Regards, David Partridge -----Original Message----- From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Fabio Eboli Sent: 03 March 2012 14:46 To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7061 ROM and behaviour questions (was help request (eeprom?)) Little update: tried shorting SP2 jumper but the meter stops reading DC volts, like if the input is disconnected, no more tests on this, I disconnected the jumper like as before... strange ? Fabio. _______________________________________________ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.